State Department identifies 23 violations, 'multiple security incidents' concerning hildbeest emails

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Sidney Blumenthal wasn't given a pass by Comey, et al. Friday night it was revealed that the FBI found Top Secret SAP material on Blumenthal's computer. There's a new AG in town.

Because of Blumenthal's activities in Libya as an employee of hildebeest's Foundation, hildebeest's Foundation is being investigated as being in violation of FARA and thus violating tax laws governing charitable organizations. The investigation has been underway for several months already. Look for fines and heavy penalties to be imposed.

The Department of State has identified 15 individuals who were implicated for 30 cited violations related to hildebeest's use of an illegal server. If you think that all fifteen of those individuals will keep their mouths shut and not turn on hildebeest you're in a dream world. The investigation has been underway for several months already, and the number of people charged as well as the number of violations is likely to increase raisin the probability that someone will squeal on hildebeest and her operatives.

Durham and Horowitz have been investigating hildebeest's foreign sourced dossier. The whole, damned Odumbo administration -- which includes Biden and Kerry -- and several dim-retard congressmen and senators currently on the campaign trail were involved in spying on the Trump campaign.

Well we'll see. It's my belief that this investigation is a bunch of horse shit. Nothing will come of it except for a waste of my tax dollars. It's nothing but Trump and his cronies trying to push a false agenda to rile up people who will believe in this kind of conspiracy theory. A whole lot of hot air. This is my last post on this matter because I don't think there is anything I can say or do to change your POV.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Well we'll see. It's my belief that this investigation is a bunch of horse shit. Nothing will come of it except for a waste of my tax dollars. It's nothing but Trump and his cronies trying to push a false agenda to rile up people who will believe in this kind of conspiracy theory. A whole lot of hot air. This is my last post on this matter because I don't think there is anything I can say or do to change your POV.

The only "false agenda" has been the dim-retard "RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!" that Mueller falsely pursued for the past two years. Durham and Horowitz have the evidence to connect hildebeest to the Russians.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Your post if full of insults, accusations and is in a disturbingly large font. What's the deal? Obama will never be indicted for anything and neither will Clinton. Continuing to push for an investigation or prosecution for the email issue is a dead end and fills no real purpose. If Obama or Clinton were still in office I could see the argument. As it is this insistence that there was some kind of conspiracy to keep Trump from being elected is sheer nonsense. If that was the case he wouldn't be president.

make a bet on it. who gets indicted first? Trump or either Obama or Clinton.

it's KNOWN that Obama used an alias to email Clinton on her private server. This is why it was vital that he tell Lynch to order Comey not to recommend charges. the result would be unmasking Obama as knowing all about it from the get-go.

but as things sometimes do, it came out anyway.

you are either naive or such a Clinton fan you simply can't accept that she easily would conspire to win the Presidency. Do you accept as fact she conspired to take the nomination away from Bernie? kinda hard to deny that, isn't it?

arya ... gonna claim Donna Brazile DID NOT give Clinton the debate questions prior to her debate with Trump?

or is that what you call fake news?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_...inton_campaign


BAHHAHAAAAAAA

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Well we'll see. It's my belief that this investigation is a bunch of horse shit. Nothing will come of it except for a waste of my tax dollars. It's nothing but Trump and his cronies trying to push a false agenda to rile up people who will believe in this kind of conspiracy theory. A whole lot of hot air. This is my last post on this matter because I don't think there is anything I can say or do to change your POV.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

make a bet on it. who gets indicted first? Trump or either Obama or Clinton.

it's KNOWN that Obama used an alias to email Clinton on her private server. This is why it was vital that he tell Lynch to order Comey not to recommend charges. the result would be unmasking Obama as knowing all about it from the get-go.

but as things sometimes do, it came out anyway.

you are either naive or such a Clinton fan you simply can't accept that she easily would conspire to win the Presidency. Do you accept as fact she conspired to take the nomination away from Bernie? kinda hard to deny that, isn't it?

arya ... gonna claim Donna Brazile DID NOT give Clinton the debate questions prior to her debate with Trump?

or is that what you call fake news?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_...inton_campaign


BAHHAHAAAAAAA

It's not fake news. However it's not indictable. Using super delegates to get the democratic nomination isn't against the law. Getting the debate questions in advance isn't against the law. Even using her own email server wasn't against the law when she started doing it. Is it unethical absolutely. The things she could be indictable for (destroying email's for instance) are not provable in court which is why she was never prosecuted over it.

I state again, please let this go. The Repblican party's rabid obsession with Hillary Clinton is destroying the party. Why can't republican's talk about anything else. How about tax policy, or health care, or fixing social security. The reason they can't is because Donald Trump is in office and he doesn't have any public policies other than, repeal the affordable care act, build a wall, round up brown people, and prosecuting his enemies.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

It's not fake news. However it's not indictable. Using super delegates to get the democratic nomination isn't against the law. Getting the debate questions in advance isn't against the law. Even using her own email server wasn't against the law when she started doing it. Is it unethical absolutely. The things she could be indictable for (destroying email's for instance) are not provable in court which is why she was never prosecuted over it.

I state again, please let this go. The Repblican party's rabid obsession with Hillary Clinton is destroying the party. Why can't republican's talk about anything else. How about tax policy, or health care, or fixing social security. The reason they can't is because Donald Trump is in office and he doesn't have any public policies other than, repeal the affordable care act, build a wall, round up brown people, and prosecuting his enemies.

Do you misunderstand on purpose? Or does not comprehending come natural to you? The Department of State is leveling charges against 15 people for mishandling classified material relating to hildebeest's ILLEGAL server. It's stated in the FBI memo that hildebeest VIOLATED security protocols. Fifteen other people are suffering the legal consequences of violating security protocols in the same manner hildebeest violated security protocols. Plus, hildebeest committed perjury when she LIED and falsely claimed she had left all of her emails with the State Department.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

It's not fake news. However it's not indictable. Using super delegates to get the democratic nomination isn't against the law. Getting the debate questions in advance isn't against the law. Even using her own email server wasn't against the law when she started doing it. Is it unethical absolutely. The things she could be indictable for (destroying email's for instance) are not provable in court which is why she was never prosecuted over it.

I state again, please let this go. The Repblican party's rabid obsession with Hillary Clinton is destroying the party. Why can't republican's talk about anything else. How about tax policy, or health care, or fixing social security. The reason they can't is because Donald Trump is in office and he doesn't have any public policies other than, repeal the affordable care act, build a wall, round up brown people, and prosecuting his enemies.

Because the Democrats can't stop talking about collusion and obstruction and impeaching Trump over nothing.

the Democratic party is destroying themselves. with this witch hunt over Trump. with these socialist assholes and cunts like Bernie and Sandy from the Bronx.

All's fair in love, war and politics.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Because the Democrats can't stop talking about collusion and obstruction and impeaching Trump over nothing.

the Democratic party is destroying themselves. with this witch hunt over Trump. with these socialist assholes and cunts like Bernie and Sandy from the Bronx.

All's fair in love, war and politics.

This is where we differ. Trump is a legitimate political target. Because he's in office and actually affecting the country with his executive policies and his administrative personnel.

Obama and Hillary Clinton are not in office and have no power other than the press. But Trump and the Republicans keep on the email issue and the "lock her up" issue for no good reason. That's just a vindictive political tool to keep distracting the voters from real issues.

If Trump wants to run on something he should start talking about the economy, or the corporate tax cuts, or immigration policy or something of actual substance. But he can't do that because it will give the democrats something to bash him with. So he talks about bullshit instead.

Democrats need to do the same. Stop the impeachment talks (no matter how much he deserves it IMHO) and start talking about something of real value.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

This is where we differ. Trump is a legitimate political target. Because he's in office and actually affecting the country with his executive policies and his administrative personnel.

Obama and Hillary Clinton are not in office and have no power other than the press. But Trump and the Republicans keep on the email issue and the "lock her up" issue for no good reason. That's just a vindictive political tool to keep distracting the voters from real issues.

If Trump wants to run on something he should start talking about the economy, or the corporate tax cuts, or immigration policy or something of actual substance. But he can't do that because it will give the democrats something to bash him with. So he talks about bullshit instead.

Democrats need to do the same. Stop the impeachment talks (no matter how much he deserves it IMHO) and start talking about something of real value.

hildbeest is behind the Russian sourced dossier used by Comey, McCabe, Weissmann, Strzok, Nuland, Yates, etc., in an attempt to take down Trump.

The only way to stop this bullshit nonsense from the dim-retards is to expose and so discredit hildebeest that she crawls under a rock and dies as a public figure: her and fucking Odumbo!

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

This is where we differ. Trump is a legitimate political target. Because he's in office and actually affecting the country with his executive policies and his administrative personnel.

Obama and Hillary Clinton are not in office and have no power other than the press. But Trump and the Republicans keep on the email issue and the "lock her up" issue for no good reason. That's just a vindictive political tool to keep distracting the voters from real issues.

If Trump wants to run on something he should start talking about the economy, or the corporate tax cuts, or immigration policy or something of actual substance. But he can't do that because it will give the democrats something to bash him with. So he talks about bullshit instead.

Democrats need to do the same. Stop the impeachment talks (no matter how much he deserves it IMHO) and start talking about something of real value.

where have you been for 2 years? Fiji?

Trump cut taxes both Corporate (the US had one of the highest if not the highest) and cut personal tax rates.

the economy is doing better than it ever did under Obama.

Hillary is fair game for a criminal investigation. So is Obama.

Illegal immigration is the only major thing left and your beloved dems won't hear of it.

do you support open borders?

[oeb11]

I state again, please let this go. The DPST party's rabid obsession with Donald trump is destroying the party. Why can't DPST's talk about anything else. How about tax policy, or health care, or fixing social security. The reason they can't is because Donald Trump is in office and DPST's have no public policies other than, Impeachment, Open borders, Medicare for All, and Free-stuff for votes, Hypocrisy and persecuting their enemies. And Impeachment

There - FIFY

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You're lying again. The FBI determined that hildebeest violated basic computer security protocol and that she was guilty of stripping security classifications from classified intel documents: an action verified in Wikileaks releases.

Did not lie. Comey explained why she was not prosecuted to Congress back in July 2016. Of the 150,000 emails that they looked at back in 2016, none were marked classified at the time they were sent. If you have an email that has classified material and you don't realize it's classified, you have to show criminal intent to get prosecuted for gross manhandling. Comey explained all of that to Sen. Ted Cruz. Hankering you have selective memory.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...-e-mail-system

From the link:


Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.


In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Did not lie. Comey explained why she was not prosecuted to Congress back in July 2016. Of the 150,000 emails that they looked at back in 2016, none were marked classified at the time they were sent. If you have an email that has classified material and you don't realize it's classified, you have to show criminal intent to get prosecuted for gross manhandling. Comey explained all of that to Sen. Ted Cruz. Hankering you have selective memory.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...-e-mail-system

From the link:


Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.


In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

let me ask you something, son. do you read what you link to first?


"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification."

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Did not lie. Comey explained why she was not prosecuted to Congress back in July 2016. Of the 150,000 emails that they looked at back in 2016, none were marked classified at the time they were sent. If you have an email that has classified material and you don't realize it's classified, you have to show criminal intent to get prosecuted for gross manhandling. Comey explained all of that to Sen. Ted Cruz. Hankering you have selective memory.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...-e-mail-system

From the link:


Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.


In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

You'd be the one ignoring the hildebeest email directing her minions to strip headings from documents and send without said headings. You'd be the one deflecting form the multiple step process required to download classified material from a government computer in order to strip the headings and then send them over hildebeest's insecure network. It is a premeditated action requiring conscious effort. The FBI agents involved said hildebeest violated security protocols. It's a known fact hildbeest was directed not to use a non-government server, and she fucking willfully ignored that directive. Comey lied his ass off, but he did stipulate that anyone else doing what hildebeest did would be prosecuted. Currently, 15 Department of State personnel have been charged for 30 security violations relating to hildebeest's use of an insecure server.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

let me ask you something, son. do you read what you link to first?


"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification."

Waco, it would take all night of surfing the internet to find that quote which is accurate. Here is what Comey said on July 5, 2016 in the same link that backs up what I wrote.

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

I.E. Most of the 150,000 emails were NOT MARKED classified. Again no one is going to Jail. No one is losing their job. At best, there may be some administrative reprimand for these new examples of mishandling classified information that have just come out.

TXdot is right, this is just nickel and dime stuff that is really old news.