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Old 04-23-2019, 07:43 AM   #31
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... BEFORE they wanted the "classified" portions of the Mule Report disclosed to the public since he didn't recommend prosecution of Trump!!!!



Sound familiar?

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As McGahn Emerges as Chief Witness in the Mueller Report, Trump and Allies Ramp Up Attacks




https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/u...p-attacks.html
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I’d put the probability of our next president being a Democrat at 60%. Assuming that happens, I hope and pray it’s someone reasonable like Biden and not a nutty progressive like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.
For some reason, younger voters "Feel the Bern".

I too am hoping for Biden who is definitely considered moderate and has a strong approval rating in the states that any Democratic nominee must win in order to win the election -- Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

I put it at 50-50 right now.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:06 AM   #33
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From The New York Times:

See Which Witnesses the Mueller Report Relied on Most

A partially redacted report of the special counsel’s findings released on Thursday cited interviews with 43 individuals at least 10 times.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...citations.html
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There are solid reasons why both Republicans and Democrats should be confident about their chances for victory going into the 2020 campaign.
Sill waiting to see the "solid reasons" the Dimms should feel confident, speed....

I know who the Republicans candidate will be....the Dimms….mmmmm, not so much.

Other than that minor detail....and other than that in-our-rearview-mirror phony excuse to put the president and the nation though an extensive (and expensive) investigation....what does Dimm Candidate Joe Blow tell potential voters he's gonna do for the country Other Than what the incumbent has already made good on....?....and will continue to make good on in his second term?

A wealth tax on the Super Rich?
Writing off most/all student debt?
Breaking up Google...Amazon...Facebook...?
Allowing convicted felons to vote while incarcerated and after they've been released?
Open Borders to all (especially if they enter illegally)?
Banning fossil fuels and skyscrapers?
Abolishing the Death Penalty?
Legalizing P*t?
Etc?

If (the) Dimm Candidate Joe Blow doesn't bring his / her message back closer to the center, voters (other than radical California / New York) will have little choice but to invite Donald Trump back the oval office once more in 2020....
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:36 PM   #35
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Sill waiting to see the "solid reasons" the Dimms should feel confident, speed....
In 2016 Trump won the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pa. by between .2% and 1.2% of the vote. Traditionally Democratic states. Without those 3 states Trump loses. In 2018 midterms, those states went solidly Democratic. All 3 states elected Democrats for Senator and Governor. In those 3 states, Trump's approval ratings in January 2017 were +6%, +8%, and +10% respectively. In January 2019 they were -16%, -15%, and -10%.
Democrats should feel confident that the 3 states will return to the Democratic side of the ledger in 2020.

Trump's approval ratings remains the lowest overall of any POTUS since approval ratings began with Truman. A poll taken after the Mueller document was released had Trump dropping to 37% approval, tied for the lowest since he took office. The only voting blocs that he has a solid lead in are Evangelical Christians and old, white men without a college education. Trump's approval rating before the 2018 midterms was higher than it is today and Democrats won the House popular vote by 8.6 million votes, the largest margin of victory by EITHER party since 1974. If Trump's approval rating stays where it is today, Democrats should feel very confident going into the 2020 elections.

The 3 most important concerns for voters today are (1) Health Care, (2) Immigration, and (3) The Economy. Trump and the Republicans have done zero on health care and have taken discussion of it off the table until after the 2020 election. On immigration little success is to be found.

Poll: Immigration is top concern and Democrats are winning


"Nearly eight-in-10 cited immigration as a top issue to them in the midterm congressional election and 21 percent call it the “country's most important problem,” according to Gallup.

But while that is likely driven by the president’s focus on the issue since his 2016 election and the recent government shutdown over it, the public is decidedly against Trump’s efforts to build the wall and crackdown on the illegal entry of immigrants into the U.S."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/poll-immigration-is-top-concern-and-dems-are-winning

Only when it comes to the economy can Trump say anything positive. However, if the economy falters, and many economists are predicting 2019 to be a less robust economy than 2018, Trump might take a hit here too.
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https://www.conference-board.org/data/usforecast.cfm

I'm sure that you've noticed that Trump supporters on this forum point primarily to the economy as to they Trump will be reelected in 2020. As I continue to say, there's too much water to flow under the bridge between today and election day in November 2020 to make an assessment of the election and cast it in stone. Right now either party could win.
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In 2016 Trump won the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pa. by between .2% and 1.2% of the vote. Traditionally Democratic states. Without those 3 states Trump loses. In 2018 midterms, those states went solidly Democratic. All 3 states elected Democrats for Senator and Governor. In those 3 states, Trump's approval ratings in January 2017 were +6%, +8%, and +10% respectively. In January 2019 they were -16%, -15%, and -10%.
Democrats should feel confident that the 3 states will return to the Democratic side of the ledger in 2020.

Trump's approval ratings remains the lowest overall of any POTUS since approval ratings began with Truman. A poll taken after the Mueller document was released had Trump dropping to 37% approval, tied for the lowest since he took office. The only voting blocs that he has a solid lead in are Evangelical Christians and old, white men without a college education. Trump's approval rating before the 2018 midterms was higher than it is today and Democrats won the House popular vote by 8.6 million votes, the largest margin of victory by EITHER party since 1974. If Trump's approval rating stays where it is today, Democrats should feel very confident going into the 2020 elections.

The 3 most important concerns for voters today are (1) Health Care, (2) Immigration, and (3) The Economy. Trump and the Republicans have done zero on health care and have taken discussion of it off the table until after the 2020 election. On immigration little success is to be found.

Poll: Immigration is top concern and Democrats are winning


"Nearly eight-in-10 cited immigration as a top issue to them in the midterm congressional election and 21 percent call it the “country's most important problem,” according to Gallup.

But while that is likely driven by the president’s focus on the issue since his 2016 election and the recent government shutdown over it, the public is decidedly against Trump’s efforts to build the wall and crackdown on the illegal entry of immigrants into the U.S."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/poll-immigration-is-top-concern-and-dems-are-winning

Only when it comes to the economy can Trump say anything positive. However, if the economy falters, and many economists are predicting 2019 to be a less robust economy than 2018, Trump might take a hit here too.
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https://www.conference-board.org/data/usforecast.cfm

I'm sure that you've noticed that Trump supporters on this forum point primarily to the economy as to they Trump will be reelected in 2020. As I continue to say, there's too much water to flow under the bridge between today and election day in November 2020 to make an assessment of the election and cast it in stone. Right now either party could win.
Trump will win just like Nixon did after Watergate broke to the public (the 72' shellacking) ...the underpinnings of the contrast and comparison of the parties are strangely similar to the FACT that the message from the left is too radical for the vast majority of the voters.

I would think that you being an "independent" would see this...not so much. Your hate of Trump is so consuming that you somehow support a clearly far left wing Bitten who has no views that are anything but radical. I hope your judgement isn't so clouded and consumed that this article doesn't help shed some light on your understanding of the situation.
Radical left wing ideas DON"T sell to the MAJORITY of the voters...what part of that do you not understand SPEED!!
Look at Beto shit crazy...you mentioned immigration...this FUCKER is for open borders...HIS SUPPORT IS IN FREE FALL..nice try though!!
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...-1972-election
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Trump will win just like Nixon did after Watergate broke to the public (the 72' shellacking) ...the underpinnings of the contrast and comparison of the parties are strangely similar to the FACT that the message from the left is too radical for the vast majority of the voters.

I would think that you being an "independent" would see this...not so much. Your hate of Trump is so consuming that you somehow support a clearly far left wing Bitten who has no views that are anything but radical. I hope your judgement isn't so clouded and consumed that this article doesn't help shed some light on your understanding of the situation.
Radical left wing ideas DON"T sell to the MAJORITY of the voters...what part of that do you not understand SPEED!!
Look at Beto shit crazy...you mentioned immigration...this FUCKER is for open borders...HIS SUPPORT IS IN FREE FALL..nice try though!!
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...-1972-election
So you are voting for a man who welcomed Russian help in the 2016 elections? That's pretty un American bb. Are you from Russia or do you just not care that Russia was involved in our last election? Its ok, Rudy Giuliani doesn't care either bb. You are part of the 37% crowd, the 5th Avenue crowd. Good work commrade
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So you are voting for a man who welcomed Russian help in the 2016 elections? That's pretty un American bb. Are you from Russia or do you just not care that Russia was involved in our last election? Its ok, Rudy Giuliani doesn't care either bb. You are part of the 37% crowd, the 5th Avenue crowd. Good work commrade
Again you say ABSOLUTELY nothing...
You never address the post...as always!!
Hopefully the FISA circus will be investigated for the coup attempt it was...then you and your minions can run for the hills.
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Trump will win just like Nixon did after Watergate broke to the public (the 72' shellacking) ...the underpinnings of the contrast and comparison of the parties are strangely similar to the FACT that the message from the left is too radical for the vast majority of the voters.

I would think that you being an "independent" would see this...not so much. Your hate of Trump is so consuming that you somehow support a clearly far left wing Bitten who has no views that are anything but radical. I hope your judgement isn't so clouded and consumed that this article doesn't help shed some light on your understanding of the situation.
Radical left wing ideas DON"T sell to the MAJORITY of the voters...what part of that do you not understand SPEED!!
Look at Beto shit crazy...you mentioned immigration...this FUCKER is for open borders...HIS SUPPORT IS IN FREE FALL..nice try though!!
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...-1972-election
Obama won in 2008 and 2012 with more electoral votes than Trump in 2016. Has the electorate changed that much in 6 years? In 2018 midterms Democrats won the House vote by 8.6 million votes. If voters are rejecting the ideology of the Democratic party you wouldn't know it from those results.

What part of that do you not understand BB?

Trump may win. Trump may lose. Your ranting won't change anything.

Poll: Trump beats O'Rourke, nearly ties Sanders and loses to Biden in hypothetical 2020 matchups

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-amer...es-to-biden-in

Biden leads Trump by 7 percentage points in hypothetical 2020 matchup, poll finds

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ds/3261265002/


https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-trump-812577/
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So you are voting for a man who welcomed Russian help in the 2016 elections? That's pretty un American bb.
Gee, that's odd. I thought hildebeest was the candidate who INVITED AND PAID Putin's counter-intel agents to help her in the 2016 elections! Those Russians gladly accepted her invite and produced the Steele dossier! How un-American is that, comrade?
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Obama won in 2008 and 2012 with more electoral votes than Trump in 2016. Has the electorate changed that much in 6 years? In 2018 midterms Democrats won the House vote by 8.6 million votes. If voters are rejecting the ideology of the Democratic party you wouldn't know it from those results.

What part of that do you not understand BB?

Trump may win. Trump may lose. Your ranting won't change anything.

Poll: Trump beats O'Rourke, nearly ties Sanders and loses to Biden in hypothetical 2020 matchups

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-amer...es-to-biden-in

Biden leads Trump by 7 percentage points in hypothetical 2020 matchup, poll finds

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ds/3261265002/


https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-trump-812577/
Hypothetical....Bitten being moderate...yeah right!!
Bitten has a LOT of troubles of this own...you choose to bury you head in the sand over.https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside...d-bidens-kids/
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...obe-is-revived
https://www.worldtribune.com/joe-bid...a-and-his-son/https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...raine-official

Your man got splaining to do...this fucker has no chance!!
Maybe you can be his campaign manager!!

Beto shit crazy...and one of the most important things to voters is immigration and his shining star is fading...WHY, all voters should be lapping this shit up...right speed...since it is a VERY important issue to them...what type of immigration??
The way you espouse the left should have TOTAL control of the country...WHY NOT??
I'm an independent...and you're no independent.
You said you voted for two VERY conservatives...TX Governor and Lt. Governor...and you would vote for Bitten...no similarity's what so ever!!
This country as a whole doesn't embrace SOCIALISM...PERIOD!!
Why the fuck do you think the left wants to do away with the Electoral College...it doesn't take a genius.
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Hypothetical....Bitten being moderate...yeah right!!
Bitten has a LOT of troubles of this own...you choose to bury you head in the sand over.https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside...d-bidens-kids/
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...obe-is-revived
https://www.worldtribune.com/joe-bid...a-and-his-son/
Your man got splain' to do...this fucker has no chance!!
Maybe you can be his campaign manager!!

Beto shit crazy...and one of the most important think to voters is immigration and his shining star is fading...WHY, all voters should be lapping this shit up...right speed...since it is a VERY important issue to them...what type of immigration??
The way you espouse the left should have TOTAL control of the country...WHY NOT??
I'm an independent...and you're no independent.
You said you voted for two VERY conservatives...TX Governor and Lt. Governor...and you would vote for Bitten...no similarity's what so ever!!
This country as a whole doesn't embrace SOCIALISM...PERIOD!!
why the fuck do you think the left wants to away with the Electoral College...it doesn't take a genius.
Since you have absolutely NO idea what my viewpoints are on political issues you obviously have NO idea whether I am Independent, Republican, Democratic, or other.

I'm not going to take the time to argue with you on Biden and his chances of winning the Democratic nomination and then the POTUS election. Or others. I was asked why I thought the Democratic candidate, whoever that might be, has reason to be optimistic in the 2020 election. I'd prefer you address my reasoning and why you might believe my statements are incorrect.

And, as I said way back, there are many reasons why Trump supporters should be confident in Trump's chances of winning in 2020.
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Excerpted from an editorial by Joe Lockhart, Press Secretary from 1998 to 2000.


For Democrats, leaving Donald Trump in office is not only good politics — it is the best chance for fundamental realignment of American politics in more than a generation. Mr. Trump is three years into destroying what we know as the Republican Party. Another two years just might finish it off. Trumpism has become Republicanism, and that spells electoral doom for the party.


Mr. Trump has abandoned most of the core principles that have defined Republicans for the past century. Free trade abandoned for protectionism. Challenging our adversaries and promoting democracy replaced by coddling Russia and cozying up to dictators near and far. Fiscal conservatism replaced by reckless spending and exploding deficits.


What’s left of the party is a rigid adherence to tax cuts, a social agenda that repels most younger Americans and rampant xenophobia and race-based politics that regularly interfere with the basic functioning of the federal government.



Republicans today are the party of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson — a coalition that, in the face of every demographic trend in America, will mean the long-term realignment of the federal government behind the Democrats.
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For Democrats, leaving Donald Trump in office is not only good politics — it is the best chance for fundamental realignment of American politics in more than a generation. Mr. Trump is three years into destroying what we know as the Republican Party. Another two years just might finish it off. Trumpism has become Republicanism, and that spells electoral doom for the party.


Mr. Trump has abandoned most of the core principles that have defined Republicans for the past century. Free trade abandoned for protectionism. Challenging our adversaries and promoting democracy replaced by coddling Russia and cozying up to dictators near and far. Fiscal conservatism replaced by reckless spending and exploding deficits.


What’s left of the party is a rigid adherence to tax cuts, a social agenda that repels most younger Americans and rampant xenophobia and race-based politics that regularly interfere with the basic functioning of the federal government.



Republicans today are the party of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson — a coalition that, in the face of every demographic trend in America, will mean the long-term realignment of the federal government behind the Democrats.



I'll bet you every penny you own that Sandy from the Bronx (Siakat's bitch) and the socialist/Muslim radicals destroy the Democrats before Trump destroys the Republicans.


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Excerpted from an editorial by Joe Lockhart, Press Secretary from 1998 to 2000.


For Democrats, leaving Donald Trump in office is not only good politics — it is the best chance for fundamental realignment of American politics in more than a generation. Mr. Trump is three years into destroying what we know as the Republican Party. Another two years just might finish it off. Trumpism has become Republicanism, and that spells electoral doom for the party.


Mr. Trump has abandoned most of the core principles that have defined Republicans for the past century. Free trade abandoned for protectionism. Challenging our adversaries and promoting democracy replaced by coddling Russia and cozying up to dictators near and far. Fiscal conservatism replaced by reckless spending and exploding deficits.


What’s left of the party is a rigid adherence to tax cuts, a social agenda that repels most younger Americans and rampant xenophobia and race-based politics that regularly interfere with the basic functioning of the federal government.



Republicans today are the party of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson — a coalition that, in the face of every demographic trend in America, will mean the long-term realignment of the federal government behind the Democrats.
HAHAHAHAHAHA...you are one excellent stand up comic!!
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