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Old 09-20-2016, 09:29 AM   #1
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Default Trump Won Tax Breaks While Donating Tens Of Thousands To Corrupt Official Sounds familiar.

How do you defend this, Trumpites? He's admitted he routinely bought off politicians.

I guess he did that because liberals are pigs, and you don't care if .drumpf is a fucking criminal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0071a6e05666b
Trump Won Tax Breaks While Donating Tens Of Thousands To Corrupt Official
Sounds familiar.

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Christina Wilkie National Political Reporter, The Huffington Post

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump gave at least $45,000 to the campaign of Alan Hevesi, a New York state comptroller who later went to prison for his role in a pay-to-play bribery scandal, according to a Huffington Post review of campaign finance records.

Trump’s donations coincided with a $500 million lawsuit he filed against the city of New York in the hopes of reducing his property taxes. As the city comptroller and later the state comptroller, Hevesi, a Democrat, played a role in evaluating and settling legal claims against the city of New York and its officials.

The bulk of Trump’s donations went to Hevesi’s campaign for state comptroller, a race Hevesi won in the fall of 2002. In the fall of 2003, by which point Trump had given Hevesi $35,000, the city settled Trump’s lawsuit, a decision that would have involved both the state comptroller ― i.e., Hevesi ― and the new city comptroller.

The city reduced the tax assessment for Trump’s newest building by 17 percent and awarded the building a special tax abatement. In exchange, Trump agreed to subsidize 200 units of affordable housing in the Bronx. The settlement saved Trump $97 million in taxes he didn’t have to pay, he later wrote in Trump: How To Get Rich.

Trump had donated small amounts to Hevesi during the course of Hevesi’s decades-long career as an assemblyman and a comptroller. But the tens of thousands of dollars Trump gave between July 2002 and January 2004 had no precedent, and no postscript. According to finance records, after 2004, Trump never gave to Hevesi again.

During that same time, Hevesi began accepting bribes from a California businessman, Elliott Broidy, in exchange for steering state money to Broidy’s financial management firm. Hevesi and Broidy both eventually pleaded guilty to felonies in the ensuing corruption scandal.

Broidy is now a major fundraiser for Trump’s presidential campaign. He’s also the vice chairman of Trump’s joint fundraising effort with the Republican National Committee, called Trump Victory. During the time he was bribing Hevesi to steer him business, Broidy and his wife donated at least $126,800 to Hevesi’s campaign war chest, more than double what Trump gave.

The donations were uncovered by the Democratic Coalition Against Trump, a super PAC supporting Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

There’s no evidence the contributions to Hevesi were bribes, or that anything untoward happened. But using his political donations to exercise influence over city and state governments has long been part of the way Trump does business. All told, Trump’s 15 core building developments in New York have benefited from an estimated $885 million in tax breaks and subsidies since the late 1980s.

A Web Of Influence

During Trump’s greatest building years, in the 1980s and 1990s, he was known in New York power circles as a reliable political contributor. But by 2002, “Trump had faded as a giver in New York politics,” says Trump biographer Wayne Barrett.

The $45,000 to Hevesi “was very much out of character for Trump at the time,” Barrett told The Huffington Post. “I have no doubt that Trump had some sort of a reason to give, something he wanted.”

The timing of Trump’s lawsuit coincides almost exactly with the donations to Hevesi. But Trump’s political contributions often overlap and intertwine with his business interests. For instance, in 2002 Trump also applied for (and received) $150,000 earmarked to help small companies recover from the Sept. 11 terror attacks. And he lobbied ferociously in 2002 and 2003 to block the expansion of Native American casinos in New York state because they drew customers away from his casinos in Atlantic City.

A spokeswoman for the Trump campaign did not respond to HuffPost’s questions about Trump’s contributions to Hevesi. HuffPost was unable to reach Hevesi, who was released from prison four years ago at age 72.

Trump has made no secret over the years about his use of campaign donations to influence public policy to benefit his business interests. “As a businessman and a very substantial donor to very important people, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do,” Trump told The Wall Street Journal in 2015.

Trump’s donations to Hevesi between 2002 and 2004 all appear to have been individual donations, and there is no explicit indication of wrongdoing by either Trump or Hevesi.

But the glut of donations to a state official who oversees legal settlements, at the exact same time that Trump was pressing for just such a settlement, gives the impression that Trump was likely currying Hevesi’s good favor in his case.

A Crime Of Influence

Other actions Hevesi took during his tenure as state comptroller made his name synonymous with official corruption. Between 2003 and 2005, Hevesi steered $250 million in state pension funds to Broidy’s California investment firm, Markstone Capital Partners. In exchange, Broidy gave Hevesi and his colleagues hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts, travel and campaign contributions.

Hevesi pleaded guilty in 2010 to having accepted the bribes, and was sentenced to a maximum of four years in prison. He served 20 months and was released in 2012. Broidy pleaded guilty to a felony count of rewarding official misconduct, but he did not serve jail time.

The role of Elliott Broidy, at right, in Trump’s campaign could present a sticky issue for the GOP nominee, who opposes voting rights for convicted felons.
Broidy’s current role in Trump’s campaign could present a sticky issue for the GOP nominee, who opposes voting rights for convicted felons. Trump accused Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) of “getting thousands of violent felons to the voting booths in effort to cancel out the votes of both law enforcement and crime victims” during a campaign stop in the state earlier this year.

A spokeswoman for Trump’s campaign did not respond to HuffPost’s questions about whether Trump thinks Broidy should be allowed to vote. An email to Broidy was not returned.

A Pattern Of Influence?

Trump’s connections to Hevesi, Broidy and the corruption in New York feed into a narrative that Trump and his campaign have been trying to counter, but that political opponents believe is crucial to understanding the Republican nominee.

Trump is already facing criticism over another political donation he made, this one in 2013 to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. Like his contribution to Hevesi, a Democrat, Trump’s donation to Bondi, a Republican, coincided with a legal problem the brash Manhattan businessman was facing. In that case, Trump used his charitable foundation to give $25,000 to a political action committee backing Bondi’s re-election campaign.

The Bondi gift violated IRS rules that govern nonprofit foundations like the Trump Foundation, and prohibit them from donating to political committees. The gift also came a few days before it became public that Bondi’s office was considering whether to pursue a case against Trump University, the Republican nominee’s now-defunct seminar program. Bondi ultimately did not take any further action on Trump University.

“Trump’s ties to decades of political corruption in New York, and his shady donations in Florida, all point to a candidate and a businessman who thinks he can use his money to make the government work for him,” said Scott Dworkin, a senior adviser to the Democratic super PAC that uncovered the donations.

Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee asked the Department of Justice last week to investigate Trump’s contribution to Bondi.
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Old 09-20-2016, 10:31 AM   #2
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Old 09-20-2016, 10:41 AM   #3
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YouRong..

... runs through the forum posting stupid shit...

... screaming .... LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!!


(Got nothing to say, but he just posts shit THREADS!)
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:19 PM   #4
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I don't believe Mr. Trump was convicted of any crime concerning his political donations, so you unless everyone who donated to that corrupt Democrat is guilty by association, you have no case, and Mr. Trump is innocent.
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:43 PM   #5
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He does that shit all the time ... bribe a Florida AG, pay a $2500 fine, and nothing else gets mentioned ..


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...torney-general


and the Trumpuppets love it.
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:33 AM   #6
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Trump may not be clean, but nothing compares to the depth of corruption, lies and ineptitude of Hillary Clinton. Hillary has been in the business of accepting bribes for 40 years. It won't stop when she's President. She is the most vile, despicable, corrupt, dishonest and incompetent candidate in history. That is a fact.
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Trump may not be clean, but nothing compares to the depth of corruption, lies and ineptitude of Hillary Clinton. Hillary has been in the business of accepting bribes for 40 years. It won't stop when she's President. She is the most vile, despicable, corrupt, dishonest and incompetent candidate in history. That is a fact.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:48 AM   #8
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Trump may not be clean, but nothing compares to the depth of corruption, lies and ineptitude of Hillary Clinton. Hillary has been in the business of accepting bribes for 40 years. It won't stop when she's President. She is the most vile, despicable, corrupt, dishonest and incompetent candidate in history. That is a fact.
You two bit hypocritical hack. How long have you been on here crying about folks that excused their corrupt political bullshit because the other party did the exact same thing? Weren't you a proponent of ethical politicians?

Take your snake like morals and shove them up your gay ass while you fantasize about Trump...as he runs this country into the ground.

You and your ilk make me embarrassed to call myself American without the disclaimer "But I'm nothing like that stupid cocksucker COG."

The next time you lie about being a libertarian ....hopefully someone around you will slap your silly ass into fucking North Korea where you can see first hand how a closed no trade society Trump expounds is like.
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I don't excuse it, but we can't afford four years of Hillary. If there were a better alternative that had a chance of defeating her, I'd happily take it. But you make a valid point. But in all honesty, bribing officials is a standard business practice, and pales in comparison to eliminating opponents. But I do see your point.
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You two bit hypocritical hack. How long have you been on here crying about folks that excused their corrupt political bullshit because the other party did the exact same thing? Weren't you a proponent of ethical politicians?

Take your snake like morals and shove them up your gay ass while you fantasize about Trump...as he runs this country into the ground.

You and your ilk make me embarrassed to call myself American without the disclaimer "But I'm nothing like that stupid cocksucker COG."

The next time you lie about being a libertarian ....hopefully someone around you will slap your silly ass into fucking North Korea where you can see first hand how a closed no trade society Trump expounds is like.

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I still think the more important issue is keeping Hillary out of office. I've made that clear. Trump is not my first choice, but he is the only one with a chance, however small, of defeating Hillary. And if you compare the two on a corruption and dishonesty scale, Trump does not come close to Hillary. Hillary is, by far and away, the most vile, corrupt, dishonest and incompetent person to ever run for President. I don't like sacrificing my values, but it's better than sacrificing my country.
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Trump is operating under the rules established by the politicians.

what you're seeing is in effect a "pay to play" system depending on how its setup & established by the politicians to accept under the table bribes.

this is the condition most businesses have to put up with these politicians if they want anything done.

I don't excuse him for doing what he did.

Compared to Hillary & Trump, I do not like both of them, but Trump is a better alternative. I see him as the least corrupt of the 2.

As I've said before, Trump is operating under the rules established by the politicians.

Hillary is very much in the position to create conditions to run a pay to play system. She is the end user of that system and seeks to profit from it.
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