HOT Summer here to clear some things up !

[Guest083119]

I am usually looking for a credit rather than a debit...lol

But please heed biomed1's guidance and take this off the open board.

If people want to discuss references in general, have at it.

I will say, the reference fee thing is real, just not too common.

[Hot Summer]

Defending myself. The end

[tuckahoe]

Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

As far as myself, I am not reference friendly to Personal Improvement Management Professionals or members of their herds, nor will I accept their references. I’ve chosen to take a personal stance against the things that typically go on in those scenarios; violence, abuse, intimidation, coercion, blackmail, outing, and disrespectful treatment of the ladies involved. There isn’t much I can do to stop it, but I certainly won’t help enable it.

Well said!
One can only hope those involved in such will acquire a better opinion of themselves and escape from bondage.

[Mindy Magic]

Well said from a pair of Eccies most imfamous characters.


SOME PROVIDERS really feel they have full control of a clients mind and they also believe they possess the ability to manipulate them into seeing only them. Lol They will go to any lengths to persuade hobbyist (they percieve to be solely their client) against seeing other ladies including

1. NOT providing references
2. Spreading rumors and gossip
3. Talking disparagingly about
other providers during session
4. Revealing real world identities
to clients
5. Sending messages to their
Facebook friends
6. Sending rude PMs to clients
who have seen me
7. Crashing and hijacking threads
8. Using fake handles and
manipulated clients to spread
propaganda, hoping to spin
fiction into fact
9. Telling clients your are being
watched by law enforcement
10.Telling clients that u r
being abused
11.Involving their clients by
getting SOME to schedule
appointments then abruptly
cancel or write bogus reviews
12.Crashing reviews with false
information and propaganda


DOES ANY OF THIS SOUND FAMILIAR

These are only a few of the things that's I've endured in my short stint on Eccie.

This is why


I DO NOT ACCEPT REFERENCES
FROM
GINGER DOLL
OR
ANY
OF HER ASSOCIATES

Ladies it's NOT that serious, there are enough hobbyists for all of us providers. There are far easier ways to secure repeat clients. If providing an unbelievable experience, and a positive personality aren't enough, he doesn't deserve to see you again. And it's his lose.

Trying to bring another provider down only diminishes us all and further feeds into the stereotype that ALL providers are vendictive cut throats who would sale their souls for money. When in reality most providers are good girls making an honest living in what can be a dirty business. Providers slinging mud at one another only makes it dirtier.

To my sister providers, it neither diminishes nor hurts you in any way to lift a sister provider up

PS- respectfully I do not consider any provider more than twice my age, my competitor. I suspect our clientele is mostly demographically different. If that helps. Sure ive seen many NWA clients who have also seen highly reviewed providers. So if you're a provider with 550+ reviews that's bound to happen.

Wanting to see someone different, sometimes, isn't unusual. It's actually the reason, the hobby exist.


PSS
It seems that when girls escape their NWA boss lady, they magically disappear and vanish into thin air. Never to be heard from again. ABRACADABRA... But it's not MAGIC

In my defense

[Ginger Doll]

QFM

Originally Posted by Mindy Magic

Well said from a pair of Eccies most imfamous characters.


SOME PROVIDERS really feel they have full control of a clients mind and they also believe they possess the ability to manipulate them into seeing only them. Lol They will go to any lengths to persuade hobbyist (they percieve to be solely their client) against seeing other ladies including

1. NOT providing references
2. Spreading rumors and gossip
3. Talking disparagingly about
other providers during session
4. Revealing real world identities
to clients
5. Sending messages to their
Facebook friends
6. Sending rude PMs to clients
who have seen me
7. Crashing and hijacking threads
8. Using fake handles and
manipulated clients to spread
propaganda, hoping to spin
fiction into fact
9. Telling clients your are being
watched by law enforcement
10.Telling clients that u r
being abused
11.Involving their clients by
getting SOME to schedule
appointments then abruptly
cancel or write bogus reviews
12.Crashing reviews with false
information and propaganda


DOES ANY OF THIS SOUND FAMILIAR

These are only a few of the things that's I've endured in my short stint on Eccie.

This is why


I DO NOT ACCEPT REFERENCES
FROM
GINGER DOLL
OR
ANY
OF HER ASSOCIATES

Ladies it's NOT that serious, there are enough hobbyists for all of us providers. There are far easier ways to secure repeat clients. If providing an unbelievable experience, and a positive personality aren't enough, he doesn't deserve to see you again. And it's his lose.

Trying to bring another provider down only diminishes us all and further feeds into the stereotype that ALL providers are vendictive cut throats who would sale their souls for money. When in reality most providers are good girls making an honest living in what can be a dirty business. Providers slinging mud at one another only makes it dirtier.

To my sister providers, it neither diminishes nor hurts you in any way to lift a sister provider up

PS- respectfully I do not consider any provider more than twice my age, my competitor. I suspect our clientele is mostly demographically different. If that helps. Sure ive seen many NWA clients who have also seen highly reviewed providers. So if you're a provider with 550+ reviews that's bound to happen.

Wanting to see someone different, sometimes, isn't unusual. It's actually the reason, the hobby exist.


PSS
It seems that when girls escape their NWA boss lady, they magically disappear and vanish into thin air. Never to be heard from again. ABRACADABRA... But it's not MAGIC

In my defense

[Hot Summer]

With age comes wisdom ,So Hang in there baby girl.
Heres to breaking those chains

[biomed1]

Despite 2 warnings from me and an admonishment from an Admin in this Thread, the debate continued in the Open Forum.

A couple points of information, There is no need to QFM (Quote For Moderator) a post when you RTM (Report To Moderator) a post made by someone. The RTM "captures" the post and includes it in the message sent to the Staff only Section of the board.

On the Subject of "Managed" or "Pimped" providers. (Cute Definitions of an Acronym aside)
Your personal beliefs are your own.
How you choose to deal or interact with this is your personal choice.
However; when it influences your behavior on the board, then it become a matter for the Staff.
I have been asked to pass this on to the Membership in ANY forum where this is an issue.

Originally Posted by DickEmDown

I will keep it simple for all parties involved...

Do we care about or attack Pimps just for being on this site???? NO!!!!

Do we care if pimps are writing reviews for their girls or using their accounts to gain Powder Room access, etc???? YES!!!

You may pass this on Bio..

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