Memo released

[gfejunkie]

Nobody ever said that draining the swamp was going to be pretty.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WTF

That is one way to look at it IB , I do not see it that way. #1

Plus there was not one thing in the memo that was not already discussed on all three cable news channels.#2

As for #1 .. who cares?

As for #2 ... the information has been "discussed," but how? The Anti-Trumpers/Liberals have been dismissing the allegations as being "unfounded" and "false" without any basis. Now there's a "basis" and if it is "false" it is so because of the FBI and the DOJ under the Obaminable Administration.

Trump was informed before and immediately after the election that he, his family, and his campaign/transition teams were being "eavesdropped" upon and he was called "delusional" and "paranoid" for making the accusations.

It looks like the only "delusional" ones were those claiming he was delusional and paranoid! Either that are they KNEW and their just fucking LIARS.

That's why the Democrats didn't want the information released: it exposed their bullshit narrative about Trump as being just that: BULLSHIT NARRATIVE.

We just had PROOF of the "atmosphere" within the Federal LE agencies and prosecutors during the Obaminable Administration in order to obtain criminal charges and a conviction: The Nevada Federal Court prosecution of the RANCHERS over the land dispute. The practice was: LIE and WITHHOLD EXCULPATORY INFORMATION.

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Keep sucking on those "roots", Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

You are one dumb clusterfuck.

Originally Posted by Hotrod511

That is a perfect pic of you two ekims.
iB ekim, and the Jewish lawyer ekim.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by gfejunkie

Nobody ever said that draining the swamp was going to be pretty.

But it's LOVELY!

The frogs who dreamed of being a prince are quite noisy!

That's why the Democrats didn't want the information released: it exposed their bullshit narrative about Trump as being just that: BULLSHIT NARRATIVE.

We just had PROOF of the "atmosphere" within the Federal LE agencies and prosecutors during the Obaminable Administration in order to obtain criminal charges and a conviction: The Nevada Federal Court prosecution of the RANCHERS over the land dispute. The practice was: LIE and WITHHOLD EXCULPATORY INFORMATION.

[LexusLover]

Since this THREAD is ABOUT THE MEMO ...

.... discussing the perjerous FISA warrant application:

50 U.S. Code § 1804 - Applications for court orders

(a) Submission by Federal officer; approval of Attorney General; contentsEach application for an order approving electronic surveillance under this subchapter shall be made by a Federal officer in writing upon oath or affirmation to a judge having jurisdiction under section 1803 of this title. Each application shall require the approval of the Attorney General based upon his finding that it satisfies the criteria and requirements of such application as set forth in this subchapter. It shall include—

(1) the identity of the Federal officer making the application;
(2) the identity, if known, or a description of the specific target of the electronic surveillance;
(3) a statement of the facts and circumstances relied upon by the applicant to justify his belief that—
(A) the target of the electronic surveillance is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; and
(B) each of the facilities or places at which the electronic surveillance is directed is being used, or is about to be used, by a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power;

(4) a statement of the proposed minimization procedures;
(5)
a description of the nature of the information sought and the type of communications or activities to be subjected to the surveillance;
(6)a certification or certifications by the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, an executive branch official or officials designated by the President from among those executive officers employed in the area of national security or defense and appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, or the Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, if designated by the President as a certifying official—
(A)
that the certifying official deems the information sought to be foreign intelligence information;
(B)
that a significant purpose of the surveillance is to obtain foreign intelligence information;
(C)
that such information cannot reasonably be obtained by normal investigative techniques;
(D)
that designates the type of foreign intelligence information being sought according to the categories described in section 1801(e) of this title; and
(E)including a statement of the basis for the certification that—
(i)
the information sought is the type of foreign intelligence information designated; and
(ii)
such information cannot reasonably be obtained by normal investigative techniques;
(7)
a summary statement of the means by which the surveillance will be effected and a statement whether physical entry is required to effect the surveillance;
(8)
a statement of the facts concerning all previous applications that have been made to any judge under this subchapter involving any of the persons, facilities, or places specified in the application, and the action taken on each previous application; and
(9)
a statement of the period of time for which the electronic surveillance is required to be maintained, and if the nature of the intelligence gathering is such that the approval of the use of electronic surveillance under this subchapter should not automatically terminate when the described type of information has first been obtained, a description of facts supporting the belief that additional information of the same type will be obtained thereafter.
(b)ADDITIONAL AFFIDAVITS OR CERTIFICATIONS
The Attorney General may require any other affidavit or certification from any other officer in connection with the application.
(c)ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
The judge may require the applicant to furnish such other information as may be necessary to make the determinations required by section 1805 of this title.
(d)PERSONAL REVIEW BY ATTORNEY GENERAL
(1)
(A)
Upon written request of the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State, the Director of National Intelligence, or the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Attorney General shall personally review under subsection (a) an application under that subsection for a target described in section 1801(b)(2) of this title.
(B)
Except when disabled or otherwise unavailable to make a request referred to in subparagraph (A), an official referred to in that subparagraph may not delegate the authority to make a request referred to in that subparagraph.
(C)
Each official referred to in subparagraph (A) with authority to make a request under that subparagraph shall take appropriate actions in advance to ensure that delegation of such authority is clearly established in the event such official is disabled or otherwise unavailable to make such request.
(2)
(A)If as a result of a request under paragraph (1) the Attorney General determines not to approve an application under the second sentence of subsection (a) for purposes of making the application under this section, the Attorney General shall provide written notice of the determination to the official making the request for the review of the application under that paragraph. Except when disabled or otherwise unavailable to make a determination under the preceding sentence, the Attorney General may not delegate the responsibility to make a determination under that sentence. The Attorney General shall take appropriate actions in advance to ensure that delegation of such responsibility is clearly established in the event the Attorney General is disabled or otherwise unavailable to make such determination.
(B) Notice with respect to an application under subparagraph (A) shall set forth the modifications, if any, of the application that are necessary in order for the Attorney General to approve the application under the second sentence of subsection (a) for purposes of making the application under this section.
(C) Upon review of any modifications of an application set forth under subparagraph (B), the official notified of the modifications under this paragraph shall modify the application if such official determines that such modification is warranted. Such official shall supervise the making of any modification under this subparagraph. Except when disabled or otherwise unavailable to supervise the making of any modification under the preceding sentence, such official may not delegate the responsibility to supervise the making of any modification under that preceding sentence. Each such official shall take appropriate actions in advance to ensure that delegation of such responsibility is clearly established in the event such official is disabled or otherwise unavailable to supervise the making of such modification.

Oops! Right to the Obaminable Appointees, including the AG, who met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac to "discuss family matters"!

50 U.S. Code § 1805 - Issuance of order

(h) Retention of certifications, applications and orders

Certifications made by the Attorney General pursuant to section 1802(a) of this title and applications made and orders granted under this subchapter shall be retained for a period of at least ten years from the date of the certification or application.

OOPS!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

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.... discussing the perjerous FISA warrant application:

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So you predicate that there was perjury. Hmmmmm

[themystic]

Donald the Red is scared shitless. Whatever he’s so scared of is reall “ Huge. Big time”. Putin has embarrassed an American president. Most bullies like Trump are really just big pussies. Seems to be the cas with Fat Fuck Trump. Anyone notice still no sanctions on the Russians. I’m glad For Russian citizens but politically it’s just like Trump voters, Un American, cowards.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WTF

So you predicate that there was perjury. Hmmmmm

You didn't read the statute, did you?

Or is it that you don't understand the words you're looking at.

Generally speaking I've heard it asked this way on cross ...

"Were you lying then or are you lying now!"

"Perjury" is the least offensive crime if the content of the memo on the factual record holds true. What the statute discloses is:#1 there are a lot of "pre-approvals" that are documented before the application was submitted and #2 BY LAW the documents are still there.

Like Bill Clinton found out .... Federal Judges do not appreciate "officers of the court" lying to them or even "misrepresenting" facts to them in order to obtain a ruling or order (ex parte I might add) favorable to the person lying or "misrepresenting"!

A more recent example is the Nevada Federal Judge in the rancher case.

Like I said: I'm most willing to wait out for the Judge's remarks ... and a disclosure of the record of the Court proceedings at which and during which verbal questions and remarks were recorded for the original app and extensions.

And before you get too far off into the high weeds you might want to brush up on the legal standard for "probable cause" and the necessary standard expressed in a search warrant affidavit to establish "probable cause."

Then do a review of the current SCOTUS Justices and do an inventory on how you think they'll come out on the issue. Justice Thomas seems to write well for the majority on the subject matter as a strict constructionist but empathetic to the plight of LE in the real world .. and not TV land.

The "extensions" are critical in the judicial analysis, because each approach for an extension gave the requesting agents and authorities another opportunity to correct any incorrect prior representation once there was an opportunity for reflection and discussion in the "secret society" meetings, even if after fucking each other!

(The "correction" opportunity, BTW, is the philosophical foundation for one avoiding a perjury prosecution if one "corrects" the record before the proceeding has terminated ... which a fair reading would be ... "during the extension period" .... !!!)

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by themystic

Donald the Red is scared shitless.

Melania will forgive him if he really did fuck the porn star!

She probably is just really pissed because he did tell her.

Oh, yea. As far as "sanctions" you and WTF need to compare notes ... or were you parroting what he said? Trump did "sanction" the Russians ... don't get him confused with Obaminable ... he's the one who didn't!

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by gfejunkie

Nobody ever said that draining the swamp was going to be pretty.

Exactly. However I didn't know there would be GOP swamp creatures as bad as any liberal swamp rats.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

However I didn't know there would be GOP swamp creatures as bad as any liberal swamp rats.

You didn't?



Were you hanging too much at "the lodge" in your apron?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by WTF

That is one way to look at it IB , I do not see it that way.

Plus there was not one thing in the memo that was not already discussed on all three cable news channels.

The IG’s report will explain it to you. It will make things crystal clear. But you will still ignore the truth. You’re not very bright.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by bambino

The IG’s report will explain it to you. It will make things crystal clear. But you will still ignore the truth. You’re not very bright.

They way he tries to "look bright" is to attempt to marginalize what others say or post by "cherry picking" select words, ignoring the "context" and other posts they have made ... and then chastising them with insults! He still engages in elementary school playground tactics.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by WTF

...

The way they were acting there was some bomb in there, was not eating a Smoking Gun

Your slip is showing Dr Freud.

Originally Posted by garhkal

And since teh whole russia investigation by Mueller is PREDICATED on that dossier and the fisa warrants, then imo it needs to be disbanded.. AND THE JUDGE On the FISA court needs to be disbarred for giving the warrants for something like this, BASED ON Such flawed info..

That's something the Republicans are regretting right now. They also voted for it. Then again it took this investigation to get the bank records to prove it was paid for by the DNC.

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Was the judge aware? If the judge knew then their ass should go into the chipped. If not, I suspect the judge might be rightfully passed.

Supposedly the FBI didn't tell him even though they knew. But according to WTF, its been all over cable news! BTW, theconvervativetreehouse has been pointing to a FISA judge who recused himself in very suspicious circumstances. I'll post a thread later.

Originally Posted by WTF

That is one way to look at it IB , I do not see it that way.

Plus there was not one thing in the memo that was not already discussed on all three cable news channels.

Yeah, but this gets it discussed on all three major networks. Or does it outside MTP like shows? I don't see anything about it on my Facebook trending nor do I see anything on Yahoo!News how an agent was able to plant a story on Yahoo!News. Interesting.

Originally Posted by bambino

The IG’s report will explain it to you. It will make things crystal clear. But you will still ignore the truth. You’re not very bright.

Did the IG's report send Louis Lerner to jail?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

I don't see anything about it on my Facebook trending nor do I see anything on Yahoo!

Noticed that too. Yesterday, it took Zuckerberg over five hours to let a link to the actual memo show up on "trending," but McCain's response was trending almost immediately after he made his comment. Today: nothing about it at all is trending on Facebook.





Go suck your boyfriend's banana, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.