Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > General Interest > The Political Forum
test
The Political Forum Discuss anything related to politics in this forum. World politics, US Politics, State and Local.

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 650
MoneyManMatt 490
Jon Bon 400
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Harley Diablo 377
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
Starscream66 282
You&Me 281
George Spelvin 270
sharkman29 256
Top Posters
DallasRain70831
biomed163764
Yssup Rider61304
gman4453377
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48840
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino43221
The_Waco_Kid37431
CryptKicker37231
Mokoa36497
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-28-2016, 10:44 AM   #1
Yssup Rider
Valued Poster
 
Yssup Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
Posts: 61,304
Encounters: 67
Default Drumpf has small hands, but a massive Catholic problem

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...holic-problem/
The Fix
Donald Trump has a massive Catholic problem

By Aaron Blake August 28 at 8:00 AM

Pope Francis, left, has suggested that anyone who wants to build a border wall “is not Christian.” Donald Trump, right, said it is “disgraceful” for religious leaders to question someone’s faith. (Pool via Reuters)
Much has been made of Donald Trump’s problems with a few voting groups — female voters, blacks and Hispanics, and young voters, in particular. And, to be sure, they are all problems.

But relatively speaking, his biggest problem actually appears to be with a different group: Catholics.

Yes, the man who once feuded with the pope (how soon we forget that actually happened) is cratering among Catholics.

Back in 2012, GOP nominee Mitt Romney lost the Catholic vote by just 2 points, 50 percent to 48 percent. And the GOP has actually won the Catholic vote as recently as 2004 and in 5 of the last 10 presidential elections.

The Catholic vote was neck-and-neck in 2012
01020304050Obama50%Romney48%
Source: Exit polls
THE FIX
But Trump trails among Catholics by a huge margin. A new poll from the Public Religion Research Institute released this week shows him down 23 points, 55-32.

PRRI poll shows Clinton leading by 23 among Catholics
01020304050Clinton55%Trump32%
Source: PRRI

THE FIX
A Washington Post-ABC News poll released earlier this month painted an even worse picture for Trump’s Catholic support. He was down by 27 points, 61-34.

WaPo-ABC poll shows Clinton leading Catholics by 27
0102030405060Clinton61%Trump34 %
Source: Washington Post-ABC News

THE FIX
If you compare the difference between Romney’s margin among Catholics in 2012 and Trump’s margin among Catholics this year, the 25-point difference is tied for the biggest shift of any demographic group in the Post-ABC poll.

Catholics have shifted most toward Clinton of any group
For each demographic, the + number is how much better Clinton's margin is than President Obama's was in 2012. So since Clinton leads by 8 points nationally and Obama won by 4, among all voters she is +4.
0510152025All+4Democrats+2Repu blicans+15Independents+118-29+330-49+250-64+1865++21White evangelical+16Protestant+19Cat holic+25
Source: Washington Post-ABC News poll

THE FIX
(The only group that matches that 25-point shift is white, college-educated women. Romney won them by 6 points; Trump trails by 19.)

Trump’s deficits among non-whites and young voters, by contrast, are similar to where Romney and Republicans have been in recent years. The Post-ABC poll, in fact, showed Hillary Clinton failing to match Obama’s margin among non-whites — though not in a statistically meaningful way — while her margin among young voters ages 18-to-29 was three points better.

These are groups, in other words, that Republicans don’t expect to do well with. And they still don’t.

But Catholics have long been a swing vote in presidential elections, and right now they’re swinging hard for Clinton.

It’s also hard to overstate just how significant Trump’s poor performance among Catholics is. That’s because they comprise about one-quarter of voters in the United States (25 percent in 2012 exit polls) and are about as big a voting bloc as non-whites (28 percent) and independents (29 percent).

While we often look at how Trump is doing worse than Romney among Hispanics, we’re really talking about the difference between Trump taking 45 percent of the vote and 46 percent — or maybe 49.5 percent or 50.5 percent. That’s because Hispanics are only about 10 percent of the electorate, and the GOP’s share of that vote is likely to be between 20 and 35 percent or so.

When talking about Catholics, though, Trump is basically adding 5 to 7 percentage points to Clinton’s overall margin. If 25 percent of the electorate is Catholic, Clinton is currently taking 14 to 15 points worth of that chunk, while Trump is taking 8 or 8.5 points. And this is a group, again, that is usually close to tied.

The reasons for Trump’s struggles among this group are open to interpretation. Perhaps Pope Francis’s criticism of Trump and Trump’s surprisingly confrontational response have turned off Catholics to Trump’s candidacy.

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian," the pope said in February when asked about Trump’s border wall.

As the Religion News Services’s John Gehring recently posited, it could also have something to do with Trump’s immigration policies:

Part of Catholics’ DNA is an appreciation for how Irish and other immigrants toiled and thrived in the shadow of a suspicious, fiercely anti-Catholic culture dominated by white Anglo-Saxon Protestants. ...

When Trump calls for a religious test for Muslims entering the country; questions the faith of Hillary Clinton, President Obama and Mitt Romney; and demonizes undocumented immigrants as “rapists,” it’s a reminder of the ugly nativism that Catholics once faced.

While this contemporary strain of old xenophobia is particularly felt by Latinos who increasingly are the face of the Catholic Church in the United States, many white Catholics surely take pride in family stories of grandparents and great-grandparents who were strangers in a new land. Trump has dug himself a deep hole he is unlikely to climb out of with these voters.

But whatever the cause, Trump’s struggles among Catholics remains one of the really undersold story lines of the 2016 election.

514 Comments
Yssup Rider is offline   Quote
Old 08-28-2016, 10:47 AM   #2
IIFFOFRDB
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jun 19, 2011
Location: Dixie Land
Posts: 22,098
Default

Liberal Catholics don't support Trump, Who knew?

Everyone except a Shit Eater named Urinal Lips...


IIFFOFRDB is offline   Quote
Old 08-28-2016, 12:31 PM   #3
R.M.
Not A Stepford Wife
 
R.M.'s Avatar
 
User ID: 14483
Join Date: Feb 14, 2010
Location: Decatur Denton♀️ Dallas Midland
My Bio Page
Posts: 8,213
My ECCIE Reviews
Default

Dude you are just as eat up about the chance of Trump winning as all my lefty actor friends are.
R.M. is offline   Quote
Old 08-28-2016, 01:18 PM   #4
LexusLover
Valued Poster
 
LexusLover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 51,038
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.M. View Post
Dude you are just as eat up about the chance of Trump winning as all my lefty actor friends are.
He fears his free stuff won't be available any more!
LexusLover is offline   Quote
Old 08-28-2016, 02:29 PM   #5
R.M.
Not A Stepford Wife
 
R.M.'s Avatar
 
User ID: 14483
Join Date: Feb 14, 2010
Location: Decatur Denton♀️ Dallas Midland
My Bio Page
Posts: 8,213
My ECCIE Reviews
Default

His reviews kinda scream that huh?
R.M. is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 12:01 AM   #6
Yssup Rider
Valued Poster
 
Yssup Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
Posts: 61,304
Encounters: 67
Default

Wow.

I'm still waiting for LLephantMan's fist review. What's it been, 40 years or so?

LMAO!
Yssup Rider is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 02:05 AM   #7
R.M.
Not A Stepford Wife
 
R.M.'s Avatar
 
User ID: 14483
Join Date: Feb 14, 2010
Location: Decatur Denton♀️ Dallas Midland
My Bio Page
Posts: 8,213
My ECCIE Reviews
Default

You are suck a weak little man. So unattractive.
R.M. is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 07:35 AM   #8
LexusLover
Valued Poster
 
LexusLover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 51,038
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.M. View Post
His reviews kinda scream that huh?
I pay so I don't have to review.
LexusLover is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 07:37 AM   #9
R.M.
Not A Stepford Wife
 
R.M.'s Avatar
 
User ID: 14483
Join Date: Feb 14, 2010
Location: Decatur Denton♀️ Dallas Midland
My Bio Page
Posts: 8,213
My ECCIE Reviews
Default

I think that goes over his head.
R.M. is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 07:42 AM   #10
LexusLover
Valued Poster
 
LexusLover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 51,038
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.M. View Post
I think that goes over his head.
Or through it ...

....... in one ear and out the other without impediment.
LexusLover is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 08:11 AM   #11
dilbert firestorm
Valued Poster
 
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 9, 2010
Location: Nuclear Wasteland BBS, New Orleans, LA, USA
Posts: 31,921
Encounters: 4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LexusLover View Post
I pay so I don't have to review.
doing reviews is work.
dilbert firestorm is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 08:13 AM   #12
dilbert firestorm
Valued Poster
 
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 9, 2010
Location: Nuclear Wasteland BBS, New Orleans, LA, USA
Posts: 31,921
Encounters: 4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LexusLover View Post
Or through it ...

....... in one ear and out the other without impediment.
garbage in, garbage out.

or in this case... piggy in (oink oink), piggy (oink oink)
dilbert firestorm is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 08:30 AM   #13
DSK
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Dec 30, 2014
Location: DFW
Posts: 8,050
Encounters: 19
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yssup Rider View Post
Wow.

I'm still waiting for LLephantMan's fist review. What's it been, 40 years or so?

LMAO!
You realize splitting the electorate into every conceivable group and turning them against the other side, and demonizing the other candidate, contributes to the divided country we have, don't you?
DSK is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 08:39 AM   #14
i'va biggen
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2011
Location: kansas
Posts: 28,773
Encounters: 17
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm View Post
garbage in, garbage out.

or in this case... piggy in (oink oink), piggy (oink oink)


Dildo and his buds........
i'va biggen is offline   Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 08:40 AM   #15
LexusLover
Valued Poster
 
LexusLover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 51,038
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm View Post
doing reviews is work.
Being creative is always strenuous for some....particularly YouRong!

Actually, there are a sufficient number of ladies who will not even see someone who posts on Eccie, and refuse to see those who review (or who they are concerned will review)..to justify not doing them.

(I NEVER was into bragging about fucking and eating pussy! In my early RW days that made more of it available. Same in the hobby! A lot of married women don't like the gossip!)
LexusLover is offline   Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved