Just wondering

[larryheadboard]

Is it illegal to publish a ad for services which discriminates because of race, or targets one particular group? If this particular type of advertisement is consistently being published, can the Equality and Human Rights Commission can take court action against the publisher or provider?

[Prolongus]

Is this your way of scaring the girls in to dropping their NBA policy?

Just wondering...

[Prolongus]

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[VegasJen]

It's illegal to publish an ad for these types of services in the first place. Does it really matter beyond that? That said, discrimination in and of itself is not illegal to begin with. Only when it is regarding certain things such as hiring practices and government assistance. There are specific laws written regarding such areas. Aside from that, it may be bad taste and highly offensive to some, but it's not illegal. At least not on a grand scale. There may be some areas that have more strict local laws.

[tandyscone]

Originally Posted by VegasJen

It's illegal to publish an ad for these types of services in the first place. Does it really matter beyond that? That said, discrimination in and of itself is not illegal to begin with. Only when it is regarding certain things such as hiring practices and government assistance. There are specific laws written regarding such areas. Aside from that, it may be bad taste and highly offensive to some, but it's not illegal. At least not on a grand scale. There may be some areas that have more strict local laws.

Public accommodations are included in the things where discrimination is illegal. That covers most businesses. But you're right that since the hobby is illegal, one can hardly seek legal recourse for a provider with an nba policy.

[CoverMe]

Originally Posted by tandyscone

....one can hardly seek legal recourse for a provider with an nba policy.

But if she's on Food Stamps or her incall is in Section 8 housing, you might have a case.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by larryheadboard

Is it illegal to publish a ad for services which discriminates because of race, or targets one particular group? If this particular type of advertisement is consistently being published, can the Equality and Human Rights Commission can take court action against the publisher or provider?

So let's hypothesize here and say this lady has a serious fear of you because you are a 120 y/o eight foot tall green skinned Martian with three eyes. However:

--You threaten her with a discrimination charge
--She drops her "No 120 y/o eight foot tall green skinned Martians"
--You see her
--She cringes and is clearly uncomfortable and frightened the entire time
--Performance, chemistry, and conversation are all horrid
--She is looking at the clock every minute, hoping it will race forward
--She posts on the lady's forum that she (honestly) had a wretched time and you made her feel afraid the entire time

So what did you really accomplish?

[DakineOne777]

If this hobby were legal, stationed in a brick & mortar building, and operated as a public (not private) business...then it would be very illegal to deny services to anyone based solely on gender, race, religion and all of the rest of the protected classes.

But until that day comes, there ain't much you can do about it.

[papadee]

Originally Posted by Old-T

So let's hypothesize here and say this lady has a serious fear of you because you are a 120 y/o eight foot tall green skinned Martian with three eyes. However:

--You threaten her with a discrimination charge
--She drops her "No 120 y/o eight foot tall green skinned Martians"
--You see her
--She cringes and is clearly uncomfortable and frightened the entire time
--Performance, chemistry, and conversation are all horrid
--She is looking at the clock every minute, hoping it will race forward
--She posts on the lady's forum that she (honestly) had a wretched time and you made her feel afraid the entire time

So what did you really accomplish?

HE got to meet the woman of his fantasy. HE accomplished his goal.

[James1588]

Originally Posted by DakineOne777

If this hobby were legal, stationed in a brick & mortar building, and operated as a public (not private) business...then it would be very illegal to deny services to anyone based solely on gender, race, religion and all of the rest of the protected classes.

But until that day comes, there ain't much you can do about it.

A useful illustration of the difference between "legalization" and decriminalization.

A "legalized" sex worker works as the government says she must. She's working in a virtual brothel, with Uncle Sam as Head Madam. She has that famous psychotic-looking dude with the white chin beard and the tall red-white-and-blue hat as her pimp.

With decriminalization, she works as she pleases, and her work isn't something she can be arrested for.

Neither one's actually going to happen, so it pretty much doesn't matter. But if "legalization" happened tomorrow, I'd hope that some of the women would remain illegal (and free). And those would be the ladies I'd do business with ... on principle.

[DakineOne777]

Originally Posted by papadee

HE got to meet the woman of his fantasy. HE accomplished his goal.

Why do you assume that it was a HE???
Coulda been a very tall horny FEMALE martian

Originally Posted by James1588

A useful illustration of the difference between "legalization" and decriminalization.

A "legalized" sex worker works as the government says she must. She's working in a virtual brothel, with Uncle Sam as Head Madam. She has that famous psychotic-looking dude with the white chin beard and the tall red-white-and-blue hat as her pimp.

With decriminalization, she works as she pleases, and her work isn't something she can be arrested for.

Neither one's actually going to happen, so it pretty much doesn't matter. But if "legalization" happened tomorrow, I'd hope that some of the women would remain illegal (and free). And those would be the ladies I'd do business with ... on principle.

Agreed

[Bobave]

Originally Posted by Prolongus

Is this your way of scaring the girls in to dropping their NBA policy?

Yeah, I think it is. The irony is this -

Anyone who has been around the hobby for more than a few years has noticed a not-so-strange correlation between the accumulation of such attempts to intimidate providers, with the growing number of providers who post ads using the words, "no AA men".

You would think that eventually some opinion leaders among the anti-NBA crowd would recognize the counter-productive futility of haranguing the girls... but it doesn't seem to have sunk in...

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by papadee

HE got to meet the woman of his fantasy. HE accomplished his goal.

I wonder about that. Yes, he met her. If that is all he cares about, true. But I suspect the sex would be bad and the atmosphere toxic as well. It would seem the only way to enjoy that is if the client was borderline into a rape fantasy.

Additionally he/she would probably get some really bad press within the ladies' community, meaning future attempts to meet with ladies who do NOT have a No Martian policy would reject the meeting based upon the warning posts.

Is that REALLY a "win"?

[Ed Highlight]

Originally Posted by larryheadboard

Is it illegal to publish a ad for services which discriminates because of race, or targets one particular group? If this particular type of advertisement is consistently being published, can the Equality and Human Rights Commission can take court action against the publisher or provider?

Lawrence, you make an excellent point - Can't wait to see which one of this country's barristers takes your case (and your money) and runs with this all the way to the Supreme Court!!

Larry, Larry, Larry!!! You go BOYEEEEEE!!

And when you win, you'll be free to force yourself on any woman you choose!!

Atta boy....I'm right behind ya'....all the way!!

[ck1942]

Actually, the word "publish" is perhaps the basic question.

Those who follow the Federal court decisions will note that the Communications Decency Act (Section 230) may likely rule in the OPs instance, assuming that the "publication" is on-line, vs. in a newspaper.

CDA/230 absolves the website of any responsibility for what users post.

So, to pursue further thoughts expressed in the posts above,

Best of luck in prosecuting a complaint against a somewhat anonymous defendant such as Susie Sucksadick.

Always, I have noted that all ladies in the biz must have two rules:

1) the lady makes the rules, and

2) the lady makes sure the gents know her rules.

An aside, I know of ladies whose NBA policy relaxes after meeting certain gents in the non-threatening, social environment of a community meet & greet.