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Old 10-31-2019, 09:34 AM   #1
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Default Is California Becoming Premodern?

https://townhall.com/columnists/vict...odern-n2555588


Consumers blame the state for not cleaning up dead trees and brush, along with the utility companies for not updating their ossified equipment. The power companies in turn fault the state for so over-regulating utilities that they had no resources to modernize their grids.

Californians know that having tens of thousands of homeless in their major cities is untenable. In some places, municipal sidewalks have become open sewers of garbage, used needles, rodents and infectious diseases. Yet no one dares question progressive orthodoxy by enforcing drug and vagrancy laws, moving the homeless out of cities to suburban or rural facilities, or increasing the number of mental hospitals.

No one would dare to connect the crumbling infrastructure, poor schools and failing public health care with the non-enforcement of immigration laws, which has led to a massive influx of undocumented immigrants from the poorest regions of the world, who often arrive without fluency in English or a high-school education.

this state is headed to situation where "nothing works" like in Venezuela.

Has California become premodern? almost.

this is luddism. this what the commie/non-commie luddites want for everyone.
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Old 10-31-2019, 01:51 PM   #2
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Saw a Cro-Mag from California on TV earlier today...Kevin McCarthy.
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Old 10-31-2019, 02:01 PM   #3
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Isn't that most Californians goals? Earth mothers on the sustainable path? Sacrifices must be made.

Let the bastards burn to death in the dark.
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Isn't that most Californians goals? Earth mothers on the sustainable path? Sacrifices must be made.
Let the bastards burn to death in the dark.
Or fall into the ocean with the next big quake.
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:08 PM   #5
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California is a fucked up state - I hated living there.
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:21 PM   #6
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Nuke california now! It wont be missed.
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:22 PM   #7
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Revolutionary California

Can 40 million suffer third-world electric reliability without a political upheaval?


By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
Oct. 29, 2019 6:53 pm ET

California may well be entering a pre-revolutionary situation as the Marxists would call it. Unlike the rolling blackouts of 19 years ago, today’s outages cannot be stopped with a simple act of regulatory courage, which then consisted simply of guaranteeing that suppliers would get paid for power they supplied under long-term contracts.

Back then, a feckless governor dithered. Over 11 months, residents suffered blackouts that in their totality are already exceeded by just one of the intentional outages called in recent weeks to protect utilities from wildfire liabilities.

This week a homeowner told the Los Angeles Times: “They shut off the power and we still had a fire. I don’t understand it.” That’s because less than 10% of fires are caused by power lines. It’s impossible even to know if the intentional outages are doing more harm than good, though the question at least was broached in a state Senate hearing this year. Utilities make the decision. They are understandably focused on minimizing their own financial liability rather than weighing the trade-offs that outages impose on the public.

Last time, a recently re-elected Democratic governor was recalled in a chaotic referendum and eventually replaced by movie action-hero Arnold Schwarzenegger. But with the blackouts long since resolved, Mr. Schwarzenegger went down to a humiliating defeat at the hands of public-sector unions when he promoted ballot measures aimed at union power, overspending and gerrymandering that would have reformed the state’s politics.

There are differences. Last time, affluent urban areas were hit with blackouts too, although utilities also were in a better position to exempt sensitive customers like hospitals and shelters. Californians today see fires on the news. They may believe the blackouts are justified by the emergency. Then again, given the nature of the grid, many are suffering outages without experiencing high winds and fire threats. And the outages are likely to be a recurring feature for years.

Since the defeat of Arnold’s reforms, California has tended to mistake the success of Silicon Valley and Hollywood, whose economic hinterland, talent base and revenue source are the world, for California being well-run.

It’s not. Any such illusion is belied by its homeless and poverty problems, its Nimby-driven housing costs, the black hole of its bullet train, the decampment of families and businesses to Texas, North Carolina and Tennessee.

The immediate crisis will eventually be ameliorated by better weather and by myriad acts of adaptation by utilities, homeowners and communities, but California’s governance culture will remain.

The wildfire crisis is ultimately the product of a state politics controlled by interest groups whose agenda has drifted out of any cognizable relationship with the daily well-being of the state’s average citizen.

Because California accounts for less than 1% of global emissions, nothing it does will make a difference to climate, but its ratepayers shell out billions for wind and solar that might be better spent on fireproofing. A generation of ill-judged environmental activism has all but ended forest management in favor of letting dead trees and underbrush build up because it’s more “natural.” At the same time, residents resist any natural or planned fires that would consume this tinder before it gives rise to conflagrations like those now menacing Los Angeles and San Francisco.

An activist state Supreme Court imposed on utilities responsibility for any wildfires started by their equipment regardless of negligence. At the same time, state policy obliges them to extend their networks to support housing developments in areas the state designates as “very high fire risk.”

California’s activist one-party government, with its penchant for pretending to be a national government in relation to the hot-button issues of the left, is where all these roads end. Elites subsidize electric cars for themselves while promoting zoning that forces lower-income workers to commute three hours to a job or live in their cars. PG&E can’t keep trees off its power lines but can supply exact numbers for how many LGBTQ workers it employs.

Entrenched one-party government has given California’s political class too much incentive to cater to the perpetual, year-round, full-time priorities of public-sector unions, green groups and the organized academic left rather than care about the quality of life for the average person in the state.

Revolutions are unpredictable, and may start for good reasons and end up doing very bad things. It’s hard to see how 40 million people can go overnight from First World electric reliability to Third World electric reliability without a voter revolt. No conspicuous sign yet exists that either the dominant Democrats or the moribund Republicans are capable of articulating a critique that points in a new direction: toward a government that actually cares about taxpayers and working citizens.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/revolut...ia-11572389585
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Revolutions are unpredictable, and may start for good reasons and end up doing very bad things. It’s hard to see how 40 million people can go overnight from First World electric reliability to Third World electric reliability without a voter revolt. No conspicuous sign yet exists that either the dominant Democrats or the moribund Republicans are capable of articulating a critique that points in a new direction: toward a government that actually cares about taxpayers and working citizens.

that last comment should be cause for some concern.


what if someone gave a revolution and no one came.


look at what's going on in venezuela. they had protests, but they couldn't keep it going.



no one there seems interested in taking up arms to over throw maduro.


looks like he's come up with way to kill a revolution from rising while at the same time causing problems for his neighbors who are having problems with protests.
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that last comment should be cause for some concern.


what if someone gave a revolution and no one came.


look at what's going on in venezuela. they had protests, but they couldn't keep it going.



no one there seems interested in taking up arms to over throw maduro.


looks like he's come up with way to kill a revolution from rising while at the same time causing problems for his neighbors who are having problems with protests.
Americans these days are likely too fat to cause a revolution to be sustainable, too.

Let them eat cake -

















and candy, cookies, chocolate, soft drinks, etc.
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The Venezuelans had their guns taken away. Don't show up to a gunfight without one!
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Old 11-01-2019, 07:46 AM   #11
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Amen!!!!
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:18 AM   #12
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Cali's BEEN a problem for a very long time, and now its becoming a 3rd world state
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:30 AM   #13
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The Venezuelans had their guns taken away. Don't show up to a gunfight without one!

they can get them thru black market if they really wanted to.


its a matter of wanting to fight for it. they're not thirsty enough.


the only who are thirsty enough have been the communist thugs who over thru their former govts or engaged in attacks on their current govt.



look at what happened with soviet union under its 70 year rule. not one of its people took up arms to over throw them. fear is a powerful motivator.


communist Romania tried to contain them with thugs but didn't succeed.



the difference between then and now is that they've figured out how to contain the protests. communist authorities didn't know how to contain an unarmed protest when it blew open in early 1990s.
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WHAT?
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:01 PM   #15
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Californians won't revolt. They will just move to states where things run smoothly and try to fuck them up too.
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