The Senate tax bill eliminates the ACA individual mandate.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

You don't want the health insurance system to work for everyone, just those who don't have a pre-existing condition. So, if the health insurance company weeds out someone with a pre-existing condition that is okay as long as you benefit from it( with a lower premium that you can afford to pay on your own). The point that I tried to make a couple of posts ago is that the people who could pay their premium on there own because the health insurance companies discriminated against people with pre-existing conditions and kept them out of the risk pool.

Your stupid, dim-retard ass can't understand that the government penalizing one group for the problems of another group isn't "social justice", flighty. You're too stupid to realize that your socialism doesn't raise people so much as it takes everyone to the lowest common denominator, flighty. The needs of the few in no manner trump the needs of the many, flighty.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Your stupid, dim-retard ass can't understand that the government penalizing one group for the problems of another group isn't "social justice", flighty. You're too stupid to realize that your socialism doesn't raise people so much as it takes everyone to the lowest common denominator, flighty. The needs of the few in no manner trump the needs of the many, flighty.

Earth to Hankering, Earth to Hankering wake up. The health insurance companies in the private sector should not have been allowed to weed out people with pre-existing conditions in the first place. Hankering, you really should stop taking those mind altering substances.

A person with pre-existing conditions should be allowed to purchase health insurance in the individual market. It's that simple.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Earth to Hankering, Earth to Hankering wake up. The health insurance companies in the private sector should not have been allowed to weed out people with pre-existing conditions in the first place. Hankering, you really should stop taking those mind altering substances.

A person with pre-existing conditions should be allowed to purchase health insurance in the individual market. It's that simple.

You're the one living in the fucking fantasy world, flighty. The health insurance industry is a capitalist enterprise of relatively recent origin in human history, and your dim-retard notion that it is a fucking divine birth-right to be financed by others is complete and utter bullshit, flighty.

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You're the one living in the fucking fantasy world, flighty. The health insurance industry is a capitalist enterprise of relatively recent origin in human history, and your dim-retard notion that it is a fucking divine birth-right to be financed by others is complete and utter bullshit, flighty.

Can't wait until this fuck tard I B Dip shit gets a pre existing condition and can't get insurance. Wait that won't happen cause of OawesomeCare.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by royamcr

Can't wait until this fuck tard I B Dip shit gets a pre existing condition and can't get insurance. Wait that won't happen cause of OawesomeCare.

It just may be that any pre-existing condition of IB will be covered, because he continued in a job/vocation that provided him group insurance upon his retirement as part of his retirement package and that he won't be competing for your Government Subsidy, if there is one by the end of 2018!

Gainful Employment has it's REWARDS!

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You're the one living in the fucking fantasy world, flighty. The health insurance industry is a capitalist enterprise of relatively recent origin in human history, and your dim-retard notion that it is a fucking divine birth-right to be financed by others is complete and utter bullshit, flighty.

That's right the health insurance is a capitalist enterprise. However, there should be a level playing field for everyone. The health insurance companies can still make a profit selling insurance to people with pre-existing conditions. By the way, the health insurance companies do not have to sell health insurance in the individual market. If they choose to do so they can't weed out people with pre-existing conditions anymore. United Health Care decided they don't want to sell health insurance in the individual market anymore, but BCBS and others continue to do so.

Interesting that you did not have a problem with RomneyCare which had the individual mandate for the state of Mass. We all know who was governor when that went in (Republican Mitt Romney). Keep talking Hankering, let's hear some more of your other theories on Capitalism. LOL.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

It just may be that any pre-existing condition of IB will be covered, because he continued in a job/vocation that provided him group insurance upon his retirement as part of his retirement package and that he won't be competing for your Government Subsidy, if there is one by the end of 2018!

Gainful Employment has it's REWARDS!

If IB has been in the military for as long as he has stated, then he will get his health care from the VA (a government run system paid for by the taxpayer). He is not getting group health insurance in the private sector. You keep talking/writing too LL. LOL.

[StandinStraight]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

It just may be that any pre-existing condition of IB will be covered, because he continued in a job/vocation that provided him group insurance upon his retirement as part of his retirement package and that he won't be competing for your Government Subsidy, if there is one by the end of 2018!

Gainful Employment has it's REWARDS!

Your post is a classic example of ignorance. You are the perfect example of someone that is simply not a nice person. You really need to think about what a asshole you are and consider just shutting up.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

upon his retirement as part of his retirement package and that he won't be competing for your Government Subsidy, if there is one by the end of 2018!

Gainful Employment has it's REWARDS!

If he retires at age 65 he will be on Medicare, a government run system paid for by the taxpayer.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by royamcr

Can't wait until this fuck tard I B Dip shit gets a pre existing condition and can't get insurance. Wait that won't happen cause of OawesomeCare.

Won't happen, jackass. Go back to hiding under your rock, U B dipshit.

Originally Posted by flghtr65

That's right the health insurance is a capitalist enterprise. However, there should be a level playing field for everyone. The health insurance companies can still make a profit selling insurance to people with pre-existing conditions. By the way, the health insurance companies do not have to sell health insurance in the individual market. If they choose to do so they can't weed out people with pre-existing conditions anymore. United Health Care decided they don't want to sell health insurance in the individual market anymore, but BCBS and others continue to do so.

Interesting that you did not have a problem with RomneyCare which had the individual mandate for the state of Mass. We all know who was governor when that went in (Republican Mitt Romney). Keep talking Hankering, let's hear some more of your other theories on Capitalism. LOL.

Better capitalism than socialism, you dithering jackass. And your socialist-ass never answered the question, "Where's the "social justice" for those who were paying their own way until Odumbocare made it too expensive for them," flighty?

Originally Posted by flghtr65

If IB has been in the military for as long as he has stated, then he will get his health care from the VA (a government run system paid for by the taxpayer). He is not getting group health insurance in the private sector. You keep talking/writing too LL. LOL.

You're just too damn stupid and indoctrinated to realize how Odumbocare universally fucked up healthcare for the other 90% living in this country, flighty.

[flghtr65]

Better capitalism than socialism, you dithering jackass. And your socialist-ass never answered the question, "Where's the "social justice" for those who were paying their own way until Odumbocare made it too expensive for them," flighty?


You're just too damn stupid and indoctrinated to realize how Odumbocare universally fucked up healthcare for the other 90% living in this country, flighty.[/QUOTE]

You don't understand basic underwriting concepts of probability and risk. It is not socialist to have health insurance companies be required to sell health insurance to someone with pre-existing conditions in the individual market. They do in the employer group health insurance market. The premium prices for policies being sold today are a reflection of what the real true risk is for what the health insurance companies are taking on. There are many republicans who like the fact that people with pre-existing conditions cannot be denied the chance to purchase health insurance.

I am not a socialist, your dumb ass does not understand the concept of a risk pool. The health insurance companies are collecting premiums and paying out claims, that did not change with the ACA. The health insurance companies just can't weed out people with pre-existing conditions anymore. The health insurance system for the USA is still a private sector system (until you reach the age of 65 and you go on Medicare).

Last but not least. In the USA the means of production is not controlled by the state. Therefore, the socialist tag simply does not apply. You are a fucking MORON.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

You don't understand basic underwriting concepts of probability and risk. It is not socialist to have health insurance companies be required to sell health insurance to someone with pre-existing conditions in the individual market. They do in the employer group health insurance market. The premium prices for policies being sold today are a reflection of what the real true risk is for what the health insurance companies are taking on. There are many republicans who like the fact that people with pre-existing conditions cannot be denied the chance to purchase health insurance.

I am not a socialist, your dumb ass does not understand the concept of a risk pool. The health insurance companies are collecting premiums and paying out claims, that did not change with the ACA. The health insurance companies just can't weed out people with pre-existing conditions anymore. The health insurance system for the USA is still a private sector system (until you reach the age of 65 and you go on Medicare).

Last but not least. In the USA the means of production is not controlled by the state. Therefore, the socialist tag simply does not apply. You are a fucking MORON.

You're a liar, flighty. You are a socialist who advocates that every citizen be as miserable as the most miserable citizen in the state, and you advocate that the state use its full power to achieve that level of shared misery, flighty.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

The needs of the few in no manner trump the needs of the many, flighty.

To liberals, the WANTS of the few should always override the needs of the many...

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Earth to Hankering, Earth to Hankering wake up. The health insurance companies in the private sector should not have been allowed to weed out people with pre-existing conditions in the first place.

That MIGHT be true Flight. BUT it should not have come by the govt DICTATING to them 'you WILL insure them via US FORCING everyone else to be insured, so you can spread the cost around.

Originally Posted by flghtr65

That's right the health insurance is a capitalist enterprise. However, there should be a level playing field for everyone.

Wait, WHAT?? If it is a capitalistic PRIVATE enterprise, WHY SHOULD the govt get to DICTATE TO IT who they serve? That's making it a PUBLICLY Controlled enterprise.
Additionally IF ITS a level playing field for everyone, THEN EVERYONE SHOULD BE paying exactly the same cost.. No matter if you live in Pataskala Oh, or Seattle Wa. No matter if you are a single male, or a married woman with 4 kids...

BUT why then, should Health care be that way, forced to be 'level' for all, but not housing insurance, or auto/bike insurance??

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You are a socialist who advocates that every citizen be as miserable as the most miserable citizen in the state

I am not a socialist. I don't believe the government should give everyone a 5,000 sq ft home with two BMW's in the driveway. I believe your own individual talents and hard work will get you that. If that is what one tries to achieve. Some people would prefer a Lexus instead of BMW. LOL.

I do believe that people with pre-existing conditions should not be prevented from purchasing health insurance in the individual market. Prior to the ACA law being passed this was not the case.

Your hero Bush43 signed into law Medicare Part D, the law that takes taxpayer money and helps seniors purchase prescriptions that they can't afford on their own. Was Bush43 a socialist by signing that law?

Keep posting Hankering, let's hear some more of your theories on capitalism and socialism. LOL.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

You are the perfect example of someone that is simply not a nice person.

Yeah, I know what you mean! Like this guy...

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

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