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Old 02-21-2020, 11:56 AM   #16
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can you wait a bit and i'll get right back to ya?

be here the evening of November 3rd, that's when the poll comes out
And you'll be there to suck it!



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Old 02-21-2020, 02:25 PM   #17
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Speedy, are you trying to say you haven’t been referencing polls for the last couple years? That’s false. You have. I’ve stated many times that some polls are designed to sway public opinion. I said that Biden wouldn’t win the nomination they day he announced in Philly. 200 hundred people showed up and it was clear to me he didn’t have it. I don’t need a poll to see that. And it’s got worse for him. The polls didn’t reflect this until recently.
No,I never said I haven't been referencing polls for a number of years. Either you believe in polls or you do not. Over the years they've been very accurate. You will find very few people that will agree with you that polls are "designed to sway public opinion."

What I've found on this forum is that people cite polls when they agree with one's view of the world and denigrate them when they do not.

Here are 2 polls just out:

Satisfaction With U.S. the Highest It's Ever Been Since 2005

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/shock...en-since-2005/

Highest Number of Independents To Date Approve of Trump

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-of-trump-poll

So are these polls "designed to sway public opinion"? Or are the polls accurately reflecting the views of the people at a certain point in time?

And you accused me of selecting only polls that favor my point of view but failed to answer my question "What states favorable to Trump should I have mentioned?"
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Old 02-22-2020, 07:57 AM   #18
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No,I never said I haven't been referencing polls for a number of years. Either you believe in polls or you do not. Over the years they've been very accurate. You will find very few people that will agree with you that polls are "designed to sway public opinion."

What I've found on this forum is that people cite polls when they agree with one's view of the world and denigrate them when they do not.

Here are 2 polls just out:

Satisfaction With U.S. the Highest It's Ever Been Since 2005

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/shock...en-since-2005/

Highest Number of Independents To Date Approve of Trump

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-of-trump-poll

So are these polls "designed to sway public opinion"? Or are the polls accurately reflecting the views of the people at a certain point in time?

And you accused me of selecting only polls that favor my point of view but failed to answer my question "What states favorable to Trump should I have mentioned?"
I don’t need to read polls, Trump will win again. I’ll start documenting everytime you reference polls.
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Old 02-22-2020, 08:06 AM   #19
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And you'll be there to suck it!



You just love a story where a guy sucks cocks, don't you?
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You just love a story where a guy sucks cocks, don't you?
And gets an elbows deep ream job.
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I don’t need to read polls, Trump will win again. I’ll start documenting everytime you reference polls.
Please do.

You still did not answer my rather simple question:

And you accused me of selecting only polls that favor my point of view but failed to answer my questihe won in on "What states favorable to Trump should I have mentioned?"

I believe you stated that in addition to Trump holding on to all the states he won in 2016, he will win N.H. and Minnesota in 2020.

Still sticking with that prediction or would you like to update it?
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Polls need to be taken with a grain of salt. Who cares trump will still win.
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Old 02-22-2020, 02:58 PM   #23
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Please do.

You still did not answer my rather simple question:

And you accused me of selecting only polls that favor my point of view but failed to answer my questihe won in on "What states favorable to Trump should I have mentioned?"

I believe you stated that in addition to Trump holding on to all the states he won in 2016, he will win N.H. and Minnesota in 2020.

Still sticking with that prediction or would you like to update it?
I said he could win those states, toss Nevada in there too. You just assume since Wisconsin, Michigan, an Pa were close in 2016, Trump will lose them in 2020. While Trump won’t flip states that he lost narrowly. You never bring it up. I’m saying Trump will win again. If Sanders is the nominee, Trump will win more EV’s this time around.
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Everybody is a star, Uncle Han! All of yous are!
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Unless the Fed raises interest rates 2 percent between now and the election, Trumps got this.
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I hope president pence gets your marriage annulled.
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It's still early. Basically, it will be a 3-5 state race. If Trump keeps Florida and Ohio, the Dem nominee must get HC's 240 and flip Mich, Penn and Wisc back to blue.

it wouldn't be a "States" race at all without the electoral college. a quick search of your recent posts finds a lot of talk about who may or may not be able to get the required 270 but nothing recently at least about eliminating it which has been a big talking heads point by the left.



so unless you want to state otherwise i'll take it you do not favor ending the electoral college?


no candidate would bother to go to the majority of States, swing or not if not for the electoral college. yet more proof it works exactly as intended.


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Not true at all. The link I provided has EVERY poll in it.

I focus on the polls in a handful of states, commonly known as "battleground" states. I don't care about polls done in states like Alabama or California or 40+ other other states since their outcome is not in doubt. I guess I could have mentioned Virginia where one poll shows a closer than expected race with Biden leading Trump by 4% in the latest poll.

The states I mentioned in my post are the ones that will spell victory or defeat in 2020 -- Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Florida and possibly NC and Ohio, two states that I assumed would be Republican but current polling show close races. And I cited the latest polling done in those states.

What states favorable to Trump should I have mentioned?


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You’ve been quoting polls since Trump was elected. Only the ones that suit your opinion. The ones that are favorable to Trump, you dismiss.

Bam is right, you do tend to dismiss polls that indicate Trump's support is rising and/or greater than the press in general claim. if the press is right about "everyone hates Trump" he wouldn't have won in 2016.



Bam is also right here too ..



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Speedy, are you trying to say you haven’t been referencing polls for the last couple years? That’s false. You have. I’ve stated many times that some polls are designed to sway public opinion. I said that Biden wouldn’t win the nomination they day he announced in Philly. 200 hundred people showed up and it was clear to me he didn’t have it. I don’t need a poll to see that. And it’s got worse for him. The polls didn’t reflect this until recently.

this was seen in full force in 2016. and the hag actually began to believe her own "politically cooked" polls, knowing full well they were tainted data. tainted on purpose to claim the hag had an overwhelming lead and guess what happened? the Dem's "lazy" base didn't turn out to get the job done figuring "oh, enough people will vote for Clinton against that Evil Trump guy for us to win".


well a fumy thing happened on the way to the Coliseum.


BAHHAAAAAAA


and in 2016 it appears that many polled voters intentionally misled the pollsters by not saying they were voting for Trump. i'm sure there were many reason for that, the most often cited was people not wanting to identity as Trump supporters. i find this a bit odd since the polls are supposed to be anonymous or as close to it as you can get these days.


i thnik many pollsters simply didn't consider Republican voters as much as they should in their polling samples and flat out got it wrong. as Bam said the rest were just "cooked up" crap to sway voters.
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Unless the Fed raises interest rates 2 percent between now and the election, Trumps got this.
Or this China virus won't go away....or any number of other things.


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Or this China virus won't go away....or any number of other things.
As you say any number of things...start with "if the earth stops spinning"
If you're a flat earthier...disregard
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As you say any number of things...start with "if the earth stops spinning"
If you're a flat earthier...disregard
Maybe Putin gets overthrown and the new guy wants a Democrat in the office of President!


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