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Old 11-30-2017, 03:03 PM   #31
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LOL! Bush did not have to sign it now did he? !
No he didn't, but since he and his other bushite ilks are one-world government lovers, its a NO BRAINER why he signed it..
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Old 11-30-2017, 03:18 PM   #32
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Nope. if they are guilty VIA PROOF, not just mere accusations, THEN THEY SHOULD get hammered just like the DEMS SHOULD get hammered..
I agree with you 100%. Seems like that only applies to the Dems under the Trump regime. You will not find where I have wanted anyone to get away with anything. Are you saying that only Dems have been involved with using it for profit? And are you saying the fact they are being sued is enough evidence to condemn them? In that case Trump is guilty of 100's of crimes then.
And if Homeland security had not shut down the deal. This would have happened and no one even known. And even HS stated they did nothing wrong.

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A Department of Homeland Security inspector general report issued in 2015 said USCIS Director Alejandro Mayorkas created "an appearance of favoritism and special access” by responding to entreaties from McAuliffe and Rodham to speed up action on applications related to the project. The report did not accuse McAuliffe or Rodham of wrongdoing.
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Old 11-30-2017, 03:45 PM   #33
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And even HS stated they did nothing wrong.
It did? That's interesting! Where does it say that?

You can't help yourself, can you?

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The report did not accuse McAuliffe or Rodham of wrongdoing.
2 AND 0 are not the same thing!

Are you "Comey" in the RW?
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Old 11-30-2017, 04:23 PM   #34
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No he didn't, but since he and his other bushite ilks are one-world government lovers, its a NO BRAINER why he signed it..
Maybe he did it cause he is not an asshole. Your ilks think they do not need any other country to survive. Folks with good sense know otherwise. So explain why Trump ilks have used the EB-5 so often if its such a bad deal?
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Old 11-30-2017, 04:32 PM   #35
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It did? That's interesting! Where does it say that?

You can't help yourself, can you?

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2 AND 0 are not the same thing!

Are you "Comey" in the RW?
You are an idiot. You like to play with words don't you? Answer this since you have condemned them , where does it say they are guilty?

And then you can explain why Trump has made money off it and its okay.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:58 PM   #36
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The issue is not whether they did something illegal. The lawsuit is a civil one, and alleges fraud. In fact, it was fraud, since the investment was obviously sunk into a forseeably non performing asset. The only way it could perform was if Hillarites won the election, and bailed them out, again.

The news media hyped and harped on the innocuous trump company activities and said nothing about this. That is not reasonable.
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:29 AM   #37
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Maybe he did it cause he is not an asshole. Your ilks think they do not need any other country to survive. Folks with good sense know otherwise. So explain why Trump ilks have used the EB-5 so often if its such a bad deal?
I don't care if they are from tembuck fucking too.. IF THEY COME HERE LEGALLY, work, pay taxes and don't break the law, they ar welcome.
IF THEY ARE HERE illlegally, get the hell out!
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The issue is not whether they did something illegal. The lawsuit is a civil one, and alleges fraud. In fact, it was fraud, since the investment was obviously sunk into a forseeably non performing asset. I am not a lawyer but I do know fraud is a crime and can not be tried in a civil court. maybe they should hire Ken Paxton's lawyer The only way it could perform was if Hillarites won the election, and bailed them out, again. Hillary winning would not have made a difference. take a look at the timeline again

The news media hyped and harped on the innocuous trump company activities and said nothing about this. That is not reasonable.

The news media harped about Trumps double standard
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The news media harped about Trumps double standard
So there is no "double standard", or "conflict of interest" in selling fraudulent investments and political connections to foreigners with the whole purpose to provide green cards, while campaigning to ignore enforcement of existing immigration law, and
to gut the weak laws that do exist.

Apparently, their pitch was was to make the transaction, get the green card, and their "man in washington" would ensure the transactions were not reviewed. Go figure. McAuliffe and Rodham personally made the pitch presentations.

In contrast, Kushner was included in a brochure, without being informed he was included, and the investment vehicles were valid and reasonable.

I agree with you that one of these should have been a major story, with hypocrisy and unethical behavior relevant to the campaign. Clearly, though, they picked the wrong story.
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The news media harped about Trumps double standard
Cause they don't want to acknowledge THEIR OWN double standards..
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Old 12-04-2017, 04:17 PM   #41
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So there is no "double standard", or "conflict of interest" in selling fraudulent investments and political connections to foreigners with the whole purpose to provide green cards, while campaigning to ignore enforcement of existing immigration law, and
to gut the weak laws that do exist.

Apparently, their pitch was was to make the transaction, get the green card, and their "man in washington" would ensure the transactions were not reviewed. Go figure. McAuliffe and Rodham personally made the pitch presentations.

In contrast, Kushner was included in a brochure, without being informed he was included, and the investment vehicles were valid and reasonable.

I agree with you that one of these should have been a major story, with hypocrisy and unethical behavior relevant to the campaign. Clearly, though, they picked the wrong story.
So tell me, what was gonna happen if Hillary won? What was she gonna do, award the company a contract? And how was it a fraudulent investment? Funny how you twist the facts. Had the company met the requirements of employment the deal would have not fallen apart. The fault is on whomever was not a savvy businessman and not getting it done. Who originally put the plan together? Who called all the shots about who, what, when and where? The bottom line is had the company made it, there would be no civil case and no opportunity for folks such as you too whine.
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"A Department of Homeland Security watchdog report issued Tuesday blasted the agency’s No. 2 official for repeatedly intervening on behalf of well-connected participants in an investor-visa program, including Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D-Va.) and Tony Rodham, a brother of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The inspector general report faults Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas for creating “an appearance of favoritism and special access” as a result of highly unusual steps he took while serving as director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which oversaw the investment-based program known as EB-5." https://www.politico.com/story/2015/...clinton-116370
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So tell me, what was gonna happen if Hillary won? What was she gonna do, award the company a contract? And how was it a fraudulent investment? Funny how you twist the facts. Had the company met the requirements of employment the deal would have not fallen apart. The fault is on whomever was not a savvy businessman and not getting it done. Who originally put the plan together? Who called all the shots about who, what, when and where? The bottom line is had the company made it, there would be no civil case and no opportunity for folks such as you too whine.
If Hillary had won, there would not have been a review of their performance. Trump won, they were reviewed, the defrauded investors have to go home. The company was a shell used to extract fees from outsiders in exchange for Visa's. No reasonable investor would have given that Company money.

The paradigm is the same as providers selling pens for $300. Selling pens surely isn't illegal, right.
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"A Department of Homeland Security watchdog report issued Tuesday blasted the agency’s No. 2 official for repeatedly intervening on behalf of well-connected participants in an investor-visa program, including Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D-Va.) and Tony Rodham, a brother of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The inspector general report faults Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas for creating “an appearance of favoritism and special access” as a result of highly unusual steps he took while serving as director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which oversaw the investment-based program known as EB-5." https://www.politico.com/story/2015/...clinton-116370
I just saw this. I did not need to reply.

I would add that it is becoming clearer why Hillary destroyed her emails.
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Do you think they could ever investigate all of the crimes of the Clinton's before they die?
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