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04-29-2019, 09:31 AM
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Yes it is. And it was on solid footing in November 2018 when, if memory serves me correct, every Trump supporter on this forum predicted the House would remain in Republican hands and possibly increase their majority. Their reasoning -- the economy was doing so well. Obviously the economy is not the only factor that voters are looking at when deciding for whom to vote.
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Yes it was, and not everyone was touting holding onto the House. The mid-term followed the normal pattern of a mid-term where the party in power either loses seats and possibly even loses control of the House. There is nothing in what happened in 2018 that predicates the POTUS election of 2020 other than it was an unusual pickup of Senate seats by the majority party of the POTUS.
Historically, good economies have led to POTUS re-elections, but the landscape can change on a dime.
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04-29-2019, 09:51 AM
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Yes it is. And it was on solid footing in November 2018 when, if memory serves me correct, every Trump supporter on this forum predicted the House would remain in Republican hands and possibly increase their majority. Their reasoning -- the economy was doing so well. Obviously the economy is not the only factor that voters are looking at when deciding for whom to vote.
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I was a skeptic about the House and said so. 40 incumbent Republicans decided not to run. That’s a big hurdle to jump. Several Blue Dog Democrats won in those districts. BTW, Trump wasn’t on the ballot.
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04-29-2019, 09:54 AM
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If Democrats want to win in 2020 they are going to have to convince voters they can make things happen. Two major mishaps have already occurred that indicate that the Democratic party is nothing but a bunch of big mouth losers. One is the Russian collusion investigation, where a two year investigation proved nothing and Democrats are still hell bent on impeaching Trump for reasons they can't prove or explain. The other was the lame attempt by Democrats to prevent the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh by imposing an unsubstantiated decades old sexual assault allocations. The Democrats should have been able by now to impeach Trump and prevent the Kavanaugh Supreme Court confirmation if any of it had merit. But they didn't because they chose to be cheap shot artists instead of leaders. Now in 2020 they will have to reverse that notion that many voters have of them in order to win.
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04-29-2019, 12:44 PM
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At this point, it looks like the Democrats are stalking Trump. Even Bill Mahr accused Adam Schmiff of doing that.
Americans are sick of this. And voters are getting angry about it. Enough is enough. Move the fuck on.
I predict Minnesota will flip in 2020.
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04-29-2019, 01:02 PM
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PDJT has a ace up his sleeve.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...e/#more-163114
♦ President Trump can prove the July 31st, 2016, Crossfire Hurricane counterintelligence operation originated from a scheme within the intelligence apparatus by exposing the preceding CIA operation that created the originating “Electronic Communication” memo. Declassify that two-page “EC” document that Brennan gave to Comey. [The trail is found within the Weissmann report and the use of Alexander Downer – SEE HERE]
♦ Release and declassify all of the Comey memos that document the investigative steps taken by the FBI as an outcome of the operation coordinated by CIA Director John Brennan in early 2016. [The trail was memorialized by James Comey – SEE HERE]
♦ Reveal the November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702 search query abuse by declassifying the April 2017 court opinion written by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer. Show the FBI contractors behind the 85% fraudulent search queries. [Crowdstrike? Fusion-GPS? Nellie Ohr? Daniel Richman?] This was a weaponized surveillance and domestic political spying operation. [The trail was laid down in specific detail by Judge Collyer – SEE HERE]
♦ Subpoena former DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) head John Carlin, or haul him in front of a grand jury, and get his testimony about why he hid the abuse from the FISA court in October 2016; why the DOJ-NSD rushed the Carter Page application to beat NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers to the FISA court; and why Carlin quit immediately thereafter.
♦ Prove the Carter Page FISA application (October 2016) was fraudulent and based on deceptions to the FISA Court. Declassify the entire document, and release the transcripts of those who signed the application(s); and/or depose those who have not yet testified. The creation of the Steele Dossier was the cover-up operation. [SEE HERE]
♦ Release all of the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages without redactions. Let sunlight pour in on the actual conversation(s) that were taking place when Crossfire Hurricane (July ’16) and the FISA Application (Oct ’16) were taking place. The current redactions were made by the people who weaponized the intelligence system for political surveillance and spy operation. This is why Page and Strzok texts are redacted!
♦ Release all of Bruce Ohr 302’s, FBI notes from interviews and debriefing sessions, and other relevant documents associated with the interviews of Bruce Ohr and his internal communications. Including exculpatory evidence that Bruce Ohr may have shared with FBI Agent Joseph Pientka. [And get a deposition from this Pientka fella] Bruce Ohr is the courier, carrying information from those outside to those on the inside.
♦ Release the August 2nd, 2017, two-page scope memo provided by DAG Rod Rosenstein to special counsel Robert Mueller to advance the fraudulent Trump investigation, and initiate the more purposeful obstruction of justice investigation. Also Release the October 20th, 2017, second scope memo recently discovered. The Scope Memos are keys to unlocking the underlying spy/surveillance cover-up. [SEE HERE and SEE HERE]
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04-29-2019, 01:21 PM
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Then there is the obvious... https://theconservativetreehouse.com...w/#more-163119
MAGAnomics – Consumer Spending Up Bigly, Price Inflation Remains Low…
Posted on April 29, 2019 by sundance
The professional financial punditry can’t explain it. Flummoxed academics run around bumping into walls amid economic numbers that continue to defy expectations. All caused by a simple return to common sense ‘America First’ MAGAnomics.
Low unemployment (3.8%); wages growing (+3.2%); inflation stable (1.6%). These measures all have a cumulative impact on paycheck-to-paycheck Americans. Prices for durable goods are stable and wage growth is exceeding inflation. That means more disposable income in the middle-class…DUH. Which, when combined with the increased pay from lower middle-class tax rates, is exactly the intended outcome of MAGAnomics.
Today the BEA is out with consumer spending results for the first quarter that defy expectations. Consumer spending on goods increases 1.7%. Overall spending +.09 in March, reaches highest gain in ten years. The deplorables are spending their higher wages. Go figure. Meanwhile core inflation drops to 1.6%. The pundits are shocked.
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04-29-2019, 01:38 PM
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Then there is the obvious... https://theconservativetreehouse.com...w/#more-163119
MAGAnomics – Consumer Spending Up Bigly, Price Inflation Remains Low…
Posted on April 29, 2019 by sundance
The professional financial punditry can’t explain it. Flummoxed academics run around bumping into walls amid economic numbers that continue to defy expectations. All caused by a simple return to common sense ‘America First’ MAGAnomics.
Low unemployment (3.8%); wages growing (+3.2%); inflation stable (1.6%). These measures all have a cumulative impact on paycheck-to-paycheck Americans. Prices for durable goods are stable and wage growth is exceeding inflation. That means more disposable income in the middle-class…DUH. Which, when combined with the increased pay from lower middle-class tax rates, is exactly the intended outcome of MAGAnomics.
Today the BEA is out with consumer spending results for the first quarter that defy expectations. Consumer spending on goods increases 1.7%. Overall spending +.09 in March, reaches highest gain in ten years. The deplorables are spending their higher wages. Go figure. Meanwhile core inflation drops to 1.6%. The pundits are shocked.
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“Pundits” like Krugman!!!!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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04-29-2019, 01:38 PM
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If Putin sides with the DPST's - a party much more in tune with his ideology - The DPST's would lap it up and love it.
As long as hillary can arrange plausible deniability.
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Naaaahhh.... they would pick up the phone and immediately report it to the FBI!
NOT!!!
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04-29-2019, 01:43 PM
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And who is Hugh Hewitt? A very right-of-center Conservative. So is it surprising he is a firm Trump supporter? So take his comments FWIW.
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He's a conservative, but not "very right of center". You want to position him out there in order to discredit whatever he has to say.
Hewitt is actually calm and reasoned. Maybe that's why he's a frequent guest on MSNBC and CNN, whenever they try to copy FOX and offer a "fair and balanced" range of viewpoints.
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04-29-2019, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bambino
I was a skeptic about the House and said so. 40 incumbent Republicans decided not to run. That’s a big hurdle to jump. Several Blue Dog Democrats won in those districts. BTW, Trump wasn’t on the ballot.
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No, Trump was not on the ballot which is one of my reasons why Republicans should feel optimistic about Trump's re-election chances. However, mid-terms elections are ALWAYS a referendum on the sitting POTUS.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fir...ing-it-n920086
And WHY did 40 incumbent Republicans decide not to run?
"Many of those quitting have cited the highly partisan climate and Donald Trump as a reason, with one telling CNN: "I feel all I do is answer questions about Donald Trump rather than health insurance or tax policy.""
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04-29-2019, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eccielover
Yes it was, and not everyone was touting holding onto the House. The mid-term followed the normal pattern of a mid-term where the party in power either loses seats and possibly even loses control of the House. There is nothing in what happened in 2018 that predicates the POTUS election of 2020 other than it was an unusual pickup of Senate seats by the majority party of the POTUS.
Historically, good economies have led to POTUS re-elections, but the landscape can change on a dime.
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I think that the midterm elections were important in that the all important states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, which flipped red in 2016 and helped put Trump in the WH, went strong Democratic. Of course, all 3 would have to flip back blue in order for the Democratic candidate to win, unless a state like Arizona or Florida flips, which will be difficult.
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04-29-2019, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
He's a conservative, but not "very right of center". You want to position him out there in order to discredit whatever he has to say.
Hewitt is actually calm and reasoned. Maybe that's why he's a frequent guest on MSNBC and CNN, whenever they try to copy FOX and offer a "fair and balanced" range of viewpoints.
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Fair enough. I'll go with what you say. However, I sincerely doubt that Trump will coast to an easy victory in 2020. It will be close, closer than in 2016 in my opinion. But, again, a lot can happen between now and November 2020.
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04-29-2019, 03:59 PM
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And just where did you hear this bullshit? A bunch of people? Really?
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he is full of bullshit this use to be his avatar
but I guess he was tired of being laugh at
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04-30-2019, 03:29 PM
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Oh, but you were quick to label Hewitt as a right wing whack job without knowing anything about him. What a hypocrite.
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