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Old 12-07-2018, 11:14 AM   #31
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there is so much back and forth on this whole thing.. I hear from one side, it sounds totally plausible.. then I hear from the "other side", and that make the first report not only sound implausible, but downright corrupt. I heard Roger Stone on Laura Ingram yesterday, he sounded completely believable, yet I know some practically want him hanged for his involvement.


I'm just going to wait on Mueller's report, and discount rumors that trickle in before the report is finalized and issued. too many special interests trying to spin this thing.
That sounds much too sane for this forum.

Sadly I think when we have seen everything we are going to see, each side will still applaud the pieces they like, and denounce anything they don't like as lies.

Truth died long ago on both sides. Who is lying? Damn near everyone. I see things pro Trump and anti Trump that I know are completely misleading/incomplete "truths" and neither side of the press cares about truth any more.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:18 AM   #32
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What's Stones involvement?

The only things I believe we've credibly heard is
1) Trump fucks Stormy Daniels and paid her off and she signed a NSD that she violated
2) The FBI casually approached Manafort asked him questions and he answered not knowing the FBI had bugged his conversations.
3) Hillary paid for the Steele dossier.
4) The FBI received the dossier from DNC operatives.
5) FISA warrants were issued from phony documents
6) Top FBI/DOJ officials wanted Hillary to win, were acting on those hopes and gave favors to Hillary and her staff so they would not be held accountable for crimes against the US.
Exactly the mindset I expect: "If it make the Dems look bad, I believe it, if it makes Trump look bad, I don't. Now what did you say?"

Just as myopic and pathetic as the LWWs, who themselves get worse each day.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:11 PM   #33
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The Dali was being humorous. Robert Reich is 4' 10".

RE: Flynn. Jail time or no jail time, Flynn will be exonerated: fruit of the poisonous tree.
Yes, I want that short asshole to drown in the mud.

Fuck Robert the third Reich
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:13 PM   #34
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At least he not going to Hell like the Christians who support Tump. That's according to the Bible, not me. Btw that's Tumps favorite book
Christians who support Trump will not being going to hell for that. You go to hell for rejecting Jesus, not supporting Trump.

Trump isn't even mentioned in the Bible nor the Torah.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:19 PM   #35
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That sounds much too sane for this forum.

Sadly I think when we have seen everything we are going to see, each side will still applaud the pieces they like, and denounce anything they don't like as lies.

Truth died long ago on both sides. Who is lying? Damn near everyone. I see things pro Trump and anti Trump that I know are completely misleading/incomplete "truths" and neither side of the press cares about truth any more.
As usual, you are the voice of reason, however passe that now is.

Trump has to lie, and we have to support him, just to stop the other side from continuing to steam roll us into oblivion.

America is a lost cause, I have personally told all my grandchildren not to join the armed forces and die for this liberal shithole we call America. I have told them I will give them $14,000 per year, tax free, to not join the military.

Having said that, to those of you who served, I appreciate your service and apologize on behalf of the country which has betrayed you.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:21 PM   #36
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Exactly the mindset I expect: "If it make the Dems look bad, I believe it, if it makes Trump look bad, I don't. Now what did you say?"

Just as myopic and pathetic as the LWWs, who themselves get worse each day.
I cannot dispute what you say.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:13 PM   #37
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I cannot dispute what you say.
It is sad what’s happen to us. Do you have any hope at all? I don’t think our constitution is as bulletproof as people claim. Lots of shit needs to change. I think everyone is frustrated
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:02 PM   #38
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That sounds much too sane for this forum.

Sadly I think when we have seen everything we are going to see, each side will still applaud the pieces they like, and denounce anything they don't like as lies.

Truth died long ago on both sides. Who is lying? Damn near everyone. I see things pro Trump and anti Trump that I know are completely misleading/incomplete "truths" and neither side of the press cares about truth any more.
US Presidential politics has always been a brutal affair.

I think it is amazing the similarities in the Andrew Jackson/John Quincy Adams Presidential race and our 2016 race.

2016 seems tame in comparison.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:21 PM   #39
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It is sad what’s happen to us. Do you have any hope at all? I don’t think our constitution is as bulletproof as people claim. Lots of shit needs to change. I think everyone is frustrated
The only hope is the US Senate at this point - to counteract all the shit the House of Representatives will try to pull.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:33 PM   #40
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The only hope is the US Senate at this point - to counteract all the shit the House of Representatives will try to pull.
Yeah it’s probably going to be a lot of shit going down. It doesn’t help that republicans brought in Comey again. That’s not setting a very good example either. Shit is fucked up and there is no leadership or management. Whoever is in power just steam rolls the other. Then the other side screams can’t we all get along. Wow
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That will drive the Muslims crazy.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:16 AM   #43
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That will drive the Muslims crazy.
They already are crazy - and so is Mueller's investigation.
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Yeah it’s probably going to be a lot of shit going down. It doesn’t help that republicans brought in Comey again. That’s not setting a very good example either. Shit is fucked up and there is no leadership or management. Whoever is in power just steam rolls the other. Then the other side screams can’t we all get along. Wow
If the Democrats would roll back affirmative action/diversity, back off on the environment, only allow rich people to immigrate, lower taxes, force welfare to work like Clinton did, make voting rules even stricter, allow freedom of speech again, and make sure all new Supreme Court Judges were extremely conservative, then we could make some progress.

They should denounce Mueller, too.
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Seems Muslim men are crazy for and not against a little leg

They rape their way across Europe especially those Scandinavian women

The night before the 9/11 attack, their last meal was had at strip clubs
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