The facts do not justify the fear

[HedonistForever]

Maybe the only time you will ever hear me quote and agree with the Governor of New York.


Listening to Cuomo give a press conference where he is speaking the way we would like to hear all our leaders speak especially on the Left who may try and make this political.


Cuomo said that the President and Vice President "acted swiftly" and he ought to know.


Went to my local grocery store last night and the shelves were practically bare like you would expect days before a hurricane was due to strike. Ridiculous. Food will be delivered everyday, there is no food shortage. Stop spreading fear!

[oeb11]

Cuomo is blaming Trump for "spreading fear" - when in fact cuomo is doing precisely That!!!

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Maybe the only time you will ever hear me quote and agree with the Governor of New York.


Listening to Cuomo give a press conference where he is speaking the way we would like to hear all our leaders speak especially on the Left who may try and make this political.


Cuomo said that the President and Vice President "acted swiftly" and he ought to know.


Went to my local grocery store last night and the shelves were practically bare like you would expect days before a hurricane was due to strike. Ridiculous. Food will be delivered everyday, there is no food shortage. Stop spreading fear!

Some people even a flake like cuomo grow a conscience every now and then and talk realistically.

[Jacuzzme]

Except for his brother, Fredo.

[nevergaveitathought]

tulip mania

the dot.com bubble

y2k

investing in $40,000 llamas - some of you might recall that back when $40,000 was a lot of money

and the wuhan coronavirus craze

what do these mass hysterias NOT have in common?

answer: the dims and their news media have only driven the last one

[oeb11]

There is a fear and hysteria driven by the media - the facts of the disease indicate it is less virulent than Influenza A -and the media isn't all over that because they cannot blame it on Trump - as they are trying to do with Coronvirus.

The media driven cancellations are absurd.

Ther are god recommendations at the CDC for managing this matter.

There are also lots of false sites with fake news for the unwary.
"
Get educated with FACTS" - something the Fascist DPST's reject out of hand.

[Jacuzzme]

Best thing for the country right now would be to shut down the media for a few months.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Except for his brother, Fredo.

Fredo is a hot headed asshole.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Cuomo is blaming Trump for "spreading fear" - when in fact cuomo is doing precisely That!!!

I can only speak to what I just heard Cuomo say and he said nothing derogatory about Trump. As a matter of fact, he was complimentary saying that Trump acted "swiftly" and nothing he said in this interview could be construed as spreading fear. He spoke with reason and stated facts.


What Cuomo may have said previous to this interview, I do not know but it is a fact that many in the left leaning media and Democratic party have used this as a weapon against Trump which is completely unreasonable and not backed up by facts.


Apparently some Democrats have heeded the advice that our leaders must speak with more reason than malice. I hope it is a trend that continues but I see from listening to Pelosi, that won't be the case with her.


Did you know that re-electing Trump may mean the end of civilization as we know it? Yep, that's what Pelosi said. How's that for the epitome of hyperbole?

[oeb11]

HF- Thank you , Sir - Gov Cuomo has spouted so much Anti-Trump hyperbole and propaganda, that my trust in him saying anything reasonable was reduced to nil.

I did not see the media segment of Cuomo. I React to his well defined Democrat party stands and Trump hatred.



You characterize Cuomo in the media segment as being "reason "able" - which is a change IMHO.

I haven't seen any change from Pelosi or Schumer. They would be happy to have an apocalypse destroy America - if it meant the end of the Trump administration.

Perhaps - for what ever reason - Cuomo changed his political stance to more reasonable. For this topic, at least.

In the interest of the Countries' medical health - "public health" - I do hope so.

[Jacuzzme]

I haven't seen any change from Pelosi or Schumer. They would be happy to have an apocalypse destroy America - if it meant the end of the Trump administration.

It’s not only those two. At this moment their are millions of Americans rooting for the deaths of millions of other Americans, for exactly that reason. It is a sad state of affairs.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by oeb11

There is a fear and hysteria driven by the media - the facts of the disease indicate it is less virulent than Influenza A -and the media isn't all over that because they cannot blame it on Trump - as they are trying to do with Coronvirus.

The media driven cancellations are absurd.

Ther are god recommendations at the CDC for managing this matter.

There are also lots of false sites with fake news for the unwary.
"
Get educated with FACTS" - something the Fascist DPST's reject out of hand.

I'll have to disagree with you on that. From my research and of course I could be wrong, is that Corona is more virulent than influenza A.


So let's start with the definition of virulent.

Definition of virulent



1a: marked by a rapid, severe, and destructive coursea virulent infection
b: able to overcome bodily defensive mechanisms : markedly pathogenicvirulent bacteria

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...er-11583856879

People have more protection from the flu because there is a vaccine and they are exposed to flu viruses every year.
That speaks to b quite clearly

There is no vaccine yet to protect people against Covid-19, the disease caused by the new virus.

“I think what we’re seeing with Covid-19 is what influenza would look like without a vaccine,” said Neil Fishman, who is chief medical officer at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania and an infectious-disease specialist.

Scientists haven’t yet established exactly how deadly or transmissible the new virus is. But so far the new coronavirus appears to be deadlier than the seasonal flu, which kills thousands of Americans every season.

Calculations of the mortality rate for Covid-19 have ranged between 2% and 3.4% since the virus was identified in China in January, according to World Health Organization data. Those percentages are derived by dividing the number of confirmed deaths globally into the number of confirmed cases.
By contrast, the seasonal flu has a death rate of approximately 0.1%.

I could post many other sites but this seems to be the consensus. It isn't (yet ) known that Corona will be more deadly, it may not but we do know that we have a vaccine for influenza, none exist yet for corona and we know that over the years our bodies have adapted to influenza which it can be intellectually argued is a reason why it is less deadly AT THIS TIME.


I'm trying to present the facts as I understand them but of course, I could be wrong.


And yes, all these cancellations are absurd. Right now if you are over a certain age, I think it is down to 60 in some cases, you can not board a cruise ship without proving you have tested negative for Corona. So instead of say shutting down the NBA season as example, suggest/ require that all persons over 60, 65, 70, which ever works best, get tested first ( or just sit this out for a few weeks or months ) since these are the most vulnerable. Why cancel an event when 80% of a mixed age group crowd isn't susceptible to deadly consequences and 99% of a younger crowd. The crowd could theoretically be limited to those with less vulnerability?


Going back to Governor Cuomo, he was making the case I have been making. Young people are not as susceptible to this and keeping them out of school a more or less controlled environment, right now, may be a step to far. Let's concentrate on the elderly if we want to get a handle on this new virus that we have no antibodies for and no vaccine which I believe common sense tells us is more virulent than influenza A not because the virus itself is more deadly but having never been exposed to it before, makes it more deadly for reasons just discussed.


I think destroying trillions of dollars of wealth because of panic and hysteria will be seen as a very stupid reaction to this virus.


Think about this. Millions of people will have been exposed to this new virus this year. Millions more will likely be exposed in the coming years and sooner or later like influenza, the majority of people will experience the symptoms with out dying. That too seems to be the scientific consensus.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by oeb11

There is a fear and hysteria driven by the media - the facts of the disease indicate it is less virulent than Influenza A -and the media isn't all over that because they cannot blame it on Trump - as they are trying to do with Coronvirus.

The media driven cancellations are absurd.

Ther are god recommendations at the CDC for managing this matter.

There are also lots of false sites with fake news for the unwary.
"
Get educated with FACTS" - something the Fascist DPST's reject out of hand.

Like my neighbor who is convinced this is all because people are coming into contact with and touching "the corona beetle". I swear to you, I am not making this up. He gave me this puzzled look and said "why don't they just stop touching the corona beetle?


How's that for being misinformed? Did I try and correct him? Not even I have that much patience.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Like my neighbor who is convinced this is all because people are coming into contact with and touching "the corona beetle". I swear to you, I am not making this up. He gave me this puzzled look and said "why don't they just stop touching the corona beetle?


How's that for being misinformed? Did I try and correct him? Not even I have that much patience.

BAHHAHHAAAAA

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Except for his brother, Fredo.

Well Fredo will get his just deserts one day. He'll square off with the wrong guy and get his ass kicked. The arrogant liberals in this country are in for a rude awakening very soon. Enough is enough of their bullshit.