Emails are not from Clinton's server

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Ex-CEO

Your obsessions are of an altogether different variety, aren't they? For example, like the elimination of citizens' Second Amendment rights, correct?

Need we remind the readers that you shamefully proclaimed that gun owners are "proud" when innocent people are slain?

Yes, you sure did:

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1481161&highlight=

There it is, you stupid fucking asshole.

Watch out, ex-CEO. You might wind up on suckclown's "cunt list"! He never rebuts an argument, he only calls everyone who disagrees a cunt.

[JD Barleycorn]

So sad... Latest info says some wiener emails DID come from Hillary's server. I guess this is just one more premature thread from the liberal elites.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Unfortunately nothing will be officially announced by November 8th. So assume what you will.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Unfortunately nothing will be officially announced by November 8th. So assume what you will.

unfortunately for Clinton, this will dominate news bites all the way up to Nov 8th. So assume what you will about that ...

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

unfortunately for Clinton, this will dominate news bites all the way up to Nov 8th. So assume what you will about that ...

Do you really think that voters will change their votes based on NOTHING concrete? Very doubtful. Tens of millions of votes have already been cast. And this just broke:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us...trump-tax.html

[bambino]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Do you really think that voters will change their votes based on NOTHING concrete? Very doubtful. Tens of millions of votes have already been cast. And this just broke:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us...trump-tax.html

That loophole was legal at the time. Hardly newsworthy. Just shows how desperate the left is. You can vote for Clinton, but her scandals aren't going away. If she's elected, the investigation continues. She's responsible for her situation. As usual, she puts herself above the law and the well being of the country.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bambino

That loophole was legal at the time. Hardly newsworthy. Just shows how desperate the left is. You can vote for Clinton, but her scandals aren't going away. If she's elected, the investigation continues. She's responsible for her situation. As usual, she puts herself above the law and the well being of the country.

Legal but as the article states; "Tax experts who reviewed the newly obtained documents for The New York Times said Mr. Trump’s tax avoidance maneuver, conjured from ambiguous provisions of highly technical tax court rulings, clearly pushed the edge of the envelope of what tax laws permitted at the time. “Whatever loophole existed was not ‘exploited’ here, but stretched beyond any recognition,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center who helped draft tax legislation in the early 1990s."

But let's move on.

Does the term "innocent until proven guilty" mean anything to you? Trump, in my opinion, is innocent of the charges brought against him by 10 or so women until one or more of them can come up with real proof that the incidents actually occurred. He is innocent of any tax evasion charges until proven guilty. Clinton is also innocent until proven guilty. Yes, she most certainly is responsible for her situation. She misused a server and mishandled confidential information. And, like it or not, no charges were brought against her as of this time. Republicans hated Comey back in July and now love him. How circumstances change!

[DSK]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Legal but as the article states; "Tax experts who reviewed the newly obtained documents for The New York Times said Mr. Trump’s tax avoidance maneuver, conjured from ambiguous provisions of highly technical tax court rulings, clearly pushed the edge of the envelope of what tax laws permitted at the time. “Whatever loophole existed was not ‘exploited’ here, but stretched beyond any recognition,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center who helped draft tax legislation in the early 1990s."

But let's move on.

Does the term "innocent until proven guilty" mean anything to you? Trump, in my opinion, is innocent of the charges brought against him by 10 or so women until one or more of them can come up with real proof that the incidents actually occurred. He is innocent of any tax evasion charges until proven guilty. Clinton is also innocent until proven guilty. Yes, she most certainly is responsible for her situation. She misused a server and mishandled confidential information. And, like it or not, no charges were brought against her as of this time. Republicans hated Comey back in July and now love him. How circumstances change!

Yes you are correct about the presumption of innocence til proven guilty. However:

1. If an accountant prepares your taxes and you rely upon his expertise and the accountant attempted in good faith to comply with the law, you might have to pay back taxes and maybe even penalties, but no crime has been committed.

However, a former Attorney General of the United States has said that gross negligence in the handling of classified documents is a prosecutable crime, and don't you think Hillary was likely grossly negligent?

Did she have a finding from an Attorney other than herself that her use of a server outside of government control was a legitimate way to handle classified documents? It goes way beyond email!!!

[DSK]

Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

You know it's sad when all these numnuts can do is hang their fucking tin foil hats on a stupid email server story. This is totally hilarious to me.

I don't give a rats ass about a fucking email server story. It's not important at this time. She was not the head person in charge anyway the buck stopped with Obama so there was little to nothing she could do having a personal fucking server. Woop-tee-doo.

It isn't about just the server, it is about the handling of the classified documents in a grossly negligent manner.

She can probably get off if she gets an OJ jury, though.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Legal but as the article states; "Tax experts who reviewed the newly obtained documents for The New York Times said Mr. Trump’s tax avoidance maneuver, conjured from ambiguous provisions of highly technical tax court rulings, clearly pushed the edge of the envelope of what tax laws permitted at the time. “Whatever loophole existed was not ‘exploited’ here, but stretched beyond any recognition,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center who helped draft tax legislation in the early 1990s."

But let's move on.

Does the term "innocent until proven guilty" mean anything to you? Trump, in my opinion, is innocent of the charges brought against him by 10 or so women until one or more of them can come up with real proof that the incidents actually occurred. He is innocent of any tax evasion charges until proven guilty. Clinton is also innocent until proven guilty. Yes, she most certainly is responsible for her situation. She misused a server and mishandled confidential information. And, like it or not, no charges were brought against her as of this time. Republicans hated Comey back in July and now love him. How circumstances change!

It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to know that Hillary Clinton violated several laws when she set up an illegal server in the basement of her home to avoid FOIA requests, speedy. It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to know that Hillary Clinton violated several laws when she quit the State Department and refused to surrender government related emails to the State Department in order to avoid FOIA requests, speedy. It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to know that Hillary Clinton violated several laws when she destroyed government emails to avoid Congressional subpoenas, speedy. It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to know that "extremely careless" and "gross negligence" are synonymous, speedy. Meanwhile, even you article says Trump didn't violate the law, speedy. Put that bicycle seat back in your supercilious ass and quit spewing shit, speedy.

[Guest123018-4]

Why do these idiots think this is about an email server and not the violation of many federal laws.
Why do they not understand that she committed numerous crimes the least of which was using a private email server. Libtard logic 101; deny, deflect, and delete.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by DSK

Yes you are correct about the presumption of innocence til proven guilty. However:

1. If an accountant prepares your taxes and you rely upon his expertise and the accountant attempted in good faith to comply with the law, you might have to pay back taxes and maybe even penalties, but no crime has been committed.

However, a former Attorney General of the United States has said that gross negligence in the handling of classified documents is a prosecutable crime, and don't you think Hillary was likely grossly negligent?

Did she have a finding from an Attorney other than herself that her use of a server outside of government control was a legitimate way to handle classified documents? It goes way beyond email!!!

It is a crime if you meant to deceive the government. If the accountant used improper accounting techniques in the preparation of the tax return and you sign it, you are as guilty as the accountant. However, I am not accusing Trump of anything inappropriate.

I believe intent is the determining factor in Clinton's guilt or innocence. As Comey stated:

"Comey said the Justice Department shouldn’t prosecute Clinton because there isn’t enough evidence that she intentionally mishandled classified information. FBI investigators didn’t find vast quantities of exposed classified material, and they also did not turn up evidence that Clinton intended to be disloyal to the United States or that she intended to obstruct justice.
However, he called Clinton’s email setup "extremely careless.""


Comey is a man who prior to his decision was very well-regarded by both Republicans and Democrats. An ex-Republican who supported the Republican candidates that ran against Obama. The day he made his decision, which was not made by him alone, he instantly became a traitor to Americans and someone who was on the Clinton payroll.



If you are a Republican, you likely think Clinton is guilty of a crime worthy of prosecution. If you are a Democrat, you likely believe otherwise.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to know that Hillary Clinton violated several laws when she set up an illegal server in the basement of her home to avoid FOIA requests, speedy. It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to know that Hillary Clinton violated several laws when she quit the State Department and refused to surrender government related emails to the State Department in order to avoid FOIA requests, speedy. It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to know that Hillary Clinton violated several laws when she destroyed government emails to avoid Congressional subpoenas, speedy. It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to know that "extremely careless" and "gross negligence" are synonymous, speedy. Meanwhile, even you article says Trump didn't violate the law, speedy. Put that bicycle seat back in your supercilious ass and quit spewing shit, speedy.

As you have shown continually in the past, and continue to do so today, you are an idiot.

If you think Clinton is guilty of some crime, take it upon yourself to prove it and take her to court.

End of discussion.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Legal but as the article states; "Tax experts who reviewed the newly obtained documents for The New York Times said Mr. Trump’s tax avoidance maneuver, conjured from ambiguous provisions of highly technical tax court rulings, clearly pushed the edge of the envelope of what tax laws permitted at the time. “Whatever loophole existed was not ‘exploited’ here, but stretched beyond any recognition,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center who helped draft tax legislation in the early 1990s."

But let's move on.

Does the term "innocent until proven guilty" mean anything to you? Trump, in my opinion, is innocent of the charges brought against him by 10 or so women until one or more of them can come up with real proof that the incidents actually occurred. He is innocent of any tax evasion charges until proven guilty. Clinton is also innocent until proven guilty. Yes, she most certainly is responsible for her situation. She misused a server and mishandled confidential information. And, like it or not, no charges were brought against her as of this time. Republicans hated Comey back in July and now love him. How circumstances change!

There is a difference between July and today. When Comey announced that they would not indict Hillary the reaction was "WTF, all those crimes and no charges? What's going on here with Comey?" The democrats reaction has been "How dare Comey go back on his first presentation. This isn't fair to Hillary."

We had a good reason to be incredulous back in July. The democrats are just made that Comey (in their perceptions) is betraying them.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

As you have shown continually in the past, and continue to do so today, you are an idiot.

If you think Clinton is guilty of some crime, take it upon yourself to prove it and take her to court.

End of discussion.

Hildebeest's lyin', criminal ass is still being investigated for her criems, speedy; so, this 'discussion' is far from being ended, jackass.