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07-17-2017, 06:54 PM
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The President and Health Care
During the campaign candidate Trump continually ridiculed The Affordable Care Act. He attacked it regularly and often. He also claimed that if elected he would quickly rid the nation of the ACA. His plan -he repeated over and over to cheering throngs- would be cheaper and better. We're now watching a very contested debate and lots of deep disagreement over a new health care plan, one that would replace and repeal the ACA. What is happening is what is important about the political process. There is a spirted back and forth going on. Republicans need a visible, articulate champion to boost their prospects. It is also clear the public is confused and divided on this issue. That complicates the positions of their representatives in Washington. So, where is the President? He has not presented one single speech to the American public advocating for a new health plan. Not one. He quips, tweets, and issues shorty statements that lack substance. Where is the President on this matter after all the noise he made in the campaign? Is his relative silence part of a strategy? Or does his silence reflect something else? Presidents can use their position to compel the public, to inform the public, to move Congress. But in this matter, when an issue the President hammered on repeatedly during his election is at stake, he has made almost no public statements explaining the proposal and why it is necessary. I am waiting for him to act like a leader on this significant matter.
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07-17-2017, 08:02 PM
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Yea but he has vacationed at his golf courses , played golf and gotten free publicity for his businesses!
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07-17-2017, 08:13 PM
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Got a shitload last weekend at his course with the womans tournament.
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07-18-2017, 05:27 AM
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Where are all the Trump people? Hes got his pen in hand ready to sign the health bill.
Ill cut him slack, he said he would do it on the first day, but 6 months is Awesome!
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07-18-2017, 08:47 AM
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They don't understand the difference between domestic policy and pussy grabbing.
Actually BOTH give them a headache.
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07-18-2017, 09:17 AM
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It looks like the HillariousNoMore supporters want to be on Medicaid!
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07-18-2017, 09:22 AM
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Look who's up from his (deleted)!
It's the LLephantMan! The queen of the clothes closet!
You fix that stuff, LLephantMan?
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07-18-2017, 10:41 AM
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It looks like the HillariousNoMore supporters want to be on Medicaid!
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What it looks like is that for the last 7 years, the GOHP hasnt been able to come up with a plan. Thats what it looks like
Lex Im sure youre talented, but.....defending Trump is getting harder and harder for you
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07-18-2017, 10:56 AM
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Its not any harder. Just like trump he will blame someone else. Trumpers will go with it. Zombie Jesus tells them so.
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07-18-2017, 11:22 AM
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Lex Im sure youre talented, but.....defending Trump is getting harder and harder for you
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There's no need to "defend" against spurious accusations.
Due process says so.
My disappointment in Trump is that he pays any attention to them!
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07-18-2017, 12:33 PM
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There's no need to "defend" against spurious accusations.
Due process says so.
My disappointment in Trump is that he pays any attention to them!
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My lawyer used that word once. I didnt know what it meant so I looked it up
So Donald Jr saying he had no contact with the Russians, then Papa Dickhead said it was just "Politics", was that a "spurious" accussation?
I thought King Dickhead wasnt a politician. He was going to drain the swamp. Now its just playing "politics"?
Trump and his followers are the swamp
Lex your the Sean Spicer of Eccie. Congrats!
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07-18-2017, 12:33 PM
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If you are a Republican it might be a good idea not to let everyone know you plan on exempting yourself from the law you are about to pass
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07-18-2017, 12:53 PM
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There's no need to "defend" against spurious accusations.
Due process says so.
My disappointment in Trump is that he pays any attention to them!
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Heres some more "spurious" accusations
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wsj-torch...144342071.html
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07-18-2017, 01:03 PM
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The debate over health care's future, and bills promoted by the Republican majority in both chambers, are the closest thing we have yet seen from the standpoint of hardcore "issue" debate and tactics that has involved the executive branch. We have now been able to witness the President's skills at marshalling and negotiating in this arena. I stand by my earlier opinion that the President's failure to lead is revealing. This was not a strategy aimed at winning. It was a strategy aimed at protecting his backside. That, folks, is why the so-called "swamp" is such a disliked aspect of public service/politics. Our President failed to engage in an issue he used to his advantage during the campaign. When it came to demonstrating his so-called negotiating skills he disappeared. He negotiated NOTHING. He left this matter to Ryan and McConnell. His actions after the House failed to pass a measure were confusing, and they left Ryan and others out to dry. On the healthcare debate I'd give the President a big fat F. He moved no one, showed no understanding of the issues, and actually lost support. Our President talked a lot in his campaign about this issue, but when push came to shove he whined, withered and flunked out.
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07-18-2017, 01:35 PM
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You cant blame trump! Its hillary, she did this. And the deep state. Along with the Russians helping the dems. Then you got those fucking lizard people. The fake news media. Except for Fox news. Killed lord trumps dreams.
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