Appearing on the Winstar Stage... One Geezer After Another..

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by Crock

There's no reason to be ashamed of our bodies changing as we age. So what if they don't sound the same? We've got amazing technology that allows us to listen to near perfect recordings no matter where we are. But getting to hear the same artist play the songs that they love late in life? For fans, that's a great experience.

granted, I would see an aged Artist if it was my only time, and they could still mostly bring it. but the technology problem extends to the stage, in that artists can pipe in pre-recorded vocals, instruments and what-not, and many do.. we are paying these folks major bucks to lip-synch and fake playing on stage. many bands have off-stage guys doing the instrument work, out of sight from the audience.

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Last time I was at windstar the average age was like 100 so that's the target customers just saying Chung

good point. I'm continually amazed how many very old people grace that Casino

Originally Posted by FunMonday

If only I could Robert Plant before he croaks

I was lucky to catch him "live", and sit directly in front of him, maybe 15 feet away. second row.. nice memory.

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Last time I was at windstar the average age was like 100 so that's the target customers just saying Chung

the last time i went (early last year), the suckers, errrr gamblers there sure didnt look like the crowd that are on their commericals!
mostly a bunch of good ol' oklahomans and north texans smoking cigarettes and play slot machines.

[mtabsw]

Chung, I'm just hoping you're not the screener for some of the chicas I want to fuck. Damn guys, have a heart for the old fucks - we are what you will be.

[oldbutstillgoing]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

I get your point, Crock.. however... from my perspective, your post applies to, say, an Artist between 65-75, roughly speaking. not an exact range that fits everyone, but a good thumbnail.

after that, you must consider the Artist's ability to continue performing.. every singer loses range, few can truly deliver at an advanced age.. I go back to that 75 "cap".. it might be 80 for a few artists.. it could also be 65.. it depends.

it matters, too, what and how you sing.. Willie Nelson can keep going with a voice like his, the songs he has always performed.. not a lot to it. Patti Labelle? different story.. she is still remarkable for her age, but no way can she last to Willie's age.. Tony Bennett, yes, easy listening, light vocals that don't strain the cords much.. for the most part.. but God Damn, 93?

it isn't about what they love, or want to do the rest of their lives.. at a certain point, it becomes a cash grab or an ego massage. somebody in your Camp, your handlers, need to say "this needs to stop, you can't sing worth a damn anymore".. maybe say it more gently, but it's no different from telling Grandma she needs to hand over the car keys, after T-boning 2 vehicles last week.

I disagree to some level. Some of these artists are lifelong idols of many of their fans. Maybe they never got to see them perform. Or maybe they just truly love they're music. The performance may not be what they were when they were in their Prime, but to a true fan, to see your favorite artist one more time before they passed, is a powerful draw. No one has to go to their concert. And I doubt many first-time listeners go to these concert. I know that if I had the chance to see a few artists that I've known all my life, I would go see them at whatever age they are. Just to say I saw them perform

[Chung Tran]

I get that, obsg.. nostalgia can be a strong draw. I find it odd, though, that old people will pay big money to see another old person perform as a shadow of his former self, while charging 70% more (even inflation-adjusted) than he commanded "back in the day".

by that metric, I suppose those who saw the Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, the Eagles, etc., in the 1970's, paid a true bargain price!

ironically, since my initial post here, the Corona virus may end up forcing the cancellation of some "Geezer" shows.. take the Charley Pride Date.. do you really want 3,000 Seniors crammed into the Winstar Global Event Center in that small space? CDC might object.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

I get your point, Crock.. however... from my perspective, your post applies to, say, an Artist between 65-75, roughly speaking. not an exact range that fits everyone, but a good thumbnail.

after that, you must consider the Artist's ability to continue performing.. every singer loses range, few can truly deliver at an advanced age.. I go back to that 75 "cap".. it might be 80 for a few artists.. it could also be 65.. it depends.

it matters, too, what and how you sing.. Willie Nelson can keep going with a voice like his, the songs he has always performed.. not a lot to it. Patti Labelle? different story.. she is still remarkable for her age, but no way can she last to Willie's age.. Tony Bennett, yes, easy listening, light vocals that don't strain the cords much.. for the most part.. but God Damn, 93?

it isn't about what they love, or want to do the rest of their lives.. at a certain point, it becomes a cash grab or an ego massage. somebody in your Camp, your handlers, need to say "this needs to stop, you can't sing worth a damn anymore".. maybe say it more gently, but it's no different from telling Grandma she needs to hand over the car keys, after T-boning 2 vehicles last week.

How can they stand to sing the same songs for 50 years!

[harry]

They can’t but the royalty and concert appearance checks help make it bearable.