Franklin Roosevelt was in office for twelve years

[R.M.]

He served from March 4, 1933 – April 12, 1945. I think that's pretty cool. That's three terms. What year did they start two terms? Any one know? I'm too lazy to google.

[I B Hankering]

Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution. Ratified on February 27, 1951.

[Yssup Rider]

A lazy whooker?

[The_Waco_Kid]

while i'm no fan of FDR, a socialist big gov advocate .. and look where that got us today ... given the circumstances he was right to break Washington's "gentleman's agreement" that two terms is enough. if WWII had not happened, i don't think FDR would have pushed the edge of the envelope as Chuck Yeager might say.

of all the leaders both Axis and Allied only two had any relevant military experience at the outbreak of WWII. Churchill and Tojo.

Tojo was a major general in the imperial army and a graduate of the Imperial Japanese Army Academy and their war college later on.

Churchill was a graduate of Sandhurst .. the precursor to all army academies including West Point and the Imperial Japanese Army Academy. he served in the Boer war in South Africa and was Lord of the Admiralty in WWI.

only these two had the real world experience to be a true military commander in chief.

FDR never served but was smart enough to know that's why u have Generals and Admirals. and he listened to them.

Hitler was a lousy ass corporal in WWI. not exactly going to make him a Supreme field Marshall eh? Hitler's many mistakes helped the allies defeat the Axis. no wonder his own Generals wanted to kill that idiot.

Mussolini is even worse .. he was in exile in Switzerland for refusing mandatory service in the Italian army. he did eventually serve two years ... only as a condition for he being allowed to return to Italy. also not exactly Supreme Commander material. and i know Luke Wyatt's gonna hate this .. but the truth is that the Italian army sucked! even the Germans got fed up with them. yeah their Navy actually did have several state of the art battleships but it wasn't enough. their air force didn't stand up well either even with a massive building campaign .. but based on designs that were quickly rendered obsolete.

one of their battleships was so hated by the Royal Navy that when Italy surrendered they took it to Egypt and sunk it. OUCH!

short of Tojo and Churchill .. given his lack of any military background, FDR was the next best commander in chief .. simply because he knew he didn't have the background for it and listened to his Generals and Admirals. if Hitler had done that .. well history might be different today.

[I B Hankering]

War leadership: The war’s leaders all “came to realize that the only way to inform themselves quickly and directly and, in turn, act swiftly and directly on their military and civilian hierarchies was to keep their personal staffs very small... [Meanwhile] American vice-presidents now have a larger staff to schedule their appearances at political dinners in state funerals then President Roosevelt had to run the United States and its war effort in World War II” (p. 288).

“Franklin Roosevelt did not want to lead the United States in war at all. In 1968... [author/historian] Robert Divine put forward a picture of Roosevelt as a man who was at heart an isolationist and a pacifist, primarily as a result of his experiences in World War I, and who hoped until literally the last moment that it might be possible to keep the United States out of war. The evidence which has come to light in the intervening years has dramatically reinforced this view of the president” (p. 299).

FDR got through an unbelievable amount of work as “he was absolutely determined to lead the nation through the war... he would make the tough decisions himself ... [and] the president accepted the military and political risks... [H]is staff did not hesitate to place documents in French or in German on their chief’s desk. Roosevelt kept track of the ‘Ultra’ materials and was highly conscious of security considerations. Just once the log of the Map Room, the command center through which the most secret current reports on the war flowed, records that the president's dog Fala came in; but it also notes that the president immediately told him to leave as he was not permitted there. The country’s most famous Scottie lacked the necessary clearance” (pp. 299-300).

Prime Minister General Tojo Hideki also kept the position administer of war, like Churchill. However, “the Japanese military system is structured in such a fashion that a number of military and naval officers could move practically on their own. The theoretical supreme commander was the emperor; but in practice issues were, until August 1945, only brought to the emperor when all others had reached an agreement. In effect this meant that there was no central coordinating person in the Japanese war effort... e.g., the best Japanese and most Western accounts of the Battle of Midway do not mention Tojo a single time” (pp. 302-03).

“Stalin was never particularly enthusiastic about cooperating with his Western partners. He had not wanted to work with Britain and the United States, and he was not about to go out of his way for them once he was thrust into their company by Hitler... Nothing is more instructive than the contrast in the reporting of the German diplomatic representatives on their relations with Soviet officials with those of the United States and British representatives: it is obvious the Soviet leadership greatly preferred to work with the Germans” (p. 305).

“Practically all [of Germany's] field marshals and four-star generals received enormous sums [bribes] secretly from Hitler, partly in huge sums and partly in regular monthly secret supplements to their already very high pay... [Guderian] was given a huge [Polish] estate worth 1.25 million marks” (p. 308). Weinberg's position is that their post-war memoirs are often self-serving and suspect.

Weinberg, Gerhard L. Germany, Hitler, and World War II: Essays in Modern German and World History. New York: Cambridge University Press, 1995. Pp vi, 347.

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[The_Waco_Kid]

Quote:
War leadership: The war’s leaders all “came to realize that the only way to inform themselves quickly and directly and, in turn, act swiftly and directly on their military and civilian hierarchies was to keep their personal staffs very small... [Meanwhile] American vice-presidents now have a larger staff to schedule their appearances at political dinners in state funerals then President Roosevelt had to run the United States and its war effort in World War II” (p. 288).

“Franklin Roosevelt did not want to lead the United States in war at all. In 1968... [author/historian] Robert Divine put forward a picture of Roosevelt as a man who was at heart an isolationist and a pacifist, primarily as a result of his experiences in World War I, and who hoped until literally the last moment that it might be possible to keep the United States out of war. The evidence which has come to light in the intervening years has dramatically reinforced this view of the president” (p. 299).

FDR got through an unbelievable amount of work as “he was absolutely determined to lead the nation through the war... he would make the tough decisions himself ... [and] the president accepted the military and political risks... [H]is staff did not hesitate to place documents in French or in German on their chief’s desk. Roosevelt kept track of the ‘Ultra’ materials and was highly conscious of security considerations. Just once the log of the Map Room, the command center through which the most secret current reports on the war flowed, records that the president's dog Fala came in; but it also notes that the president immediately told him to leave as he was not permitted there. The country’s most famous Scottie lacked the necessary clearance” (pp. 299-300).

Prime Minister General Tojo Hideki also kept the position administer of war, like Churchill. However, “the Japanese military system is structured in such a fashion that a number of military and naval officers could move practically on their own. The theoretical supreme commander was the emperor; but in practice issues were, until August 1945, only brought to the emperor when all others had reached an agreement. In effect this meant that there was no central coordinating person in the Japanese war effort... e.g., the best Japanese and most Western accounts of the Battle of Midway do not mention Tojo a single time” (pp. 302-03).

“Stalin was never particularly enthusiastic about cooperating with his Western partners. He had not wanted to work with Britain and the United States, and he was not about to go out of his way for them once he was thrust into their company by Hitler... Nothing is more instructive than the contrast in the reporting of the German diplomatic representatives on their relations with Soviet officials with those of the United States and British representatives: it is obvious the Soviet leadership greatly preferred to work with the Germans” (p. 305).

“Practically all field marshals and four-star generals received enormous sums [bribes] secretly from Hitler, partly in huge sums and partly in regular monthly secret supplements to their already very high pay... [Guderian] was given a huge [Polish] estate worth 1.25 million marks” (p. 308).

Weinberg, Gerhard L. Germany, Hitler, and World War II: Essays in Modern German and World History. New York: Cambridge University Press, 1995. Pp vi, 347.





opps! forgot about Uncle Joe but he had no military experience at all .. and he was more psychotic than Hitler. and that's saying something.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by R.M.

He served from March 4, 1933 – April 12, 1945. I think that's pretty cool. That's three terms. What year did they start two terms? Any one know? I'm too lazy to google.

I don't know when the two term max started either, just be glad it did. Could you imagine the idiots we could have had in office twelve years, eight is bad enough. Four is even too long for some of these morons.


Jim

[Luke_Wyatt]

Originally Posted by R.M.

He served from March 4, 1933 – April 12, 1945. I think that's pretty cool. That's three terms. What year did they start two terms? Any one know? I'm too lazy to google.

seriously you have to be the dumbest CUNT on this site- everyone fucking knows he was the only 3 term President- you are damn near 40 and just found it out? You think it's cool huh- do you really or are you trying to just fit in? If there were no term limits Obama would be in office right now you dumb CUNT.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

...and i know Luke Wyatt's gonna hate this... but the truth is that the Italian army sucked! even the Germans got fed up with them. yeah their Navy actually did have several state of the art battleships but it wasn't enough. their air force didn't stand up well either even with a massive building campaign... but based on designs that were quickly rendered obsolete.

Yeah, but don't forget... they impressed the fuck out of everyone when they knocked out Haile Selassie's spear-throwing Ethiopians!

Ain't that right, LubedAss?

[TheDaliLama]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

seriously you have to be the dumbest CUNT on this site- everyone fucking knows he was the only 3 term President- you are damn near 40 and just found it out? You think it's cool huh- do you really or are you trying to just fit in? If there were no term limits Obama would be in office right now you dumb CUNT.

Speaking of trying to fit in..you're a joke!

This last election was a referendum on Obama you fat piece of lard.

You are the real cunt and cock sucker.

[TheDaliLama]

The Great Depression was great because FDR made it great. It took WW2 to pull out of it.

FDR was a drunk and he drank himself to death.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

seriously you have to be the dumbest CUNT on this site- everyone fucking knows he was the only 3 term President- you are damn near 40 and just found it out? You think it's cool huh- do you really or are you trying to just fit in? If there were no term limits Obama would be in office right now you dumb CUNT.

Thank God for the Twenty Second Amendment.

Jim

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Speaking of trying to fit in..you're a joke!

This last election was a referendum on Obama you fat piece of lard.

You are the real cunt and cock sucker.

correct!

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

The Great Depression was great because FDR made it great. It took WW2 to pull out of it.

FDR was a drunk and he drank himself to death.

correct! his so-called new deal didn't do shit. right up until the onset of WWII it had failed to make much if any progress in ending the Great Depression. WWII fixed that problem

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

seriously you have to be the dumbest CUNT on this site- everyone fucking knows he was the only 3 term President- you are damn near 40 and just found it out? You think it's cool huh- do you really or are you trying to just fit in? If there were no term limits Obama would be in office right now you dumb CUNT.

bahhahaaa u stupid fat whopper .. FDR was elected to 4 .. FOUR terms u idiot not 3. and u think u are gonna give history lessons here? NOT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt


"A Democrat, he won a record four presidential elections and emerged as a central figure in world events during the mid-20th century. He directed the United States government during most of the Great Depression and World War II."

it doesn't matter that he didn't live to see the end of his 4th term he is the only president to be elected more than twice.

can u count? how many whoppers did u eat today? 15? 20? bhhaaa




u ate your way to being a morbidly obese fatass. it's your fault whopperboy.

[R.M.]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

seriously you have to be the dumbest CUNT on this site- everyone fucking knows he was the only 3 term President- you are damn near 40 and just found it out? You think it's cool huh- do you really or are you trying to just fit in? If there were no term limits Obama would be in office right now you dumb CUNT.

Said that fat sad trick. HeH. Now shut that fat trick mouth yours and go chock on Popeye's. Bitch don't get it twisted.

[Jackie S]

Like Lincoln, didn't FDR ignore many of the Supreme Court Rulings that limited the President's power during a time of crisis, such as the Civil War, the Great Depression, and WW-2.

Also, many of FDR's programs to get people back to work during the Great Depression were later declared Unconstitutional.

True, WW-2 was probably the biggest instrument in reviving America's industrial might, but FDR did many of the things that Prsident Trump is advocating now, especially in the realm of infrastructure.