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10-26-2017, 09:40 AM
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This has been my thought since this movement started. Even if 99% claims are legitimate, if that 1% that is lying is discovered, it will distort everything and once again it will go underground, victims will stay quiet because of the media backlash of the one liar.
Sadly, I'm expecting it to happen soon. I'm not optimistic because this has been the nature of these things for ever. And this pathetic business will continue as usual. Hope I'm wrong, but doubtful.
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I agree, it's easy for a message to get off track. Look at the whole thing with the NFL players. We've almost forgotten WHY they're taking a knee and focused on the fact THAT they're taking a knee.
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10-26-2017, 10:20 AM
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There is never a time for a guy to harass a woman or grab her or make crude comments. However, when it does happen the appropriate time to say something is right then. The sad thing is at the same time we are loosing our ability to tease and interact with the opposite sex, something that was part of growing up and part of the "hunt" Hell I had my junk grabbed many times in the OR by some of the cutest nurses. Even had one pull my scrubs to the ground after I was scrubbed in on a case.
It was just fun female/male banter. Now you cant even touch a womans hand or shoulder during anything business related or its harassment
Let keep harassment real and punishable and when a woman is asked to perform sex for a job the asshat should be prosecuted immediately.
However, lets don't loose the playfulness and the things many guys on here pay for. Lets just be fucking adults. Analeese and Berkleigh you can grab my junk anytime you want.
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That sounds like an episode of doogie howser when doogie was pants in the O.R. by the nurse and everyone was in the Gallery looking on.
Saying something "right then" is obviously what we want to happen.
However, think about how that would have gone over even just 10 years ago. I would imagine it being very scary for women because they realized if they did say some thing and were not believed that could ruin their careers.
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10-26-2017, 10:39 AM
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This ME TOO crap is getting old fast. How can you believe anyone after several years go by and Now its ME -TOO
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Exactly!!!!! I don’t believe any of that shit.
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10-26-2017, 10:59 AM
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This country has become hypersensitive with entitlement. People now believe they are "emotionally entitled" and anyone that disagrees with their stance is a racist or a criminal for breaking their loose interpretation of a law. In our society we now allow the tail to wag the dog as it's simply the path of lest resistance. Most agendas today don't have specific goals to implement change because if the change is implemented you loose your "rite"to complain. They are simply an opportunity for people to bitch. We all know you will never please all people all the time, but that is the expectation these days.
Sexual assault is defined by the Department of Justice as follows....Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.
IF Bush grabbed her ass it meets the definition, but not the intent. If it occurred it is inappropriate, but it's not a case of sexual assault! Assaulting someone, sexually or otherwise, can lead to time in jail. We all know IF this occurred that it's inappropriate, but not a jail-able offense.
It's time for all these hypersensitive people to exercise a little common sense, but it isn't going to happen. We will continue to allow the tail to wag the dog.
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10-26-2017, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jd75019
This country has become hypersensitive with entitlement. People now believe they are "emotionally entitled" IF Bush grabbed her ass it meets the definition, but not the intent. If it occurred it is inappropriate, but it's not a case of sexual assault!
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I don't think it's a question of IF it occurred.. the apology and the new accuser basically say "yup, it happened".
David Cop-a-feel? and this guy went to Yale?
nothing sadder than an old man who is out of touch with societal norms, went to an Ivy League school, and feels like he has standing to grope women at his leisure. but enough about Donald Trump
perspective is necessary.. this is an old Codger who happens to be an ex-President, and father of an ex-President, who still lives in another time, and never was schooled on appropriate behavior.. but while he's a first class Lout, he's no REAL sexual abuser, as we should think of the term.. and yes, there are lots of victims all over these days, it makes me want to puke.
David-Cop-a-feel?
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10-26-2017, 01:47 PM
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David-Cop-a-feel...
Well at least we know where his son got his "bushisms"
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10-26-2017, 04:37 PM
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FWIW, prez 41 recently hosted a benefit concert and did not stand for the national anthem.
-sarcasm. Patting a booty at that age is not assault. Inappropriate, sure. But I think intent also has to factored in as well. If a firefighter had to carry a women to safety and in the process of saving her grabbed her ass and tits, by the standards of some this would be assault.
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10-26-2017, 07:18 PM
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Bush is innocent, these hoes didn’t speak out when it happened so stfu now. I’m so tired of seeing a bunch hoes jumping on the trampoline that’s moving up and down when someone else comes out and say a powerful man did this or that. Fucking lying ass hoes, I don’t believe any of that shit.
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I’m with you, I just can’t stand a liar.
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10-26-2017, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lipsandhipster
There is never a time for a guy to harass a woman or grab her or make crude comments. However, when it does happen the appropriate time to say something is right then. The sad thing is at the same time we are loosing our ability to tease and interact with the opposite sex, something that was part of growing up and part of the "hunt" Hell I had my junk grabbed many times in the OR by some of the cutest nurses. Even had one pull my scrubs to the ground after I was scrubbed in on a case.
It was just fun female/male banter. Now you cant even touch a womans hand or shoulder during anything business related or its harassment
Let keep harassment real and punishable and when a woman is asked to perform sex for a job the asshat should be prosecuted immediately.
However, lets don't loose the playfulness and the things many guys on here pay for. Lets just be fucking adults. Analeese and Berkleigh you can grab my junk anytime you want.
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I searched my name on eccie...to see if anyone might have asked about me or mentioned me...i was surprised a thread pulled up like this...
I like to grab junk lol.....
Ty for the mention
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10-26-2017, 08:42 PM
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speaking of grabbing junk. it should be mentioned that a double standard exists.. I have been to any number of concerts where ladies grab the junk of the male singer, nobody bats an eye, least of all the male singer, LOL.. but if a guy did that to a female singer? Hell would break loose all over the internet.. Beyoncé got a rear pat, much like GHW Bush has been doing, and that was splashed all over the Web.
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10-26-2017, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chung Tran
speaking of grabbing junk. it should be mentioned that a double standard exists.. I have been to any number of concerts where ladies grab the junk of the male singer, nobody bats an eye, least of all the male singer, LOL.. but if a guy did that to a female singer? Hell would break loose all over the internet.. Beyoncé got a rear pat, much like GHW Bush has been doing, and that was splashed all over the Web.
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Mighty fine point there chung..... could it be that guys actually want their junk grabbed? Could be....lol..this conversation tickles me.
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10-26-2017, 09:51 PM
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Taint grabbing is wrong. While taint massage is good.
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10-27-2017, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Analeese
Mighty fine point there chung..... could it be that guys actually want their junk grabbed? Could be....lol..this conversation tickles me.
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Who knows what anyone wants unless you have consent? Double standards are evil.
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10-27-2017, 10:06 PM
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H W is innocent he didn’t do it lol. Suiram77 has your back H W Bush, these hoes ain’t loyal kmsl.
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