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Old 05-27-2019, 07:09 PM   #91
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The problem with this socialized nightmare is that when you give something to someone for free it's a MF'er to undo it...in Socialism you eventually run out of other peoples money.
Exactly the reason the debacle that is Obamacare was rolled out the way it was.

Why do you think all the initially unfunded "goodies" in it were all rolled out at the start. Look here people, free or reduced healthcare for all, but we'll figure out how to actually pay for it later. Typical Dem/Socialist tactic to trap the masses into entitlements and government control at the expense of others and as you say, nearly impossible to remove once in place.

We saw and are seeing the results of this debacle in current employer sponsored plans between recent large premium increases and the addition of very large deductibles/copay amounts that didn't exist pre-Obamacare, but the private employer plans are adding in to balance themselves against the subsidized ObamaCare plans.
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Old 05-27-2019, 07:27 PM   #92
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Ridiculous meme. People flee other countries because they're being bombed, raped, overtaxed, robbed, and assaulted by gangsters, corrupt politicians, and other lawless malcontents.

Coming to this shithole , morally bankrupt, young eating, death spiraling country is a lesser evil (from their perspective) and they can actually make a life for themselves, if nothing else than to escape what they left.
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Old 05-27-2019, 07:32 PM   #93
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Ridiculous meme. People flee other countries because they're being bombed, raped, overtaxed, robbed, and assaulted by gangsters, corrupt politicians, and other lawless malcontents.

which one of those are grounds for asylum? being from a shithole nation is not grounds.
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Old 05-27-2019, 08:19 PM   #94
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Ridiculous meme. People flee other countries because they're being bombed, raped, overtaxed, robbed, and assaulted by gangsters, corrupt politicians, and other lawless malcontents.

Coming to this shithole , morally bankrupt, young eating, death spiraling country is a lesser evil (from their perspective) and they can actually make a life for themselves, if nothing else than to escape what they left.


Actually, the meme relates a fundamental truth that fucks with your delusional belief system, and you can't handle it.
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Old 05-27-2019, 08:29 PM   #95
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Actually, the meme relates a fundamental truth that fucks with your delusional belief system, and you can't handle it.
Delusional, for thinking that everyone should have enough to eat and a place to live, be educated, and pursue happiness, and not be limited by racist, misogynistic, self serving, money hoarding, hell bound bastards?

Yeah. Silly me for thinking that.

FOHWTB!!
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Old 05-27-2019, 08:53 PM   #96
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Delusional, for thinking that everyone should have enough to eat and a place to live, be educated, and pursue happiness, and not be limited by racist, misogynistic, self serving, money hoarding, hell bound bastards?

Yeah. Silly me for thinking that.

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silly you for thinking Capitalism was designed to generate wealth to lift shithole nations out of their shit.

shithole nations are responsible for the shit they wallow in. and that's our problem how exactly??
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:16 PM   #97
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shit hole nations are for all practical purposes known for their corruption.


in this case, they screw their own people over.


U.S. corruption is much more tidier than their messy counterparts. its just a matter of how much bacon yer willing to boil.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:23 PM   #98
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Delusional, for thinking that everyone should have enough to eat and a place to live, be educated, and pursue happiness, and not be limited by racist, misogynistic, self serving, money hoarding, hell bound bastards?

Yeah. Silly me for thinking that.

FOHWTB!!

The only bullshit here is your"belief" that socialism solves the problems you describe. History has shown otherwise.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:43 PM   #99
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Ridiculous meme. People flee other countries because they're being bombed, raped, overtaxed, robbed, and assaulted by gangsters, corrupt politicians, and other lawless malcontents.

Coming to this shithole , morally bankrupt, young eating, death spiraling country is a lesser evil (from their perspective) and they can actually make a life for themselves, if nothing else than to escape what they left.
Other than bombing your fist few sentences described Chicago. I seriously doubt any Chicagoans that have been victims have left the country.
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:29 PM   #100
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The only bullshit here is your"belief" that socialism solves the problems you describe. History has shown otherwise.
Oh, fuck off.

It's not about socialism at all. It's basic fucking human right.

Funny how it's the same dipshits denouncing socialism, especially after they've spent the last part of 400 years benefitting the most from rape, genocide, slavery, economic slavery, and corporate welfare (when your great great grandfather was given reparations for losing slaves, guess what...it's just a fancy version of WELFARE, only it came in a big check instead of crumbs).

The only reason PEOPLE LIKE YOU continue to talk and act the way you do is because it's either an attempt to suppress deep guilt of 400 years of rape, genocide, and slavery, or your kind is simply a morally deficient offspring of hell.

[Putting on my IBH mask on]

Hey, people that don't look like me, I don't give a shit if you starve, live in poor conditions, low health, go uneducated, and live a short agonizing life. Anything that benefits YOU is an inconvenience to me....somehow, at least that's what I'm TOLD to believe. If I don't like where something is going in society, I'll just take my 50 guns and shoot up the whole town. It's not that we have to have everything, it's just that we don't want YOU AND YOUR KIND to have ANYTHING. I wear this white hood because, deep down I know what I'm doing is wrong. If I was actually PROUD of what we were doing, I'd show my face while doing it.

Did I ballpark ya there, Hank?!?!

Did you fly your 'General Lee' flag at half mast today, btw??
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:41 PM   #101
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Oh, fuck off.

It's not about socialism at all. It's basic fucking human right.

Funny how it's the same dipshits denouncing socialism, especially after they've spent the last part of 400 years benefitting the most from rape, genocide, slavery, economic slavery, and corporate welfare (when your great great grandfather was given reparations for losing slaves, guess what...it's just a fancy version of WELFARE, only it came in a big check instead of crumbs).

The only reason PEOPLE LIKE YOU continue to talk and act the way you do is because it's either an attempt to suppress deep guilt of 400 years of rape, genocide, and slavery, or your kind is simply a morally deficient offspring of hell.

[Putting on my IBH mask on]

Hey, people that don't look like me, I don't give a shit if you starve, live in poor conditions, low health, go uneducated, and live a short agonizing life. Anything that benefits YOU is an inconvenience to me....somehow, at least that's what I'm TOLD to believe. If I don't like where something is going in society, I'll just take my 50 guns and shoot up the whole town. It's not that we have to have everything, it's just that we don't want YOU AND YOUR KIND to have ANYTHING. I wear this white hood because, deep down I know what I'm doing is wrong. If I was actually PROUD of what we were doing, I'd show my face while doing it.

Did I ballpark ya there, Hank?!?!

Did you fly your 'General Lee' flag at half mast today, btw??
It's a documented fact that millions upon millions died of starvation in Mao's China and Stalin's Russia just as they are today dying of starvation in Venezuela.

It's your plan that will kill people. History is replete with failed examples of socialism.

As for the other garbage you're spouting ... it's just garbage devoid of facts and truth.

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I'll take that as a yes.

Probably not even ballpark...but direct hit.
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:53 PM   #103
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I'll take that as a yes.

Probably not even ballpark...but direct hit.
Your propensity to perpetuate fantasies and lies rather than comprehend facts and truth means you're not even in the right universe.
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Old 05-28-2019, 01:57 AM   #104
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Ridiculous meme. People flee other countries because they're being bombed, raped, overtaxed, robbed, and assaulted by gangsters, corrupt politicians, and other lawless malcontents.

Coming to this shithole, morally bankrupt, young eating, death spiraling country is a lesser evil (from their perspective) and they can actually make a life for themselves, if nothing else than to escape what they left.
You're losing me.

Are you saying capitalism is "a lesser evil" than socialism?

Or are you trying to tell us socialism inevitably breeds bombing, rape, robbery, over-taxation, assault, corruption and lawlessness on an intolerable level?

Hmmm... ok, no argument either way.

Perhaps you can elaborate more on why anyone would flee to a country that you deem is in a DEATH spiral and expect to be able to make a LIFE for themselves there?

Try not to trip all over your own logical contradictions, if you can.
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Old 05-28-2019, 02:16 AM   #105
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Another layer to this, one you probably love to pretend to not be aware of, is that people are being paid a lot of money to do easy jobs.

When people have easy jobs that let them make a lot of money, what are they going to do. They're going to sit on those jobs. Hell, why not be a career politician for 25-30 years, making a shitload of money, and never having to ACTUALLY work.
Finally you're starting to make sense!

So let's get rid of career politicians, not capitalism or the taxpayers whose wallets are being picked to keep those clowns in their easy jobs.

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