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Old 12-15-2018, 05:34 AM   #151
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Why did Flynn plead guilty?
who knows... lawyers are expensive.

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Shitty lawyer?
probably

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Ignorance?

If the evidence was so flimsy, why did he plead guilty?
it is flimsy. likely he was pressured into say guilty when he did not have to. again prolly bad legal advice.

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Why did Trump fire Flynn?

If I recall, it was for lying...
it may been for other things. so who knows.

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Things that make you ho hmmmmmmmmm
you got that part right.

the Hmmmmmmmmmm part is when the FBI did this:


It was arranged by then-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who personally called Mr. Flynn on other business, then suggested he sit down with two agents to clear up the Russia question. Mr. McCabe urged Mr. Flynn to conduct the interview with no lawyer present—to make things easier.


Judge Emmet Sullivan is the judge handling this case. He also oversaw the 2008 Stevens case which had a number of improper things going on with that case. there are similar parallels with flynn's case and the Stevens case.


the writer thinks this Flynn's case is illegal entrapment.



https://outline.com/GL9ZLM


Given his history with the FBI, the judge may also have some questions about the curious date on the Flynn 302—Aug. 22, 2017, seven months after the interview. Texts from Mr. Strzok and testimony from Mr. Comey both suggest the 302 was written long before then. Was the 302 edited in the interim? If so, by whom, and at whose direction? FBI officials initially testified to Congress that the agents did not think Mr. Flynn had lied.
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Old 12-15-2018, 05:59 AM   #152
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Flynn not only spilled his guts but he is continuing to spill his guts. His lawyers stupid move to pretend like " he wasn't read his rights" would be plausible except for the fact that he was the fucking NSA. On second thought that cocksucker should have gone to jail. What a punk ass bitch traitor. He sold out the US for money. Why do Republicans keep defending scum like this?
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Old 12-15-2018, 06:14 AM   #153
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who knows... lawyers are expensive.....
Relatively speaking few federal criminal cases are actually tried.

The Federal Sentencing Guidelines are no longer "mandatory," but most Federal judges follow them as concepts to assess punishment and their decisions are regularly appealed, which are reviewed by the Federal Appellate bench based on precedent and the guidelines.

Not only can the Federal judge consider the facts of the case, but can consider any and all other activities of the defendant, even if not charged (no indicted). Flynn's "military service and public service" may not be helpful with this allegation, since he might be held to a higher standard than the average citizen because of it.

As a consequence a "plea deal" is sometimes a more attractive option than risking an open plea or post-trial sentencing, which is often dependent upon the sentencing judge and/or the appellate circuit in which the Federal judge sits.

It's not always about money ... and at that level that is probably the lesser element of the decision making.

The new federal legislation may change some of that, but it's still about sentencing in the end. More so than state courts the Federal judge will look at the underlying facts of the plea deal and review the statutory and constitutional issues raised by the facts and process ... and a major concern is a review of the underlying facts vs. the statutory basis for the conviction and the due process amendments and their application ... 4th, 5th, 6th, and 14th as applicable ... and in some instances the 8th.

State courts from one state to the next are different, but I would suggest a Federal sentence for the same factual offense will be longer, if for no other reason than in the past the Federal sentence was day-for-day unless a recommendation by the Bureau of Prisons is acceptable to the Presiding Trial Judge or his/her replacement in the case. The problem in the past has primarily been the mandatory minimums and mandatory "stacking" of offenses and elements (like firearm usage) of the offense that have been imposed by Congress. (I "assume" the new Federal act is addressing those considerations.)

The recent debacle in Las Vegas regarding discovery abuses in point!

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ng/1008051001/

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Old 12-15-2018, 06:24 AM   #154
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Flynn not only spilled his guts but he is continuing to spill his guts.
Do you know this AS A FACT? If so, please explain your special knowledge and/or provide a link where the basis for your allegation can be adequately verified. Otherwise ....
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Old 12-15-2018, 09:35 AM   #155
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Do you know this AS A FACT? If so, please explain your special knowledge and/or provide a link where the basis for your allegation can be adequately verified. Otherwise ....
Read a newspaper or magazine every now and then. Or better yet watch a news show

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...ce-is-n2537008
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