I know this is a P4P site but...

[Fancylady]

Originally Posted by yitzchak

I mentioned a paid kind of friendly date instead of fucking to someone and she stopped replying soon afterward. Because, if you look on other forums, they say that fucking us is easier than talking to us. They would rather get fucked and leave then sit through a shitty conversation with a retard. That's just what I've read elsewhere, and from my limited experience, I think it is generally true. I was attracted to this kind of lifestyle when considering the points made by OP, but I'm finding out that it's a much darker world than I had originally thought. There are a lot of forums about how much they hate when a client asks questions about their personal life or start talking to them about his personal life.

Good point when a clients and pros ask questions about their personal life or start talking to them about clients or pros personal life.Paid sessions with strings.

[JCM800]

Did you find that car yet?

[gentlemantoo]

Some people are so wrapped up in fantasy, that they just do not handle real possobilities very well. I get it, very clearly. Tucson helps make my point and does not even realize it. He has 25 reviews, I will guess some of those are repeats of same lady so say 20 separate women he has reviewed in 6 and 1/2 years on this board. Further assume he did not write reviews of every woman he saw. So, out of 20+ women he says 5 are his friends and one or two are close friends. That would mean that at the very minimum 15 women he had sex with are not his friends and at least 18 women are not close friends. This would mean the friendlier and closer guy only befriends 25% of the women he sees. That is not a high percentage and I skewed the numbers in his favor. So, 75% of the time it is a business transaction. Now I ask what the hell have I been saying?

Road Lizard, how long have you been in sales?? Good at it I bet? You have your own company after all. But can we say conservatively you have at least 12 buyers a year (I do not know what product nor services you sell). I am going very conservative on numbers for your benefit because you may have over 100 buyers per year and over how many years. And you made what a handful of friends. Your percentages are even worse. Thus over 75% of your transactions are business related not friendship. Nothing immoral here, in fact it is just good business. Just like these ladies, just good business and that is marvelous!

When these women see us, and ACT like they are into us, it is just good business not intimacy nor passion. Do they make friends in the business, true friends maybe but number is very very low and very rare. So, if you are wondering if you have a true friend in her remember this statistic 92% of all prostitutes surveyed in an extensive study say they are not happy selling sex and if not for the money she would get out of the business.

What does all this mean? 92% of the time you see a woman for paid sex, she would rather be somewhere else. Of the women you see that enjoy their job, 8% you have less than 25% chance of being her even remote friend. But again you are special aren't you? She is acting with the other 92%, you are the real thing, so have a coke and smile. Did you see that? I used some of Coca-cola's ads to show you that Coke does not sell realness nor smiles, they sell soda. Just as a provider does not sell intimacy, closeness, nor pasion nor time, she sells sex.

Have I not entertained you? Have fun people. Enjoy the fantasy because after all, it is fantasy.

[art_vandelay]

Originally Posted by Fancylady

Your not only one put in hours marketing yourself to pick up business.Your just like rest of professionals trying to make living working in this business.

Hey Fancylady, if you give me a freebie I'll pop that review board cherry for you. Here's your one chance Fancy don't let me down

[yitzchak]

Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

Rather than claiming this is the norm, you might consider the idea that you are particularly unappealing company. Then, you might do something to change that fact.

I think she would have been fine with a regular session. It's the fact that I suggested something else, like a date, that creeped her out. Even though escorting legally would be for that purpose... or maybe I am so unappealing that I can not even pay someone for a date.

[Danielle Reid]

Originally Posted by Lena Duvall

I'm absolutely distraught, keeling over, and writhing in agony at the thought that as a professional escort, I'm just a cute face, tits, ass, and three moist, warm holes. This is eccie.net (ECCIE meaning: Escort Client Community Information Exchange) and not eHarmony.com. It should be glaringly obvious to me that if I didn't know how to lay it on 'em, no guest would even consider coming to visit me. Still, I'm feeling so many ways.

I put hours and hours of thought into how I present myself. I've invested in professional photo sessions and paid advertising. I put aside weeks of my life to design a website with over 2,100 words, some of which even convey my non-sexy times related interests and passions. But admit it, if I didn't give good head, you wouldn't even give me the time of day!

*cue melodramatic tantrum*

Sounds like you wasted a lot of time and money when all you need were a few good photos, a site that listed rates, times available, and travel notices, and to make sure you smelled nice with some form of makeup.

[Rickshaw17]

I want a genuine connection; although in this arena, finding that is rare indeed.

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

Well no shit.

We go based on looks.
You are no different than a car or a coffee table.

You sell your pussy and we buy it.

I doubt very many read your website.
We look at the pics and rates and decide if we want to fuck you.

If you don't want to be a whore, don't be a whore.

It sounds like the OP suddenly realized that once you get past all of the "Escort" "Provider", "Cortesan", etc, she is simply a "Hooker".

The only guys who care about all of that other stuff, the cute face, the tits, the ass, the three warm holes, are just fooling themselves, thinking that this beautiful girl would give them the time of day unless they are on the clock.

[Lena Duvall]

Not quite especially since I stated in a subsequent post on the first page that I was using irony to make a point...

Originally Posted by Danielle Reid

Sounds like you wasted a lot of time and money...

Originally Posted by Lena Duvall

So, to be transparent I was not nearly as distressed as I purported to be. Especially since yesterday was Fat Tuesday here in New Orleans and I had an absolute ball! There was a lot of subtle satire happening in my original post which was partly inspired by me consuming "if it's pay for play, it's not real" type posts. I can't tell if they are becoming more popular or if I'm just stumbling across them more often.

The type of commentary where some vehemently assert that affection, intimacy, and emotions are completely fake if they transpire between a companion and her guest really leave me scratching my head and wondering why those who truly believe that are even members of this community rather than investing their energy in non-P4P civvie dating spaces.

Because of how I screen, the wonderful gents I have met do indeed appreciate me for more than my physicality and what sexual desires I may be able to fulfill for them. And while I do absolutely love inspiring conversations about art, current events, and other shared interests, I'm totally fine with the reality that someone who visits me also wants to experience my erotic skills. The flip side of that is that I expect a gent who is visiting me to be equally okay with the fact that I want to be paid for my time. The fact that I may not see someone if he didn't pay me is completely irrelevant because to be fair and honest, he wouldn't see me if he weren't going to get to know me in the biblical sense. After all, this is not eHarmony.com

Originally Posted by Danielle Reid

..when all you need were a few good photos, a site that listed rates, times available, and travel notices, and to make sure you smelled nice with some form of makeup.

But I get what you're saying Danielle. Your website truly does prove that the adage "a picture is worth a thousand words" is true. Still even if a thousand words weren't required, I'm sure it takes resources and effort to coordinate dozens and dozens of photo and video shoots to end up with the abundance of well done, high quality content that you've produced.

[Buying a *Way to Heaven]

Originally Posted by Fancylady

Good point me too and show professionals cash.Someone help me with $1500 car.

Me! Me! I can help shove that $1500 car up your ass!

[Fancylady]

Originally Posted by JCM800

Did you find that car yet?

I have been looking at few.I need to hit lottery..Thanks for asking.

[captjackno]

Originally Posted by yitzchak

I mentioned a paid kind of friendly date instead of fucking to someone and she stopped replying soon afterward. Because, if you look on other forums, they say that fucking us is easier than talking to us. They would rather get fucked and leave then sit through a shitty conversation with a retard. That's just what I've read elsewhere, and from my limited experience, I think it is generally true. I was attracted to this kind of lifestyle when considering the points made by OP, but I'm finding out that it's a much darker world than I had originally thought. There are a lot of forums about how much they hate when a client asks questions about their personal life or start talking to them about his personal life.

I literally laughed out loud at this line

[Lena Duvall]

Y, you raise a couple of interesting points. It is true that not all providers even favor a date that isn't solely BCD playtime. But to say that's the case for all escorts is a gross generalization. If a more social experience is what you're looking for, the right-for-you companion is certainly out there. Though it would require putting forth the energy to do research and also being perceptive to patters.

When I notice that a particular provider doesn't list any rates for a date longer than ninety minutes or maybe two hours, then I get the impression that maybe she might not be open to a longer date that would include sensual pursuits as well as intellectual intimacy. In the Diamonds & Tuxedos thread some months back I read a gent's post about his misadventures trying to arrange a multi-hour date with providers who had a strong preference for 30 minute or hour long BCD only time. Now if instead of a multi-hour date, you're seeking a public social only encounter like a coffee date or something similar, doing research to see who lists that rate may be useful as not every escort is into that.