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Old 03-15-2019, 11:58 AM   #31
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Your bias is showing. WMD's? Firearms are tools like many other products. Many products can be used to kill multiple people and we're often lucky that the nutjobs just haven't figured it out. Vehicles can be driven into crowds anywhere....are they WMDs? Chemicals can be used directly or mixed in ways to make them much more dangerous....are they WMDs? Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it wont.


Firearms are unique....but I disagree with the reasoning above. The reason I see they are unique is that we are guaranteed a right to keep and bear them by the US Constitution. Why did the founders write that in....because they had just had a war with the most powerful nation on Earth and they had to do it with the muskets and rifles that their own people had. They used whatever they had on hand to fight off tyranny. And now, because television makes the events more sensational, people are losing their minds thinking that people are being mowed down by guns around every corner when in fact, gun violence is way down. And look at history. What has happened wherever guns have been taken away from the populace....tyranny. Venezuela's a good current example. They had their guns taken away 10 years ago...how's that working out for them. What can they do to stand up to the government that prevents food donations into the country while their people starve? People who want to take away guns do so in order to have more power over the populace. It's happened all over the world and the results are always the same. Guns are unique because they keep us free.



The basic fact is, that people need to be held accountable for their own actions. You can't blame the spoon for your being fat....it was your choice to shovel so much food in your body. You can't hold car manufacturers responsible because of drunk driving deaths...hell, we don't even let you hold the booze manufacturers or the bars responsible for that. Are there exceptions....sure....tobacco lied about the consequences of smoking. They're not responsible for you smoking but they are responsible for telling you it was much safer than it actually is. If Remington was selling the guns as non-lethal and then they were used to kill....you might have an argument. But guns are designed to kill. Everyone knows that. They didn't lie and they didn't deceive. They just sold a product that we are guaranteed permission to purchase by the founding document of the country. Suing them is pointless and foolish.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:02 PM   #32
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Is that your opinion?
No it's a fact...know the difference!!
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:07 PM   #33
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I suppose then your answer to the question is ...
Your brilliant there is no question about that
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:52 PM   #34
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Manufacturer liability is the concept behind these type of suits.
This is Part of the DPST Ideology that individuals are not responsible for themselves - Only Government because "Government Knows Best what is right for the People."
Suits like this appealed to the Ninth Circuit will likely wind up in front of the SC - as the ninth Circuit has an over 70% reversal rate in the SC.

The legal process will take years, and enrich lots of Dam_ Lawyers.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:00 PM   #35
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Manufacturer liability is the concept behind these type of suits.
This is Part of the DPST Ideology that individuals are not responsible for themselves - Only Government because "Government Knows Best what is right for the People."
Suits like this appealed to the Ninth Circuit will likely wind up in front of the SC - as the ninth Circuit has an over 70% reversal rate in the SC.

The legal process will take years, and enrich lots of Dam_ Lawyers.
Is Connecticut not in the 2nd?

The 9th actually just expanded gun rights on a case from Hawaii. They'd probably throw this one out as well.

I don't know about the 2nd.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:08 PM   #36
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Uh, just for the sake of accuracy - Remington does not and never has produced AR-15s.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:30 PM   #37
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Grean - You are right about the applicable Circuit Court of Appeal.

I was writing hypothetically.


Remington makes the R-15 - which is an AR-15 clone.

https://www.remington.com/rifles/mod...ing/model-r-15
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:11 PM   #38
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Except 2 of the 3 are made up by you and have nothing in common except someone died.
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Maybe your next headline...
Man runs over and kills wife with car...courts rules woman's family can file suit against FORD!!
Man cuts face with razor and and bleeds to death...court rules man's family can file suit against Schick!!
Sounds like a nice racket in the making...
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Except 2 of the 3 are made up by you and have nothing in common except someone died.
Munch you never came back with your links on the other thread...so your credibility is no good here...or anywhere else...nice try though
Go home troll!!
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:03 PM   #40
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Your brilliant there is no question about that
Pretty ironic to improperly use “your” while attempting to denigrate another’s intellect.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:53 PM   #41
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Stick around. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:39 PM   #42
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no!

this is a misdirected and misguided attempt to collect cash.

I don't see how they can prove marketing malfeasance against the gun company. This isn't like the Tobacco wars where they could prove causation between smoking and marketing.

the kid did not buy or own the weapon. he stole it from his parents.

eventually the courts will dismiss it.
"this is a misdirected and misguided attempt to collect cash". This isn't about MAGA Boy Sandman's parents
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Pretty ironic to improperly use “your” while attempting to denigrate another’s intellect.
I forgot the comma and the e...welcome to the thread Einstein!!
I take it you go through post after post to point out little errors...if it makes you feel good...and you have nothing better to do...pat yourself on the back!!
Why don't you go through the other 2k+ post of mine you'll most likely find more errors and you will feel even better.
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I never said that.
Correction: It was The other Lama, not you
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Grean - You are right about the applicable Circuit Court of Appeal.

I was writing hypothetically.


Remington makes the R-15 - which is an AR-15 clone.

https://www.remington.com/rifles/mod...ing/model-r-15
For clarification.
have you read this article. it really breaks it down

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