COFFEE ?

[rexdutchman]

Okay Warning labels on COFFEE really , only from California ( idiots ) with all the bad things going on all the liberal in CA can do is warning labels on coffee.
Just like CA emissions ( us old guys remember CA cars) this is going to cost us all with high COFFEE prices

[TexTushHog]

The ruling isn't as dire as you make it sound. California has a burden shifting statute that requires sellers to prove that a substance doesn't cause cancer. The is weak evidence that acrylamid, a natural by product or roasting coffee that remains in the beverage is carcinogenic. I frankly see no harm in the warning. Nor will a warning standing alone increase prices.

Here is what the American Cancer Society says:

According to the American Cancer Society, studies have found that acrylamide increases the risk of cancer in rats and mice when the chemical is placed in the animals’ drinking water at doses “1,000 to 10,000 times higher than the levels people might be exposed to in foods.” The society doesn’t know yet how the results would translate to humans, but it suggests limiting your intake of acrylamide.

As for studies with people, the American Cancer Society notes, “Most of the studies done so far have not found an increased risk of cancer in humans. For some types of cancer, such as kidney, endometrial and ovarian cancer, the results have been mixed, but there are currently no cancer types for which there is clearly an increased risk related to acrylamide intake.”

After reading that, I would probably go ahead and drink coffee. But there is no harm in being warned.

The real concern for the Defendants is that there is also a case to be made for damages to be paid for their failure to warn in the past. Some of those sued have just gone ahead and done the logical thing and posted the warning. But those who didn't, took a big chance. We'll have to see what happens to them.

[PeterBota]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

The ruling isn't as dire as you make it sound. California has a burden shifting statute that requires sellers to prove that a substance doesn't cause cancer. The is weak evidence that acrylamid, a natural by product or roasting coffee that remains in the beverage is carcinogenic. I frankly see no harm in the warning. Nor will a warning standing alone increase prices.

Here is what the American Cancer Society says:

According to the American Cancer Society, studies have found that acrylamide increases the risk of cancer in rats and mice when the chemical is placed in the animals’ drinking water at doses “1,000 to 10,000 times higher than the levels people might be exposed to in foods.” The society doesn’t know yet how the results would translate to humans, but it suggests limiting your intake of acrylamide.

As for studies with people, the American Cancer Society notes, “Most of the studies done so far have not found an increased risk of cancer in humans. For some types of cancer, such as kidney, endometrial and ovarian cancer, the results have been mixed, but there are currently no cancer types for which there is clearly an increased risk related to acrylamide intake.”

After reading that, I would probably go ahead and drink coffee. But there is no harm in being warned.

The real concern for the Defendants is that there is also a case to be made for damages to be paid for their failure to warn in the past. Some of those sued have just gone ahead and done the logical thing and posted the warning. But those who didn't, took a big chance. We'll have to see what happens to them.

Here’s what PeterBota says. Fuck California

[rexdutchman]

Oh I drink coffee( a lot) but thanks to the idiots the price will go up , warning on it all not just in CA will go up . just saying I am with you fuck them

[CG2014]

Then they need to put warning label on any food cooked over fire because the process of grilling over fire creates chemicals in the meat that causes cancer.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/...ats-fact-sheet

Which by the way, I LOVE my BBQ ribs and briskets and nice steaks cooked over a hot sizzling fire.

NO fucking liberals democrats in California with their stupid warning labels is going to take that away from me.

[pyramider]

Make a bet on that?

[winn dixie]

Flash, this just in from a reliable source!!

California has found that licking or looking at taint causes cancer!!

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Oh I drink coffee( a lot) but thanks to the idiots the price will go up , warning on it all not just in CA will go up . just saying I am with you fuck them

Why would the price go up? If the warning label is effective, demand will be reduced and the price will go down.

[rexdutchman]

Yup warning labels on cigarette s HELPPED ???? and the price went downnnnn

[TexTushHog]

The price of cigarettes didn't go up because of warning labels. The price of cigarettes went up probably 15 years after the warning labels went on (1966) because of one of the most successful public health campaigns in history. Through a combination of taxes, public education, and law suits by States to recoup Medicare and Medicaid funds, the price of cigarettes was increased and their consumption was dramatically cut.

Had State legislative bodies not largely insulated tobacco companies from wrongful death suits, they would have gone the way of the asbestos companies. When I was cleaning out my original office when I scaled down to smaller quarters for my semi-retirement recently, I came across about six or eight bankers boxes of materials I had from the early 1980's on lung cancer cigarette cases that were being planned. Sadly, almost every State gave immunity to the tobacco industry and they were spared the fate that they richly deserved. But maybe one day.

But back to the original point, here is a graph on the stunning success of what has happened to tobacco consumption.

[rexdutchman]

So consumption down , prices up started by warnings that the gov started. ( not going to argue the good or bad of the studys ) But that's the overall point price increase.

[TexTushHog]

I apparently didn't make my point clearly. The price went up because of taxes designed to cut consumption. Not because of warnings or decreases in demand. Those would both tend to lower prices.

[rexdutchman]

Warnings lead to tax s because gov.com liberal need to save us from evil ! Now more coffee ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,