Can Trump Still Win?

[veedub63]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

And that's just it. The media is making it sound like it's gonna be close just to keep people watching. But even they know that Trump is gonna get his ass blown out of the water. By the time the polls close in the Mountain time zone we will know Hillary will be the next president.

And NO Hillary is not getting any help from the media, she is getting help from Trump continuously opening his mouth period!! I think it's hilarious that he says the shit he does and then turns around and wants to blame the media. Gimme a fucking break, and just admit that Trump is a dumb ass who has seriously embarrassed America by the fact that he has even made it this far.

I don't know whether Trump is a dumb-ass or not. America should be more embarrassed by Obama's actions rather than Trump's words. Admittedly, Trump is abrasive at times with his words. The leaked "lewd" tape was especially awful.

Hillary, on the other hand, is the typical government insider. A self made millionaire derived solely from insider dealings while performing acts as a public servant. This is nothing new, without doubt. What raises an eyebrow for me relating to Hillary is that she accepted tons of cash from the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia while being fully informed that the KSA was funding ISIS. This is unforgivable treason in my opinion. I simply cannot overlook that behavior.

By all appearances, the USA has reached a crossroads. I tend to believe that the will of the people will be heard loud and clear post November elections. The federal government's persistent erosion of civil liberties (not to mention demonizing opinions that run counter to big brother's mandate) has created a rift. The only question that remains is if there are more rugged individualists existing now in the USA vs. socialist leaning people. Hillary represents socialism. Trump represents individualism. Nothing is murky here. Take your pick.

[Puccipleaser]

I think the best thing to come from this years election is that more Americans finally see the need of a 3rd major political party. You want to talk extremists? The left and the right are both extreme! So many people are loyal to a political party, but their nominee does not fall in line with their beliefs. That's stupidity and ignorance at its best. I'm not going to vote for someone just because I may have an affiliation with a political party. I will vote THIS year for the person who will do the LEAST amount of damage for the next 4 years. I can promise you this........whomever wins won't be 2 terms!

[veedub63]

Originally Posted by Puccipleaser

I think the best thing to come from this years election is that more Americans finally see the need of a 3rd major political party. You want to talk extremists? The left and the right are both extreme! So many people are loyal to a political party, but their nominee does not fall in line with their beliefs. That's stupidity and ignorance at its best. I'm not going to vote for someone just because I may have an affiliation with a political party. I will vote THIS year for the person who will do the LEAST amount of damage for the next 4 years. I can promise you this........whomever wins won't be 2 terms!

Actually (and I'm in no way arguing with you here - I'm simply biased against political parties), I believe that we are seeing the beginning of the end of "political parties'' altogether. The Internet has created a very inexpensive platform for independent candidates to make their case. Millenials simply don't watch television similar to the older generations. The days of the billion dollar commercial deluge are over and done with. Trump has made it spectacularly clear that 140 characters is really all you need.

I believe that "independents" will eventually flush out both Rs and Ds. For the sake of the USA, I hope so.

[sue_nami]

we need a multi party system. I see 8 parties ( four on each side) already viable. green, socialist, progressive (Bernie) , centrist democrats (Hillary), centrist republicans, tea party (Cruz), libertarian (Johnson), and Nationalists ( for lack of a better defining word) (Trump). I am sure there are more but these 8 are already viable to start a multi party system here. I hope this is the death of the 2 party system.

[nuglet]

y'all need to keep in mind, who you vote for really makes no difference as long as the gov hangs onto the Electoral College.. your vote, unfortunately really doesn't count, it's merely a suggestion to the ones that actually put the Prez in office.. disgusting as that is.. We've had a couple of "elected" professionals, that did NOT get the majority of the popular vote..

[SecretE]

There are reports that a copy of the 33000 emails has been found. If that is released, and is authentic, it might be game over for HRC. Otherwise, I think too many Americans were offended by those 5 words more than HRC's and various media networks corruption, collusion, and unethical behavior.

[Austin Ellen]

Also, in play in the "Secret Trump Voter" - those folks who don't want anyone to know that they support the Donald but don't want to put a vote Trump sign in their yard for fear of what the neighbors think. But once they get in the voting booth - no one will see who they really are voting for. You can actually google this - it's real. I'm not one of these folks because I love the Donald. And for those folks that are offended by what he says - damn, people get in the real world-hang out with some U.S. Marines - those guys will make what the Donald said tame.

[nuglet]

With trump, it depends on how much traction the rape allegation gets. It's just been put on the table, from the past.. It's just sad these two are the only "recognized" options. Sanders is still an option..

[Skip_8]

Some people are just ignorant to the facts and are just going on by who seems nice....lol.

I know it's laughable.


It would be interesting what a poll conducted by Pravda, I mean RT, would look like.

Originally Posted by SecretE

There are reports that a copy of the 33000 emails has been found. If that is released, and is authentic, it might be game over for HRC. Otherwise, I think too many Americans were offended by those 5 words more than HRC's and various media networks corruption, collusion, and unethical behavior.

[Austin Ellen]

That's just a distraction. Just like it was with Bill Clinton. Although, I think Bill Clinton is a sexual predator - I think, The Donald just loves women and he does what guys do. And I would like to add - that I rather be grabbed by the pussy then be governed by one. I can't stand Hillary.

Originally Posted by nuglet

With trump, it depends on how much traction the rape allegation gets. It's just been put on the table, from the past.. It's just sad these two are the only "recognized" options. Sanders is still an option..

[Little Monster]

Originally Posted by veedub63

I don't know whether Trump is a dumb-ass or not. America should be more embarrassed by Obama's actions rather than Trump's words. Admittedly, Trump is abrasive at times with his words. The leaked "lewd" tape was especially awful.

I strongly beg to differ. Obama is not the one who led us into a senseless war over nothing that cost us over a trillion dollars a day. The Republicans did. Obama inherited a complete mess and did a pretty damn good job cleaning it up. The republican controlled Congress & Senate literally tried to block everything that man tried to do to help us just to make him look bad, and they are the first one to always scream America first yet they they pull shit like that. That is NOT making America "Great" at all. The world has a much more favorable opinion on Obama than they do Trump by far


Hillary, on the other hand, is the typical government insider. A self made millionaire derived solely from insider dealings while performing acts as a public servant. This is nothing new, without doubt. What raises an eyebrow for me relating to Hillary is that she accepted tons of cash from the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia while being fully informed that the KSA was funding ISIS. This is unforgivable treason in my opinion. I simply cannot overlook that behavior.

You said the key word Hillary is a "SELF" made millionaire unlike Trump who was born with a silver spoon in the mouth and yet the dipshit still went bankrupt. It's real easy to sit on the sidelines and criticize Hillary for taking money from one of our closest allies, but let's face it any one of us on this board would accept millions of dollars waved in our faces if it was offered to any one of us. Your damn right i would take the fucken money and then I would go have me a week long Fivesome with Two fine ass blondes and two fine ass redheads. Hillary is an insider shark and that is exactly what we need admit it or not. Where does Trump get his money from??? Ripping people off, Trump university, Trump Tower need I say say more?? The man is fraud and nothing more

By all appearances, the USA has reached a crossroads. I tend to believe that the will of the people will be heard loud and clear post November elections. The federal government's persistent erosion of civil liberties (not to mention demonizing opinions that run counter to big brother's mandate) has created a rift. The only question that remains is if there are more rugged individualists existing now in the USA vs. socialist leaning people. Hillary represents socialism. Trump represents individualism. Nothing is murky here. Take your pick.

Can you please give me one example of "Eroding civil Liberties" or Hillary supporting socialism. All that shit is cry baby propaganda period!! All talk No Fact! I find it funny how you mention ISIS, cause that is a prime example of how Trump is catering to the lowest common denominator in this country. Trump is trying his hardest to tie ISIS to Hillary, meanwhile Hillary had absolutely nothing to do with ISIS's existence. Anyone who keeps up with current affairs and is educated & informed knows how ISIS came to be.

So for the uninformed ignorant dumb fucks who are too lazy to do research I will explain. Who led us into the Iraq War??? George Bush and the Republicans, they sent our troops over there and took out Saddam who did a much better job keeping law & order over there than anybody since he's been gone. After we took him out what happened??? Shit went chaotic did it not?? Does the name "Abu Ghraib" ring any bells to you??? That was the turning point in the war hands down. The Arab world supported our efforts until videos got leaked of our "honorable" troops abusing and torturing the so called terrorist suspects, and then what happened??? Does the name Al Zarqawi ring any bells??? Yep that scandal led to his rise and what happened?? we started getting our asses kicked over there. Yes we took him out but what happened to his followers??? They formed ISIS!!!! So no, sorry but Hillary had nothing to do with ISIS. Bush's war did PERIOD!!

And the funny thing is ISIS is NOT our most dangerous enemy like Trump says, they fight with sticks and stones. But you know who is our most dangerous enemy?? RUSSIA!! and who does Trump want to buddy up to??? RUSSIA!!

There is a reason why Trump is only leading among ONE voting block and that is uneducated, ignorant, deplorable dumb asses. Cause anyone who knows how to spell their own name correctly knows better than to vote for a guy like that. You cannot alienate yourself from the very party you are representing let alone every other major voting block and win an election. Just not possible.

Come election night Hillary supporters will be smiling NOT the Trump dumb asses!!

[goobersnotch]

I still don't get why anyone here supports republicans. Their christian conservatism is a direct threat to our hobby. If you're rich and just want more tax cuts, support the libertarians instead.

[endurance]

Woah, gonna have to cut you off - too much kool-aid for you... honestly, you can't believe half that crap you just said lol

Originally Posted by Little Monster

Can you please give me one example of "Eroding civil Liberties" or Hillary supporting socialism. All that shit is cry baby propaganda period!! All talk No Fact! I find it funny how you mention ISIS, cause that is a prime example of how Trump is catering to the lowest common denominator in this country. Trump is trying his hardest to tie ISIS to Hillary, meanwhile Hillary had absolutely nothing to do with ISIS's existence. Anyone who keeps up with current affairs and is educated & informed knows how ISIS came to be.

So for the uninformed ignorant dumb fucks who are too lazy to do research I will explain. Who led us into the Iraq War??? George Bush and the Republicans, they sent our troops over there and took out Saddam who did a much better job keeping law & order over there than anybody since he's been gone. After we took him out what happened??? Shit went chaotic did it not?? Does the name "Abu Ghraib" ring any bells to you??? That was the turning point in the war hands down. The Arab world supported our efforts until videos got leaked of our "honorable" troops abusing and torturing the so called terrorist suspects, and then what happened??? Does the name Al Zarqawi ring any bells??? Yep that scandal led to his rise and what happened?? we started getting our asses kicked over there. Yes we took him out but what happened to his followers??? They formed ISIS!!!! So no, sorry but Hillary had nothing to do with ISIS. Bush's war did PERIOD!!

And the funny thing is ISIS is NOT our most dangerous enemy like Trump says, they fight with sticks and stones. But you know who is our most dangerous enemy?? RUSSIA!! and who does Trump want to buddy up to??? RUSSIA!!

There is a reason why Trump is only leading among ONE voting block and that is uneducated, ignorant, deplorable dumb asses. Cause anyone who knows how to spell their own name correctly knows better than to vote for a guy like that. You cannot alienate yourself from the very party you are representing let alone every other major voting block and win an election. Just not possible.

Come election night Hillary supporters will be smiling NOT the Trump dumb asses!!

[veedub63]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

Can you please give me one example of "Eroding civil Liberties" or Hillary supporting socialism. All that shit is cry baby propaganda period!! All talk No Fact! I find it funny how you mention ISIS, cause that is a prime example of how Trump is catering to the lowest common denominator in this country. Trump is trying his hardest to tie ISIS to Hillary, meanwhile Hillary had absolutely nothing to do with ISIS's existence. Anyone who keeps up with current affairs and is educated & informed knows how ISIS came to be.

So for the uninformed ignorant dumb fucks who are too lazy to do research I will explain. Who led us into the Iraq War??? George Bush and the Republicans, they sent our troops over there and took out Saddam who did a much better job keeping law & order over there than anybody since he's been gone. After we took him out what happened??? Shit went chaotic did it not?? Does the name "Abu Ghraib" ring any bells to you??? That was the turning point in the war hands down. The Arab world supported our efforts until videos got leaked of our "honorable" troops abusing and torturing the so called terrorist suspects, and then what happened??? Does the name Al Zarqawi ring any bells??? Yep that scandal led to his rise and what happened?? we started getting our asses kicked over there. Yes we took him out but what happened to his followers??? They formed ISIS!!!! So no, sorry but Hillary had nothing to do with ISIS. Bush's war did PERIOD!!

And the funny thing is ISIS is NOT our most dangerous enemy like Trump says, they fight with sticks and stones. But you know who is our most dangerous enemy?? RUSSIA!! and who does Trump want to buddy up to??? RUSSIA!!

There is a reason why Trump is only leading among ONE voting block and that is uneducated, ignorant, deplorable dumb asses. Cause anyone who knows how to spell their own name correctly knows better than to vote for a guy like that. You cannot alienate yourself from the very party you are representing let alone every other major voting block and win an election. Just not possible.

Come election night Hillary supporters will be smiling NOT the Trump dumb asses!!

One example of the erosion of civil liberties = The Patriot Act

I do believe you hit that nail on the head with you statement "alienate yourself from the very party you are representing". Trump is representative of the interests of "the people". He isn't cowering to a party or towing the party line. The artificial line between Rs and Ds has been exposed. They are one and the same. Neither of which cares about anything other than protecting their position of perceived authority.

Years from now, when historians have a chance to take a broad look at today's happenings, I suspect the word "revolution" will be used. The citizens are sick and tired of being given the shit end of the stick and they want their country back. To hell with foreign interests, to hell with foreign wars, to hell with unabated immigration, to hell with corporate superiority. Viva la Revolucion!

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

That's just a distraction. Just like it was with Bill Clinton. Although, I think Bill Clinton is a sexual predator - I think, The Donald just loves women and he does what guys do. And I would like to add - that I rather be grabbed by the pussy then be governed by one. I can't stand Hillary.

". . . he does what guys do." Bullshit. I don't believe some of the new claims made against Trump, but to say that he acts like most men is a slap against most men. High school boys sometimes engage in the so-called "locker room" talk. Trump did it at the age of 59!!! And I never heard a HS boy call out a female by name in the locker room as Trump did. That goes over a line.

If only men voted in the upcoming election, Trump would win. Clinton will win because women are voting for Clintion/against Trump by record numbers.

Look, I wish the election would come down to people voting for the person they believe is best to lead the country over the next 4 years. Unfortunately it has descended into a name-calling contest. Neither Trump nor Clinton will win, but one will lose.