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04-08-2016, 07:57 PM
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The male EGO is pretty fragile when it comes to intimacy. It's why hobbyists have stated things like "providers are not real". Hey, I'm just pointing this out and it doesn't mean all men have this issue. It is what it is.
I used to be an over Ego stroker, but it just tends to perpetuate false ideas and sort of helps gents stay stuck in the dark ages concerning our roles in this world. I can still stroke an Ego like nobody's biz, and everyone has at least one good quality even if they don't show it to me, but I try hard to limit my stroking to that which deserves being stroked.
And, I agree with Piper Posh's attitude concerning gratitude for that which you guys seem to seek 24/7, yet gripe not only when ya don't get it, but even when ya get it and it's good, or even great. LOL Nothing says DB, like a guy who reviews a lady, brags about his multi-pops and prowess, then gives a NO, because of something stupid, like she had a hair out of place. (Yes, that was a little sarcastic, but DBs don't always keep it real either. LOL)
A gentleman earlier referred to reviewing restaurants. No one wishes to make an effort to wait on the table of a guest in a restaurant that has been known to be an a**hat to other staff, even if they tipped well. They dread it and will even try to bribe another staff member to take their table. Believe it or not, that and similar things occur. Restaurants may not review their patrons, but they still have their own way of dealing with folks who are unpleasant. This includes telling all the other staff members just exactly why that guest was an a**hat. ijs
As far as reviewing gents, I believe, just as I believe for reviews of ladies. Intimate details between two parties are just that. Between the two parties. It's fine to give accurate details, and services one can expect, and then have a "limited" comment section for issues or extra details either party may have found undesirable or above and beyond the expected or acceptable. All the other stuff is just fluff and subjective to individual perception and memory. And, while I am grateful to have a place to put my ads, a tiny more equality would be nice. Men have the ISO to place an ad, but ladies do not have a way to say, "Offer some mouth wash or a shower, otherwise the gent was awesome!" I practically swear the ladies to secrecy and send over documents of do not disclose, because I don't want to hurt a gent's feelings or even become the target of unwarranted attacks, because I was trying to help another lady out and don't want them pissed at me either, because I didn't tell them enough to make what they felt was an informed decision. Safety is the most important issue when deciding to see a gent, but it is by far not the only thing we might use to decide for ourselves who we wish to see and who we don't.
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Yup - stroking easily bruised pubescent egos just helps to further serve the over-the-top old school notions about women that some men seem to have. It's all socialized onto us, our rigid sexual role expectations. And having to walk on eggshells so as not to "rock the boat" here must really suck. It may be the nature of the beast, but some places seem to make it more mandatory than others. This site really seems to embrace it.
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04-09-2016, 08:26 AM
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Are you talking like a blacklist or something like it?
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04-09-2016, 08:45 AM
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Are you talking like a blacklist or something like it?
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No, the ladies who hobby want to be able to review, just as the men do. Would be nice if the providers had a similar system, with maybe a checklist of what we find most important and a limited comments, or heads up section. Not where others can comment, but so the providers can make a quicker and better informed decision, just as the gents are able to and even if they don't always do their home work.
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04-09-2016, 10:16 AM
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04-09-2016, 10:17 AM
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If you take pride in your body then why would you want to sell it, why not be like millions of other women and get a job. I am not being a smart ass, but most people that sell their body just don't want to physically work, they just want the quick buck!
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Pretty sure nobody here is selling her body. I mean, I met with a client a few days ago, and OH LOOK!! My body is still right here! Wow!! I get to be intimate with people, and they don't own me afterwards??!? How about that!
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04-09-2016, 10:34 AM
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Hell, look at the recent conversation in the main forum where guys got uncomfortable with a lady reviewing other ladies! If they can find excuses to gag female hobbyists you know full well they will hide behind "tradition" and make Augusta Country Club look like feminists.
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While I have no desire to write reviews of clients (I have enough to do already--I don't need any more homework), I agree with you 100% on this. I've been treated to sessions with other providers, and I think it would be nice to have the option to review them. And I've seen cases of female hobbyists who wanted to review (female) providers--for sessions they had paid full price for, just like any male client. But that's somehow threatening to guys...
How hard would it be to add another subforum where, just for fun, providers can write reviews of clients who want them? Not only would this be fun for everyone involved (I'm betting that the only guys who would opt-in would be guys who know damn well how to treat a lady, and are pretty confident in their ability to keep their internet browser history and passwords secure), but like someone already suggested, it might aid in screening, especially with regard to compatibility.
Plus, many of the ladies here are excellent writers--it could make for some super-hot reading...
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04-09-2016, 10:35 AM
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I agree with Annie. My body is a great tool that is used to provide a sensual experience, and I just happen to be, inhabiting it. LOL. And I don't agree with women not wanting to work as being the most prevalent reason a female provides.
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04-09-2016, 12:11 PM
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Pretty sure nobody here is selling her body. I mean, I met with a client a few days ago, and OH LOOK!! My body is still right here! Wow!! I get to be intimate with people, and they don't own me afterwards??!? How about that!
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That is an awesome post.
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04-09-2016, 06:27 PM
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argh I keep doing duplicate posts...
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04-09-2016, 06:29 PM
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That is an awesome post.
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Thank you!!
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04-09-2016, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Annie Calhoun
I've been treated to sessions with other providers, and I think it would be nice to have the option to review them. And I've seen cases of female hobbyists who wanted to review (female) providers--for sessions they had paid full price for, just like any male client. But that's somehow threatening to guys...
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Absolutely.
It must seem very threatening to those who are ill-equipped to deal with or rationalize anything outside of their little traditional world. Good heavens - lady hobbyists wanting to review providers? What will they want next? TO VOTE?????
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04-10-2016, 07:58 AM
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It is a good idea that comes up often.
The male ego will never allow it.
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Good idea that comes up often.All levels escorts paid services .Clients should review paid services.
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04-10-2016, 09:02 AM
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I have decided to see this in another light. We actually have all the tools we need available to us right here on the site and we just have to learn to utilize them differently than the organized method the gents get and without the privileges. They keep telling us to post our reviews in CO-ED. So, I suppose we should thank them and do just that. Compromise would have been great, but I understand why it might not be available. No harm and no foul. It's all good.
Every lady should post a review in the appropriate Co-Ed section for each gent she sees from ECCIE or any other source. I know we don't really want to give every itty bitty detail of ALL gents physiques, nor do we wish to expose the real details of play by play of the BCD and then post those out in CO-ED for the WHOLE WIDE WORLD to see should they choose to view them, but since we all state SAFETY FIRST, then I suppose this is what we should do. It's a shame that some ladies are not as nice as others and this may become what seems like a brutal attack, but "it's not personal" and maybe gents should take their own advice and "grow thick skin" (eeewwww) LOL. However, the ladies need to have a system readily available for safety sake, whether gents change handles or not. Ladies seem to do this too and we will adjust and call them out, just like you guys do, so no big.
Simply place the link to each review you post in the CoEd sections, in your own showcases, so it is readily available for any perspective lady the gent may contact and should he use you as a ref. It would be nice if some other form was avail to us, but it's not and we shouldn't ask or gripe, we should be thankful and adjust to what actually is available and we've been given the blessing to utilize as instructed. It's a little more work for us, but you ladies are worth it and I want you to be SAFE. I want you to have what you need in order to make an informed decision concerning making any appointment with any gent. I want you not to have to wait for another lady to respond and possibly miss an appointment because she was busy. I don't want the gents to play you in order to get a discount with those who would undercut you for whatever reason they have. I want the gents to be able to get in to see you as quickly as they possibly can, when time allows him last minute play time. I want to see happier campers on both sides of the fence.
In order to not overwhelm COED sections, maybe refrain from writing reviews of gents who already have several with the same kind of details, unless something has changed or because you just enjoy writing erotic stories or something...it's all good. Think of it as another way to advertise for yourself, and know that you are doing your part to keep the community a safer place for ladies and the gents, just as we always have.
As for female hobbyists, I don't know what to suggest. It would be great for you, but it is what it is and maybe someday life will be fair. There will always be those trying to ensure it is not in fact, fair. We just have to adjust in creative ways in order to be able to do what we gotta do. Haven't women always done this and succeeded? No need to let this practice stop here.
I sincerely apologize to the staff and wish to thank them for their keen insights and suggestions, even if it might be embarrassing for your male members (<~~Ha, a punny). I'm certain they will get used to it and adjust in time. I'm a dummy. I admit it. Lesson learned. Thanks again.
Maybe we should go back and get busy playing catch up by posting reviews of those we have seen in the past already. How long has this site been active? LOL Nah Maybe a year or two? What does everyone else think?
Gentlemen, now is a good time to maybe ask a gentler provider who isn't quite as brutal or judgmental as some might be, to get a review posted for you out in your own COED forums. I'm excited to see what kinda game some of you naughty boys really do have. Have fun with it everyone....that's what play time with boys and girls is all about anyway....fun. No harm no foul, right?
Ladies, please share this info with all your gal pals, because this is in a forum that is not quite as popular as others and we want all the ladies involved in order to get caught up and make things safe and easier for all concerned. Have fun and play safe everyone, cause if ya don't, we'll know it.
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04-10-2016, 04:15 PM
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Every lady should post a review in the appropriate Co-Ed section for each gent she sees from ECCIE or any other source. I know we don't really want to give every itty bitty detail of ALL gents physiques, nor do we wish to expose the real details of play by play of the BCD and then post those out in CO-ED for the WHOLE WIDE WORLD to see should they choose to view them, but since we all state SAFETY FIRST, then I suppose this is what we should do.
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I don't have a problem with that. Could be interesting. Though I don't think most providers would want to bother doing it. If a provider reviews a guy it basically acts as verification for him which could be good for the guy.
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04-10-2016, 05:34 PM
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I don't have a problem with that. Could be interesting. Though I don't think most providers would want to bother doing it. If a provider reviews a guy it basically acts as verification for him which could be good for the guy.
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Some wouldn't want us to, simply because it might change the dynamics of the board. Not all gents are so nice, and some use reviews to intimidate the ladies into doing things they do not provide. They will literally beat a lady to the punch by giving a bad review before she has time to post anything anywhere about the bad date. If we have no other option and are kinda forced to go to COED with our reviews, it ain't gonna pretty.
We don't wish to share, as the gents do, the physical attributes and the great techniques, or not, of the gents. Nor do we have the desire to tattle tale and tell of bad behaviors and we haven't the time to brag about how good our judgment is when it comes to choosing clients who contact us. However, some guys need to know not to try and bully a lady once he manages to get an appointment or even out on the board. Lighten up on the name calling and in general a** hattery. They apparently think this is fine since they are not also subjected to nasty remarks that are unwarranted, and many have no compassion and think this is OKay behavior. It's not, IMO. So, if they want to insist, then what the hey...we might as well join in, so they can experience a little critique for themselves.
There are tons of other reasons it would be nice to offer the ladies a clipped review version of what the gents use, but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen, so our best bet is looking like, posting full blown details much like the gents, only in COED sections. Verification and quick client reference check availability, would be of help to both the client and the provider, except the gents who do things they know they shouldn't, then go out and choose another lady and do these inappropriate things, all over again.
Not allowing for the gents to see if/when/or even how many ladies are being subjected to certain things, might cause an ease in everybody's issues. NCNS, haggling, threats, etc... If all gents could actually see some of the stuff we actually don't complain often enough about, it might answer a lot of your questions and hopefully slow down some of the women bashing, at least a little bit. Lighten up on us and we'll lighten up on you, kind of thing. I don't know another solution, but it would be nice if something were to give. ijs This is the option we have been given again and again, so we might as well utilize it. Anyone else know of a mutually beneficial solution for everyone?
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