Why is Using Guns to Kill Black People in Chicago Okay with Liberals.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Stick around. This forum is dying for an intelligent liberal. We could finally see some good debates.

Lusty can you show me a single thread where you and youre ilk conceded a single point? I honestly cant find any. You boys are Never Wrong about anything in youre view.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by themystic

You boys .....

Small wonder with an attitude like that!

Speedo and you can have an "interesting" discussion.

He doesn't like Texas either, even though he chooses to live here.

He wants to make it "better" .. which means like what he left.

I think the Muslims want to do that also.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Small wonder with an attitude like that!

Speedo and you can have an "interesting" discussion.

He doesn't like Texas either, even though he chooses to live here.

He wants to make it "better" .. which means like what he left.

I think the Muslims want to do that also.

Have you ever answered a question directly Lex?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Small wonder with an attitude like that!

Speedo and you can have an "interesting" discussion.

He doesn't like Texas either, even though he chooses to live here.

He wants to make it "better" .. which means like what he left.

I think the Muslims want to do that also.

Lying again. I enjoy living in Texas. There are some things I don't like about Texas but overall I can live with what I consider to be those negatives. There are many places in Texas where I most certainly could not live but that would be true of any state.

I moved here for a number of reasons -- the weather, no income tax, lower cost of living (especially cost of homes).

So stop lying when you obviously don't have any idea what you are talking about. And yet you accuse others of making assumptions about YOUR life.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by themystic

Have you ever answered a question directly Lex?

Somehow his dislike for me overwhelms his thought processes. I am flattered.

[grean]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

#2: Rumor has it they all ready have "strong" anti-gun laws locally and statewide,.

LL, geez, it's not Chicago's fault. It's all Texas' fault because criminals smuggle guns from Texas into Chicago.

Only if every state passes extreme gun control laws so they can't get guns from anywhere, then will Chicago be able to get violence under control. That's their line.


Ha!

Maybe if we were on an island. We could do it for Hawaii. Hawaii could be gun free.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Lying again. I enjoy living in Texas. There are some things I don't like about Texas but overall I can live with what I consider to be those negatives.

Another lie! Or were you lying back then?

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

The current counter argument I'm seeing on FB is "What aboutism." They simply don't want to hear it and think it is a distraction from the reality. It's almost as if they want black people to kill black people in Chicago. "It's a rite of passage." "A black thang." "You're not capable of understanding." I'm surprised a black pundit hasn't attributed it to the currently popular excuse "tribal politics."

I guess we need to give Sistine Chapel time.

Either that, or they feel those making correlations to chi-raq, are making ILLOGICAL fallicies.. Or straw-man arguments..

Originally Posted by blueandgreen

Liberals and the like minded ARE outraged by the daily toll gun violence causes, particularly in minority populations. Mass shootings make up a statistically insignificant portion of gun violence, but they make up all of the coverage because people give a shit about death when it's entertaining. Of course proponents of restricting access to certain types of firearms/background checks/a national system for gun registry are going to bring this up when the public's attention is fixed on a mass shooting. Just like the conservative NRA does in the opposite direction.

And if you note, they always use these shootings to say "SEE, we need to outlaw assault weapons".. WHEN IN MOST of these shootings, PISTOLS are the most common weapon used by far..

Originally Posted by gnadfly

As an NRA member, CHL holder and gun owner I'd like to dispel the myth that the NRA wants crazy people and criminals to own guns.

We don't.

We want the current gun laws enforced before more are tacked on. Also, we want the current background check database accurately and timely updated.

Exactly.. As i keep pointing out. 99% OF THESE SHOOTINGS had killers who got their guns USING all the current laws on the books.. SO NO new laws would have stopped them.. BUT a # of them COULD HAVE been prevented, had the laws actually been enforced in regards to their mental health, in forcing the providers to alert the cops, which in turn would have flagged them and prevented them from legally buying the guns they used...

What they don't (and imo) NEVER understand. WHAT good is making up yet MORE laws, when the ones we already have, are often just IGNORED or not enforced enough?

I mean how many times have we heard of this or that crook arrested for a crime, carrying a weapon that LEGALLY they are not allowed to own. BUT rather than severely punish them, they are 'revolving door' back out on the street in a few short months/years...?!?!?!

Originally Posted by blueandgreen

They actively lobby nearly every major political figure to stifle any form of gun control, which results in a national discussion about the issue being tabled. Since you were allowed to present unrelated anecdotes I'll make my own unrelated analogy: this issue is the new Congressional gag rule from the antebellum period.

BUT what laws are the left wanting, that would actually stop these killings?? The only one, is 'confiscation of weaponry'.. And that is something EVERYONE should be against..

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by grean

LL, geez, it's not Chicago's fault.

Of course it's not "Chicago's fault"! It's the "guns' fault"!

Tonight a whole bunch of "guns" will crawl out onto the streets after dark, load themselves with rounds, point themselves at some poor unsuspecting person, and pull their own trigger!

The other "guns" watching the event will not alert "authorities" and the unsuspecting victim will bleed out from the wound and die! The guns will return home and repeat tomorrow night! They have a "bottomless" supply of rounds.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Somehow his dislike for me overwhelms his thought processes. I am flattered.

Why do I get the impression you are expressing your own feelings?

How long has it been since you kicked someone's ass ...

... besides your own, of course?

[AdamBomB]

Guns or no guns death will go on . If guns were outlawed vehicles would likely be the next most likely choice for mass misery . Then we'd be debating about more vehicle control . The world is getting crazier and crazier and in a nation of 323 million people it's a wonder that it's not worse than it already is . Some crazy adult or kid with mental problems who's set on killing people will find another way if he can't get a gun . I feel so bad for all the lives lost and destroyed when something like this happens . The thing is that kid would have found another way , perhaps mowing down even more kids with a big SUV etc right as school was letting out . 323 million Americans . No telling the defective rate in that many people .

Today's society is more to blame than a gun is , or an SUV even . We are decayed and corrupt as a nation and society and probably beyond repair no matter what's banned or not banned . We all just hurl our feeble thoughts and opinions as if we know just what to do to correct it . Who knows who's right and wrong anymore .

Washington stays almost split down the middle and can't get anything done . How is it half of congress knows all the solutions and the other side are complete idiots .Political parties suck dicks anyways .The whole business is programmed to make the other party fall on it's face . How is that good for one country when two stupid parties are in a never ending war to destroy and wipe out the other .It's beyond our state of decay to correct shit anymore . We can only hope to prolong the agony for awhile , maybe just maybe .

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by garhkal

Either that, or they feel those making correlations to chi-raq, are making ILLOGICAL fallicies.. Or straw-man arguments..



And if you note, they always use these shootings to say "SEE, we need to outlaw assault weapons".. WHEN IN MOST of these shootings, PISTOLS are the most common weapon used by far..



Exactly.. As i keep pointing out. 99% OF THESE SHOOTINGS had killers who got their guns USING all the current laws on the books.. SO NO new laws would have stopped them.. BUT a # of them COULD HAVE been prevented, had the laws actually been enforced in regards to their mental health, in forcing the providers to alert the cops, which in turn would have flagged them and prevented them from legally buying the guns they used...

What they don't (and imo) NEVER understand. WHAT good is making up yet MORE laws, when the ones we already have, are often just IGNORED or not enforced enough?

I mean how many times have we heard of this or that crook arrested for a crime, carrying a weapon that LEGALLY they are not allowed to own. BUT rather than severely punish them, they are 'revolving door' back out on the street in a few short months/years...?!?!?!



BUT what laws are the left wanting, that would actually stop these killings?? The only one, is 'confiscation of weaponry'.. And that is something EVERYONE should be against..

This was an instance that was avoidable. LE fell on its face and failed to act when given the bald evidence to act. The Fumbling Bumbling Idiots have been sniffing too many Russian mattresses for whore piss.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by themystic

Lusty can you show me a single thread where you and youre ilk conceded a single point? I honestly cant find any. You boys are Never Wrong about anything in youre view.

Sure I can. Here are a couple.

There are more posts like these than there are useful or grammatically error-free posts by you!

https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=105...0&postcount=49

https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=105...9&postcount=29

Whether or not a point is conceded is not necessarily the measure of a good debate. It's whether each side is able to articulate, sharpen and advance arguments and counter-arguments.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

This was an instance that was avoidable. LE fell on its face and failed to act when given the bald evidence to act.

I have to admit I've not been glued to the TV for updates (even if the reports were factual), but I did hear a special agent discussing what the FBI "knew" and didn't know before the shooting.

So when you say "LE" was "given the bald evidence" upon which they could "act" I am not quite sure to what you are referencing.

Generally speaking the same folks complaining about LE "not acting" based upon information revealed POST-EVENT are the same crowd complaining about LE acting in the absence of current, real time information that would legally support LE taking any action!

Current event example: How many pundits over the past year have repeatedly claimed Trump was "mentally ill" (as well as other defective mental conditions) based on his tweets, speeches, and press conference responses ... or in some cases THE LACK OF SAYING ANYTHING!!! ...

.. then a military physician (who has examined at least one other President) examines him and determines he is mentally competent?

IMO anyone who slaughters innocent people in the manner that has been happening has "mental issues" but that doesn't automatically retrospectively support LE action or a criticism of no LE action. Mental and emotional problems are not "science" like DNA. It's OPINION!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by themystic

Have you ever answered a question directly Lex?

Do you know how to ask questions that can be answered without your sneaky insertion of your personal beliefs and biases inserted in them?

Since we have no "referee" calling the "balls and strikes" I just ignore that shit or I will call you out on it.

Now your buddy, Speedo, like a lot of other lamesters on here, simply calls his own "balls and strikes" ... whether he's pitching or batting ... That's a Liberal thing I've noticed.

After you finish that ESL course, apply to a school where you can learn to ask proper questions in proper form.