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Old 04-05-2017, 05:53 PM   #61
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Ship em back!
Are you talking about the Trump ties? I mean that is taking away American jobs too.


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Old 04-05-2017, 11:07 PM   #62
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Companies are not in the business of raising wages to combat illegal immigration. They want their labor cost as low as possible. Take away the illegals and they will likely move their operation to another country. Do you want the US totally dependant on foreign countries for all their produce
most of the produce will eventually be automated or mechanized.

they will do so by necessity.
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:47 AM   #63
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So what? I am still right...
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:49 AM   #64
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Marshall knows nothing about the constitution


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Said the worthless POS who has no allegiance to the Constitution! LOL

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Old 04-06-2017, 09:51 AM   #65
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Any such rise in food costs will be off set by money not spent on perpetual unemployment for those forced out of the labor market by illegals who are depressing wages and money not spent on providing social services for illegals who now overburden the system.
What are we paying farm subsidies for?
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Old 04-06-2017, 10:04 AM   #66
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What are we paying farm subsidies for?
You mean welfare to large corp.


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Old 04-06-2017, 01:09 PM   #67
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You lefties would be the clowns spewing caca, BL. Illegals working as carpenters, plumbers, etc., in Houston are taking traditionally good paying jobs from American citizens as they simultaneously drive down wages in Houston, BL. You cannot outsource those jobs to Mexico City or Vietnam, BL. Those jobs have to be done in Houston, BL.
Do you even READ the post? I have been talking about agriculture, you know farming, and statements by the American Farm Bureau. Not one word about carpenters or plumbers
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Do you even READ the post? I have been talking about agriculture, you know farming, and statements by the American Farm Bureau. Not one word about carpenters or plumbers
That you intentionally failed to mention how illegals have a negative impact on wages in the labor market is all a part of your lib-retard agenda to misrepresent the facts.


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What are we paying farm subsidies for?
To insure certain products are still produced domestically so that the U.S. is not solely dependent on foreign sources for certain commodities.
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What are we paying farm subsidies for?
We are paying it for no good reason. It was started during the Great Depression to help family farms, not large corporations.
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To insure certain products are still produced domestically so that the U.S. is not solely dependent on foreign sources for certain commodities.
Sounds like the government picking winners and losers...


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Are you talking about the Trump ties? I mean that is taking away American jobs too.


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I'm talking about illegals, terrorists, criminals, cartel guys, entitlement seekers and leeches, kid. I know you think these things are important to america. But they do nothing but lower the standard of living.
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Sounds like the government picking winners and losers...


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Sounds like the U.S. government insuring that Americans aren't the losers in the long run.


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The Erie War

Shortly after the mid 19th century, Cornelius Vanderbilt set his mind to building a railroad empire: a monopoly. As part of that plan Vanderbilt intended to take over the Erie Railroad controlled by Daniel Drew, James Fisk and Jay Gould. After Vanderbilt had been swindled by Drew, Fisk and Gould in a stock fraud that prevented Vanderbilt from buying the Erie Railroad, he decided to undercut the market by cutting freight prices he charged for the railroads he already owned. Vanderbilt believed he could recoup his losses by setting the market price after he had established his railroad monopoly. Of course, Drew, Fisk and Gould responded by cutting the fares charged by the Erie. This tit-for-tat price cutting went on for a while, but then at one point Vanderbilt realized that the Erie RR was still charging a higher rate than he was, but it was still in business. Vanderbilt then discovered why. Drew, Fisk and Gould were buying freight (cattle) and shipping the cattle on Vanderbilt's railroads and making a considerable profit off the cheaply transported freight while Vanderbilt continued to suffer a financial loss. Eventually, however, the Erie did fail.

Without competition, monopolistic ventures (as exemplified by Vanderbilt) can charge what they want. It would be worse for this country if certain of those ventures were foreign owned and controlled.


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I'm talking about illegals, terrorists, criminals, cartel guys, entitlement seekers and leeches, kid. I know you think these things are important to america. But they do nothing but lower the standard of living.
I say ship dumb fucks like you out of this country....I'll keep the hard working law abiding folks that got here illegally!

Nobody wants terrorists, criminals or leaches. Good god you are ignorant for stating the obvious.
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Sounds like the U.S. government insuring that Americans aren't the losers in the long run.
Yea...that is wtf Trump is doing!

Or he could be further lining the pockets of the rich and connected..

My bet is , it is not the former.
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Old 04-06-2017, 03:46 PM   #75
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Yea...that is wtf Trump is doing!

Or he could be further lining the pockets of the rich and connected..

My bet is , it is not the former.
You've drifted from discussing subsidies for farmers to discussing a real estate magnate. As originally conceived, farm subsides were meant to cover the difference between what a farmer could and would produce for the market if left to his own devices and the amount the government directed him to produce in order to regulate and keep the market stable by throttling over-production. Then there are the subsidies, e.g., in the sugar industry, to bolster the domestic market against foreign competition. FWIW, most people working in the sugar industry are not multi-millionaires like Trump.
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