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supercold1 · 07-23-2019, 04:02 PM

Trump was sued for discrimination against black people, and lost. Trump tower also had to pay fines for discriminating against black and Latino guests. He’s called for the execution of innocent black kids because they’re black. He says these congresswomen aren’t from here because they’re poc’s. Trump is the real racist. He gets away with it because he’s white and previlidged. Calling that out is not racist. Calling that racism, is.

Austin Ellen · 07-23-2019, 05:08 PM

When the election comes people will have to ask themselves "Am I better off now or 4 years ago." If the answer is yes (as is the case with me) then I will vote for Trump. If you are not better off - then vote for the other party.
They are also going to have to ask themselves "Do I want to live in a Socialist state." I do not. So I will vote for Trump. If you want live in a Socialist state - vote for the Democrats.
It's really that simple.
Sorry Speed but I like living in Trumps world. The other choice puts the fear of God in me.

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Don't be brainwashed. Just because something is "accomplished" does not mean it is in the best interests of the people of this country. One example from the long list -- dropping out of the Paris Accord. Most people in this country believe it is incorrect to do so.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/19...united-states/

Signed trade deal with China? I must have missed that one.

Stock market at an all time high? Great for the 54% of adults who have money in the stock market. Meaningless to the 46% who do not.

I know you understand the REAL issues that impact the voters and it's not the minor crap in your post. Healthcare. Trump scores a zero. Immigration -- Trump seems to be trying but right now he gets at best a 50. Economy -- depends who you ask. The middle of the middle class and below are not better off than they were when Trump took office. Tax reform package gave them a little more money each month. The tariffs imposed on other countries have taken that away. And the cost of living rose more in 2018 than in the previous 10 years, turning REAL wage growth negative.

Try living in the REAL world, not the world Trump has you believing it is.

supercold1 · 07-23-2019, 07:03 PM

Democrats aren't socialists. If they were socialists, then they would call themselves socialists. What they do is see how other western industrialized democracies that have successfully implemented some socialism, such as bank regulation, universal healthcare, non-private prisons, they've seen how well this has benefited the public, and they want that for America. And we're gonna start getting it, too, because there are way more of us and we're going to win. Sorry if some of your billionaire friends are finally going to have to pay some taxes. How many billionaire friends do you have, again?

SpeedRacerXXX · 07-24-2019, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

When the election comes people will have to ask themselves "Am I better off now or 4 years ago." If the answer is yes (as is the case with me) then I will vote for Trump. If you are not better off - then vote for the other party.
They are also going to have to ask themselves "Do I want to live in a Socialist state." I do not. So I will vote for Trump. If you want live in a Socialist state - vote for the Democrats.
It's really that simple.
Sorry Speed but I like living in Trumps world. The other choice puts the fear of God in me.

You and others are clueless as to what a socialistic state really implies.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/

noun

noun: socialism

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

So you tell me which Democratic candidate is pushing true socialism on this country. Medicare for All. Yes, that would fit under the heading of socialism. What other policies being pushed by the leading Democratic presidential candidates are considered socialistic?

Trump and his Trumpettes want voters to believe that electing a Democrat as POTUS would turn the country into Venezuela in no time. The voters of this country are too smart to believe that crap.

Republicans want an election about socialism. They likely won’t get one

https://www.rollcall.com/news/an-ele...alism-or-trump

And as I stated in my previous post, the average middle of the middle income person and below are NOT better off financially than they were when Trump was elected. I'm not even sure where I personally stand because tariffs are a silent tax and cost of living increases are hard to factor into our day-to-day lives.

Austin Ellen · 07-24-2019, 09:39 AM

All you have to do is check out Bernie Sanders. He was on a stage last week in a major speech extolling the virtues of Democratic Socialism. Come on Speed - you know this.

bjarnibear · 07-24-2019, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by supercold1

Democrats aren't socialists. If they were socialists, then they would call themselves socialists. What they do is see how other western industrialized democracies that have successfully implemented some socialism, such as bank regulation, universal healthcare, non-private prisons, they've seen how well this has benefited the public, and they want that for America. And we're gonna start getting it, too, because there are way more of us and we're going to win. Sorry if some of your billionaire friends are finally going to have to pay some taxes. How many billionaire friends do you have, again?

The US already embraces many many socialistic hallmarks: Social Security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, public schools, and many other governmental actions and regulations that benefit every American.. We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic. Government does not function only for the majority, but for the benefit of ALL citizens and resident aliens as well, example: the first amendments to the Constitution were passed to protect individual rights. In fact, I feel all the amendments are there to protect the minority, not the majority. I am not sure Trump gets it. "His rights" seem to be the only ones that are important.

Agent220 · 07-24-2019, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Sorry Speed but I like living in Trumps world. The other choice puts the fear of God in me.

Folks this is why we have identity politics because in my worldview as a 30 something educated AA, my experience is totally different. I am beyond horrified of a 2nd Donald J Chump term because these neo-Nazis and nationalists are more emboldened with him in power.

Austin Ellen · 07-24-2019, 04:55 PM

Uh huh. Aren't you the one who changed his handle because you were harassing 2 ladies on here? You might want to take a very long and hard look in the mirror. Unreal. With that type of behaviour you really belong to the neo natzies. They love men that harass and stalk women.

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Originally Posted by Agent220

Folks this is why we have identity politics because in my worldview as a 30 something educated AA, my experience is totally different. I am beyond horrified of a 2nd Donald J Chump term because these neo-Nazis and nationalists are more emboldened with him in power.

SpeedRacerXXX · 07-24-2019, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

All you have to do is check out Bernie Sanders. He was on a stage last week in a major speech extolling the virtues of Democratic Socialism. Come on Speed - you know this.

Bernie Sanders is 1 of more than 20 Democratic hopefuls. The majority of the other 20+ do not share most of his views. YOU KNOW THIS. Or at least you should. Once again you are doing what so many Trump supporters do --stereotyping all Democrats/Liberals together as believing the same on all issues.

Precious_b · 07-24-2019, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Here ya go -

A few of those things really aren't accomplishments.

Precious_b · 07-24-2019, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Uh huh. Aren't you the one who changed his handle because you were harassing 2 ladies on here? You might want to take a very long and hard look in the mirror. Unreal. With that type of behaviour you really belong to the neo natzies. They love men that harass and stalk women.

What's this response have to do with the price of tea in China?

You obviously don't care that Fearless Leader has no respect for women. So why make this non-topic comment?

Precious_b · 07-24-2019, 08:39 PM

Austin Ellen · 07-24-2019, 08:42 PM

Precious - reading comprehension is your friend. Try it sometime.
I was responding to Agent 220's post.

Precious_b · 07-24-2019, 08:58 PM

Look in the mirror.
I was responding to your post of Agent.
Getting a bit testy.
Must be that comment about the Prez T and his young women.

Agent220 · 07-24-2019, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Uh huh. Aren't you the one who changed his handle because you were harassing 2 ladies on here? You might want to take a very long and hard look in the mirror. Unreal. With that type of behaviour you really belong to the neo natzies. They love men that harass and stalk women.

I thought we were talking about President Trump. Im sorry that the truth hurts and the fact that I have 0 criminal history nor the time to do the things you mentioned.