The failed democrat philosophy on gun ownership

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Your philosophy is usually bigger than the here and now. Last week I got into a conversation with a couple of colleagues, one I know pretty well and the other not at all. For starters they don't like the second amendment. I mean, they think it should be repealed or ignored.
I put it to them that I owned one rifle. I have never threatened anyone with it, it is locked away, and I have been convicted (much less accused) of a violent criminal offense. Would they take away my means to protect myself, my family, or others around me? There was a lot of back and forth about what a militia was, how far could I go to protect myself, and what about non-lethal protection but in the end both admitted that MY ownership was not a threat to their well being or society.
So I told them I actually owned more than a rifle. I own several dozen weapons including black rifles, high capacity handguns, and thousands of rounds under lock and key. They went off like shaken bottles of warm soda. No way should I be allowed more than a couple of guns, no "assault" weapons, and I had no reason to have more than only the bullets in the gun (with low capacity magazines).
I pointed out how flawed their philosophy was. One gun is safe, two guns are safe but even under the same security my real number of guns is unsafe, illogical, and should be illegal. One or a hundred, the risk is the same. They left shaking their heads. I guess that is what thinking looks like when it is in progress.

What say you?

[themystic]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Your philosophy is usually bigger than the here and now. Last week I got into a conversation with a couple of colleagues, one I know pretty well and the other not at all. For starters they don't like the second amendment. I mean, they think it should be repealed or ignored.
I put it to them that I owned one rifle. I have never threatened anyone with it, it is locked away, and I have been convicted (much less accused) of a violent criminal offense. Would they take away my means to protect myself, my family, or others around me? There was a lot of back and forth about what a militia was, how far could I go to protect myself, and what about non-lethal protection but in the end both admitted that MY ownership was not a threat to their well being or society.
So I told them I actually owned more than a rifle. I own several dozen weapons including black rifles, high capacity handguns, and thousands of rounds under lock and key. They went off like shaken bottles of warm soda. No way should I be allowed more than a couple of guns, no "assault" weapons, and I had no reason to have more than only the bullets in the gun (with low capacity magazines).
I pointed out how flawed their philosophy was. One gun is safe, two guns are safe but even under the same security my real number of guns is unsafe, illogical, and should be illegal. One or a hundred, the risk is the same. They left shaking their heads. I guess that is what thinking looks like when it is in progress.

What say you?

so not only are you a military phony but you are a liar to incite people

Troll

[nevergaveitathought]

they are feelers not thinkers

the dim party is replete with people who feel

somehow someone having many weapons feels unsafe to them

maybe they associate "many" with mental instability or something and so they feel no sane person would have them and therefore they feel unsafe with the idea

their un-thought out position is to push their beliefs on everyone, its their religion of sorts

[gnadfly]

I own several rifles and pistols and shotguns.

Economies of scale apply to the "guns make me feel safe" argument.

At some point, it just makes you a bigger target for theft, burglary or accidental shooting. Now if you are a hunter, collector, recreational shooter or rancher I can see why your number of guns would be higher.

Me, I'm trying to sell or give some of the guns away so I have more room in my closet for better guns. Unlike my wife, I don't feel I need to buy a bigger house with a bigger closet.

Some gun owners are like cat ladies, they think two dozen cats make me feel loved but three dozen cats would be even better.

[oeb11]

DPST's want to follow the Socialist -Totalitarian model of Lenin, Stalin Hitler, Mao, Castro, Maduro - and disarm the population to control them.

Hence the propaganda that simple possession of a weapon is wrong.
It is a strong opinion in Kalifornia and the Liberal coasts.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

That should be a public point. The left is always claiming that the right is trying to take away our freedoms. Who is it that is making a dictatorship more likely? The dems who want all guns taken away or the republicans who would prefer everyone who wants, be armed?

[themystic]

Originally Posted by oeb11

DPST's want to follow the Socialist -Totalitarian model of Lenin, Stalin Hitler, Mao, Castro, Maduro - and disarm the population to control them.

Hence the propaganda that simple possession of a weapon is wrong.
It is a strong opinion in Kalifornia and the Liberal coasts.

You are factually challenged pajama boy. But do remember these socialists coming up are as a result of Trump politics. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

They maybe socialists but they aren't Traitors like your cowardly party of Trump

[themystic]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

That should be a public point. The left is always claiming that the right is trying to take away our freedoms. Who is it that is making a dictatorship more likely? The dems who want all guns taken away or the republicans who would prefer everyone who wants, be armed?

we don't want to take guns away from everyone. just you losers in the military. you couldn't get the job done in Iraq, you couldn't get the job done in Afghanistan and now you are scared of a bunch of women and children at the border. your not qualified to have weapons. liberals have lots of guns and fences

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

That should be a public point. The left is always claiming that the right is trying to take away our freedoms. Who is it that is making a dictatorship more likely? The dems who want all guns taken away or the republicans who would prefer everyone who wants, be armed?

We've been through this many times on this forum. A very small handful of people in this country want all guns taken away. More on the right seem to want no restrictions at all on ownership of guns.

The majority of people on both the left and right want some level of gun control, some want strict laws and some want lenient laws, but most all want laws.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

We've been through this many times on this forum. A very small handful of people in this country want all guns taken away. More on the right seem to want no restrictions at all on ownership of guns.

The majority of people on both the left and right want some level of gun control, some want strict laws and some want lenient laws, but most all want laws.

the flamethrowers are the right, ex patriots, have to bring up stuff like this. they are to ashamed to admit they have sold their soul to the devil and going to hell

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

We've been through this many times on this forum. A very small handful of people in this country want all guns taken away. More on the right seem to want no restrictions at all on ownership of guns.

The majority of people on both the left and right want some level of gun control, some want strict laws and some want lenient laws, but most all want laws.

It's more than a handful. The problem is they are very vocal and have the lapdog media to espouse their view.

The people on the right want to hold the govt bureaucrats accountable for flaws in the existing system. As I've pointed out many times the people in the FLA that failed the shooter, the schoolkids and the public have not been held responsible for their mistakes. Nor has there been an action plan invoked to ensure the mistakes don't happen again.

The people on the left want more laws that in the end will only benefit criminals. I have several FB friends who are unabashedly for taking away all the guns in America-even the police. Only the US military would have guns.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by themystic

we don't want to take guns away from everyone. just you losers in the military. you couldn't get the job done in Iraq, you couldn't get the job done in Afghanistan and now you are scared of a bunch of women and children at the border. your not qualified to have weapons. liberals have lots of guns and fences

Move to Kalifornia and see how SomeOne fits in with the DPSTs There.

The fences are around Pelosi's houses, not at the border.
Weapons are anathema to the Kalifornia fruits and nuts. They figure MS-13 will protect them from the big, bad, evil Conservatives and Republicans.

Give Kalifornia back to the Mexican drug cartels - they are welcome to all in it.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

It's more than a handful. The problem is they are very vocal and have the lapdog media to espouse their view.

The people on the right want to hold the govt bureaucrats accountable for flaws in the existing system. As I've pointed out many times the people in the FLA that failed the shooter, the schoolkids and the public have not been held responsible for their mistakes. Nor has there been an action plan invoked to ensure the mistakes don't happen again.

The people on the left want more laws that in the end will only benefit criminals. I have several FB friends who are unabashedly for taking away all the guns in America-even the police. Only the US military would have guns.

the next thing you are going to post is that the enemy of the people is the press

youre a troll for the russians

[TheDaliLama]

Shhhh

Grownups are talking.

[oeb11]

A Free and independent Press is one of the strengths of our Constitutional system
Government control- as exemplified by Maduro and many others- is the enemy of the people
A"Weaponized" and/or government controlled media - as CNN, MSNBC, and other parroting DPST outlets - is an enemy of a free people. Like a number of posters in this forum - who cannot respond constructively to debate about issues - the opposition to freedom of speech of those with different opinion is a clear threat to a Democratic Representative Constitutional system of government.


SomeOne sees Russians under the bed,

Try watching the Alan Arkin Movie -"The Russians are Coming"!!!!