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09-02-2018, 08:44 AM
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Twitler takes more than 100,000 Kavanaugh documents off the table in time for his confirmation hearings. Can you say COVER UP?
Why would the Trump administration do such a thing?
How is this “the most transparent administration ever.”
Maybe Congress will have grounds to subpoena these documents and the Orange Sphincter as well.
Or maybe he’ll show up to a press conference with a pallet ful” of blank pages, like he did before?
Stinks to high heaven, for a change.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/01/polit...nts/index.html
Trump admin withholds 100,000-plus pages of Kavanaugh docs
(CNN) — The Trump administration will hold back more than 100,000 pages of documents related to Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh's service because the White House and the Department of Justice have determined they are protected by constitutional privilege, according to a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
William Burck, a lawyer charged by former President George W. Bush with reviewing the documents housed in the presidential library, disclosed the exemptions in a letter to Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley on Friday. Burck explained that, in all, he received just under 664,000 pages of documents and that Bush had directed him to "proceed expeditiously" and "err as much as appropriate on the side of transparency and disclosure."
Burck said he has given the committee "every reviewable" document that he received except those that fell into exemptions that included "presidential records protected by constitutional privilege."
The disclosure comes days before Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, which are slated to begin Tuesday, and intensifies a battle between Grassley, who says he has produced a record number of documents, and Senate democrats who question the review being led by lawyers for the Trump administration and Bush. Democratic senators argue that Grassley is refusing to produce documents from Kavanaugh's years serving as staff secretary in the White House from 2003 to 2006.
Where Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh stands on key issues
Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer called the decision to withhold the documents a "Friday night document massacre."
"President Trump's decision to step in at the last moment and hide 100,000 pages of Judge Kavanaugh's records from the American public is not only unprecedented in the history of Supreme Court nominations, it has all the makings of a cover up," he said in a statement.
Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee countered that Burck's letter provided a "full accounting" of Kavanaugh's records and that Grassley has expanded access to confidential material beyond that for any other Supreme Court nominee. In a release, the committee pointed out that Grassley had promised to facilitate the release of another set of documents, currently available only to members, if senators keep their requests targeted to specific documents.
White House principal deputy press secretary Raj Shah responded on Twitter to Schumer by saying that the Senate Judiciary Committee requested access to "non privileged" presidential records. "That has been satisfied to the tune of over 440,000 pages of executive branch documents, more than what was produced for the past five #Scotus nominees combined," he wrote.
Kavanaugh's confirmation is complicated by the sheer number of emails that exist during his years in the White House. In 2005, for instance, Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, a Democrat who was then in the minority, requested documents from then-chief justice nominee John Robert's service in the Office of Solicitor General during Robert's confirmation battle.
Then-Assistant Attorney General William E. Moschella wrote back that the department had determined that documents pertaining to "internal discussions" among lawyers were covered by both "deliberative process privilege" and "attorney-client privilege." But the privilege was never formally asserted.
When Starr, Kavanaugh were worried about a Clinton pardon
In his letter, Burck defined the withheld documents as those that "reflect deliberations and candid advice concerning the selection of judicial candidates" as well as advice submitted directly to Bush, substantive communications between White House staff about discussions with the President and "substantive deliberative discussions relating to or about executive orders or legislation considered by the Executive Office."
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09-02-2018, 10:54 AM
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friday night document massacre????
really Chuckie, is that the best wailing you can come up with?
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09-02-2018, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Why would the Trump administration do such a thing?
How is this “the most transparent administration ever.”
Maybe Congress will have grounds to subpoena these documents and the Orange Sphincter as well.
Or maybe he’ll show up to a press conference with a pallet ful” of blank pages, like he did before?
Stinks to high heaven, for a change.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/01/polit...nts/index.html
Trump admin withholds 100,000-plus pages of Kavanaugh docs
(CNN) — The Trump administration will hold back more than 100,000 pages of documents related to Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh's service because the White House and the Department of Justice have determined they are protected by constitutional privilege, according to a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
William Burck, a lawyer charged by former President George W. Bush with reviewing the documents housed in the presidential library, disclosed the exemptions in a letter to Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley on Friday. Burck explained that, in all, he received just under 664,000 pages of documents and that Bush had directed him to "proceed expeditiously" and "err as much as appropriate on the side of transparency and disclosure."
Burck said he has given the committee "every reviewable" document that he received except those that fell into exemptions that included "presidential records protected by constitutional privilege."
The disclosure comes days before Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, which are slated to begin Tuesday, and intensifies a battle between Grassley, who says he has produced a record number of documents, and Senate democrats who question the review being led by lawyers for the Trump administration and Bush. Democratic senators argue that Grassley is refusing to produce documents from Kavanaugh's years serving as staff secretary in the White House from 2003 to 2006.
Where Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh stands on key issues
Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer called the decision to withhold the documents a "Friday night document massacre."
"President Trump's decision to step in at the last moment and hide 100,000 pages of Judge Kavanaugh's records from the American public is not only unprecedented in the history of Supreme Court nominations, it has all the makings of a cover up," he said in a statement.
Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee countered that Burck's letter provided a "full accounting" of Kavanaugh's records and that Grassley has expanded access to confidential material beyond that for any other Supreme Court nominee. In a release, the committee pointed out that Grassley had promised to facilitate the release of another set of documents, currently available only to members, if senators keep their requests targeted to specific documents.
White House principal deputy press secretary Raj Shah responded on Twitter to Schumer by saying that the Senate Judiciary Committee requested access to "non privileged" presidential records. "That has been satisfied to the tune of over 440,000 pages of executive branch documents, more than what was produced for the past five #Scotus nominees combined," he wrote.
Kavanaugh's confirmation is complicated by the sheer number of emails that exist during his years in the White House. In 2005, for instance, Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, a Democrat who was then in the minority, requested documents from then-chief justice nominee John Robert's service in the Office of Solicitor General during Robert's confirmation battle.
Then-Assistant Attorney General William E. Moschella wrote back that the department had determined that documents pertaining to "internal discussions" among lawyers were covered by both "deliberative process privilege" and "attorney-client privilege." But the privilege was never formally asserted.
When Starr, Kavanaugh were worried about a Clinton pardon
In his letter, Burck defined the withheld documents as those that "reflect deliberations and candid advice concerning the selection of judicial candidates" as well as advice submitted directly to Bush, substantive communications between White House staff about discussions with the President and "substantive deliberative discussions relating to or about executive orders or legislation considered by the Executive Office."
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09-02-2018, 12:03 PM
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Schumer wouldn't read them anyway. His eyes will be all teared up and his vision blurred while he blubbers about getting fucked again by Trump.
Let's see: The last time Chuck snotted up the SCOTUS agreed with Trump.
Schumer keeps the role of Trump's Bitch alive. He must enjoy the good reaming he keeps getting. Beats PreparationH I guess.
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09-02-2018, 12:08 PM
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And Cynthia McCain will cast the vote that puts Kavanaugh over the top. Just give up spoilers.
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09-02-2018, 12:18 PM
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I do not want Mrs. McCain to take his place.! give it to someone else like former senator Kyl or Arpaio.
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09-02-2018, 12:19 PM
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And Cynthia McCain will cast the vote that puts Kavanaugh over the top. Just give up spoilers.
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So much for kicking Trump out of office!
Hopefully, the Governor will make his decision based upon expediency and political reality and not emotions.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...na-senate-seat
I can imagine "the Mrs" being vindictive.
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09-02-2018, 12:31 PM
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I do not want Mrs. McCain to take his place.! give it to someone else like former senator Kyl or Arpaio.
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I'm for Sheriff Joe.
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09-02-2018, 12:50 PM
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LOL! Another Fake, Fake, Fake Dim-Retard Talking Point!
To use words that were misapplied by the OP in another thread - this is "utterly fake bullshit".
The volume of documents delivered, and the level of transparency provided, for this SCOTUS nominee are unprecedented. Brett Kavanaugh has written over 300 opinions as a Circuit Court judge - that's a gold mine for anyone who is genuinely interested in the SUBSTANCE of his judicial views!
But this ain't about substance. (The OP has shown us time and time again that he is incapable of dealing with substance.) This is about STALLING the Senate vote until after the midterms. The claim of a "cover-up" of any kind is the most ludicrous and disingenuous talking point ever to roll off the lips of Cryin' Chucky Schumer!
Let's let a Good Chucky set the record straight on Cryin' Chucky's ridiculous stalling demands:
A Moment of Honesty From Chuck Schumer
He admits his mind is made up on Kavanaugh. That means his document demands are in bad faith.
By Chuck Grassley
Aug. 6, 2018 6:49 p.m. ET
Americans trust politicians about as much as they trust used-car salesmen, and it’s understandable that voters view what my colleagues and I say and do through a skeptical lens. But elected officials can also exhibit moments of exceeding honesty.
On July 10, the morning after President Trump nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said he’d oppose the nomination “with everything I’ve got.” If the weeks since are any indicator, we should believe him.
Immediately after news broke that Justice Anthony Kennedy was retiring, Democrats demanded that the president wait until the next Congress to appoint a replacement. They cited the “Biden rule,” a precedent based on then-Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Joe Biden’s 1992 pronouncement that his committee would wait until after the heated presidential election season to consider any Supreme Court nomination. This year is a midterm election year, not a presidential one. Most Democrats have abandoned the talking point, but they haven’t abandoned the goal of delaying the process.
Presumably, Mr. Schumer announced that he would oppose Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination before he read the judge’s 307 written opinions and the many other opinions he joined. Certainly, it was before he reviewed the more than 17,000 pages Judge Kavanaugh provided to the committee in response to our bipartisan questionnaire and an estimated one million pages of documents the committee has requested from the Bush White House, where Judge Kavanaugh once worked.
It stands to reason that Senator Schumer wasn’t too concerned about Judge Kavanaugh’s record before he announced his opposition. Why is it so important to Senator Schumer now?
Democratic leaders are demanding access to every page from every email and every paper record from every one of the hundreds of White House aides who came and went during the entire eight years of President Bush’s time in office. This includes records that merely mention Judge Kavanaugh’s name and records he’s never seen. That is not reasonable. As I have made clear, I will not put taxpayers on the hook for a fishing expedition.
These documents include those from Judge Kavanaugh’s time as White House staff secretary, a post that manages the paper flow into and out of the Oval Office. They are both the least relevant documents to the nomination and the most sensitive to the executive branch, two considerations that have guided previous review processes. They’re extremely sensitive because they contain policy advice that went directly to President Bush, and the policy directives that came directly from him, on the full range of presidential responsibilities, including national security.
The staff secretary is an important position, but it’s decidedly less revealing of Judge Kavanaugh’s legal thinking than his 12 years as a judge on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia and his legal service in the White House Counsel’s Office and the Office of Independent Counsel - roles in which he acted as a lawyer. The staff secretary documents consist largely of materials Judge Kavanaugh didn’t write. They were prepared by policy advisers across the executive branch. The materials are also saturated with irrelevant documents - including miscellaneous news clippings, the daily schedule, and even the White House lunch menu.
The number of pages would range in the millions, an unprecedented document dump that would take well into next year to review. And that’s exactly what Democratic leaders want and have wanted all along. Within hours after Justice Kennedy announced his retirement, Democrats telegraphed their strategy to block Mr. Trump from appointing a replacement. Their objective is to delay the confirmation process until after the midterm elections, with the hope of taking control of the Senate. My Democratic counterpart on the Judiciary Committee’s hometown newspaper, the San Francisco Chronicle, put it quite succinctly: “Feinstein, other Senate Dems have plan on Brett Kavanaugh nomination: Stall.”
So recent complaints from Mr. Schumer and other Democrats about the scope of records requests ring hollow, especially coming from senators who have already declared their opposition to Judge Kavanaugh and initially refused even to meet with him.
Democrats’ arguments have changed, but their goal hasn’t. First, it was a misrepresentation of the Biden rule - whose existence they denied in 2016. Now, it’s a manufactured document fight. Both arguments have been made with the aim of stalling the confirmation process until after midterms.
The next time you hear complaints about the Senate Judiciary Committee’s vetting process - the most extensive and transparent in history - remember Mr. Schumer’s pledge to oppose Judge Kavanaugh with everything he’s got. How much more do Democratic leaders need to know when they’re already voting no?
Mr. Grassley, an Iowa Republican, is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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09-02-2018, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Why would the Trump administration do such a thing?
They didn't. The documents are owned by the G.W. Bush Presidential Library, not trumpy. DOJ lawyers merely advised the process. And the Library released nearly 500,000 documents.
How is this “the most transparent administration ever.”
This is inarguably the most transparent SCOTUS nomination ever.
Maybe Congress will have grounds to subpoena these documents and the Orange Sphincter as well.
Good luck with that. Maybe they can subpoena your sphincter too.
Or maybe he’ll show up to a press conference with a pallet ful” of blank pages, like he did before?
Maybe the fake news media will show up to a press conference with some honest questions someday, but I won't hold my breath.
Stinks to high heaven, for a change.
Agreed. The dim-retards' phony STALLING strategy stinks to high heaven! But it's easy to see through it, and it won't work anyway. The dim-retards are just going through the motions to cover their asses with their base.
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Kavanaugh will be on the SCOTUS when the next term begins in October.
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09-02-2018, 01:58 PM
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I'm for Sheriff Joe.
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Hi, Jack!
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09-02-2018, 02:43 PM
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So how many documents does Chuckles the Clown Schumer need just to not read them and vote no? Your TDS is becoming terminal. The libtards are so desperate they're trying to get Kavanugh's wife's emails from her county job. You have ZERO hope of stopping Kavanaugh from getting appointed.
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09-02-2018, 02:53 PM
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Hi, Jack!
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cough, cough!
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09-02-2018, 05:32 PM
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I don't mind Yssup opening threads. However most of the threads he opens are just excuses to make up horrendous names for the current POTUS, Donald Trump. He continues to hurl insults at POTUS Trumps followers, Republicans thus insinuating those insults to and baiting many of the posters in this forum.
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09-02-2018, 05:37 PM
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I don't mind Yssup opening threads. However most of the threads he opens are just excuses to make up horrendous names for the current POTUS, Donald Trump. He continues to hurl insults at POTUS Trumps followers, Republicans thus insinuating those insults to and baiting many of the posters in this forum.
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well, so, he likes to troll.
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