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04-07-2016, 04:41 PM
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Gee whiz, eatfibo... you act like you know what you're talking about... Last week you said it was an "actual fact" that Trump supporters are stupid white trailer park trash. Now you've been humbled enough to tell us global warming is just a "theory"? Good... maybe you're making progress.
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Can you show me the post where I said anything of the sort? Because that doesn't sound, at all, like what I actually said.
And, yes, AGW is "just a theory." Just like gravity is "just a theory." Just like evolution is "just a theory." Saying that something is "just a theory" in science is the equivalent of saying someone "won just a gold medal" at the Olympics. While it is completely accurate statement, it suggests that you don't understand that a gold is the highest medal you can get. . .just like a theory is the highest anything gets in science.
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So how strong is the correlation between carbon emissions and global temperature increases? Above 0.65? More than 0.80? And how do the scientific models account for other variables that are at play here? And how does the strength of the correlation change depending on the data period under consideration?
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Here is a link that will provide you with numerous peer-reviewed papers that support (and some that attempt to refute) numerous aspects of the overall theory. Based on your question, you would probably be most interested in the list of papers under the heading "There's no correlation between CO2 and temperature."
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04-07-2016, 11:18 PM
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04-07-2016, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Last week you said it was an "actual fact" that Trump supporters are stupid white trailer park trash.
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Can you show me the post where I said anything of the sort? Because that doesn't sound, at all, like what I actually said.
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Really? You can't even remember what you posted last week? Sounds like you need a checkup, fido. You may have early onset Alzheimers.
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What type of person supports Trump? ... Trump supporters are:
- White with no high school diploma
- Either stupid enough to think "American" is an ancestry. Or aren't smart enough to realize that the point of the question is not to demonstrate how proud you are of the fact that you aren't a first or second generation immigrant.
- Living in a mobile home...
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You can get the predictable opinions of a bunch of biased people, or you can get the actual facts...
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I come in and actually post facts...
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04-07-2016, 11:48 PM
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Deflection, for a change, Junior.
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04-08-2016, 12:06 AM
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Saying that something is "just a theory" in science is the equivalent of saying someone "won just a gold medal" at the Olympics. While it is completely accurate statement, it suggests that you don't understand that a gold is the highest medal you can get... just like a theory is the highest anything gets in science.
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You're a babbling idiot. Any fool can posit a theory. Not all theories are equally plausible or supported by empirical data. If I roll out the theory that vaccines increase the risk of autism in newborns, do I get a gold medal? If you want to argue that global warming is a theory we should take seriously, go right ahead. But don't pretend you understand better than I do how science evaluates these things. In fact, you just proved you don't have a fucking clue, since you said one scientific theory is as good as another.
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Here is a link that will provide you with numerous peer-reviewed papers that support (and some that attempt to refute) numerous aspects of the overall theory. Based on your question, you would probably be most interested in the list of papers under the heading "There's no correlation between CO2 and temperature."
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Just as I suspected... you can't answer a few basic questions so you post a link to hundreds of "peer-reviewed papers". I'm an agnostic. How is that supposed to persuade me? If you can't explain it yourself, how do you know it's valid? Because Al Gore tells you the "science is settled"? Aren't you at all curious to evaluate the data for yourself? Or is that beyond your capabilities?
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04-08-2016, 12:17 AM
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Pity you're such a bubble boy Junior.
They're gonna shutter your coal mine. Get used to it.
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04-08-2016, 12:25 AM
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Then, please, explain it to me. What did I get wrong?
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Read my post, try to understand. Consider it a basic lesson in comprehension. Or keep babbling like an idiot. The choice is yours. But you have completely missed the point. No, I'm not going to tell you, it's too funny to watch you try to sound smart. Which you're not. But when you figure it out, it will be obvious. If you figure it out.
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04-08-2016, 12:47 AM
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Pity you're such a bubble boy Junior.
They're gonna shutter your coal mine. Get used to it.
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Don't fret oinkboy, we're already turning our coal mines into world-class golf courses...
Worry about yourself, dipshit... what will YOU do when the EPA slams a buttplug up your porkhole to keep your stinky methane farts from depleting the ozone layer every time the Bulgarian Cocksucker packs your fudge?
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04-08-2016, 07:22 AM
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Don't fret oinkboy, we're already turning our coal mines into world-class golf courses...
Worry about yourself, dipshit... what will YOU do when the EPA slams a buttplug up your porkhole to keep your stinky methane farts from depleting the ozone layer every time the Bulgarian Cocksucker packs your fudge?
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I believe that's #7 at Pete Dye in Clarksgurg W.Va. Oh wait a minute, they flipped the 9s around. I guess it's #16 now. Yeah, the owner owned coal mines.
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04-08-2016, 08:28 AM
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You'd know all about coal mines, you thread hijacking tub of lard.
Do you have something to contribute to this topic or are you just here to hurl insults, ethnic slurs and juvenile taunts?
To your credit, you seem to be sticking to your message, which is more than can be said for your Lard and Savior, Donald Drumpf.
And oh yeah, didn't you say something about working at a golf course as an ass-instant greens keeper one summer?
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04-08-2016, 09:27 AM
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You'd know all about coal mines, you thread hijacking tub of lard.
Do you have something to contribute to this topic or are you just here to hurl insults, ethnic slurs and juvenile taunts?
To your credit, you seem to be sticking to your message, which is more than can be said for your Lard and Savior, Donald Drumpf.
And oh yeah, didn't you say something about working at a golf course as an ass-instant greens keeper one summer?
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Hijack? No, but you're a jackoff. Again, you make shit up. I belong to a club, not work at one. And sadly, I'm up to a 9 handicap now. But you couldn't excel on a put put course. And yes, that pic is of a par 3 at Pete Dye. You can drive your cart through a coal shaft you fucking stupid pig. But I've played many of the top courses in the world. Oakmont, Laurel Valley, Winged Foot, Bay Hill, Pebble Beach, Muirefield and many more. Those places wouldn't let a pig like you waddle in the backdoor, let alone tee it up there. But then again, you can barely walk. Now, you've hijacked you own thread because you're obsessed with me. You can't help yourself. You're spinning out of control.
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04-08-2016, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Really? You can't even remember what you posted last week? Sounds like you need a checkup, fido. You may have early onset Alzheimers.
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You are ignoring context. This was in a thread titled "What type of guy supports Hillary" with a statement made in the first post "I see a pattern, they're all dumbfucks." And give a link showing the actual patterns of the counties that support Trump. Of course, I offer up facts that support the pattern, and you attack me for it. But when bambino says all Clinton supporters dumbfucks (if, of course, you twist his statement in the same way), you're hypocritically mum. No surprise.
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You're a babbling idiot. Any fool can posit a theory.
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No, you're wrong. This is not a crime detective show. We are talking about science. You don't posit a theory, but a hypothesis. Once there has been a lot of testing and confirmation of the hypothesis, only then does it become a theory.
Seriously, this is basic science here. It is pretty much the next thing you learn after the scientific method. I'm sure I learned this no later than 9th grade, but I am relatively sure that it was in 7th or 8th grade. I can't believe that I am having a debate about the science of something with people who don't even have a primary school level understanding of what a "scientific theory" is. By definition, it has to be falsifiable, which, by definition, stops science from ever declaring facts.
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Not all theories are equally plausible or supported by empirical data. If I roll out the theory that vaccines increase the risk of autism in newborns, do I get a gold medal?
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No, because that wouldn't be a "theory," but a "hypothesis." Your hypothesis is the equivalent of a kid saying he wants to be in the Olympics one day. You've got a far way to go before you even sniff a medal.
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If you want to argue that global warming is a theory we should take seriously, go right ahead.
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Just like gravity is a theory we should take seriously.
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But don't pretend you understand better than I do how science evaluates these things.
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I don't have to pretend. The reality is that if you don't understand the difference between a theory and a hypothesis, when it comes to science, then it is clear that I understand this far better than you.
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In fact, you just proved you don't have a fucking clue, since you said one scientific theory is as good as another.
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I never said that. In fact, I alluded to the opposite when I said "Considering how overwhelming the agreement among experts is about AGW, the reality is that it is probably far more "established science" than how to deal with premature babies."
Of course some theories are stronger than others.
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If you can't explain it yourself, how do you know it's valid?
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I can explain it myself. But why would you believe my explanation over the explanation and evidence provided in numerous peer-reviewed papers written by experts? That makes no sense. On top of that, you've already thrown out the "framing fallacy" by attempting to make the debate solely about correlation between CO2 and temperature. Basically, you want me to answer a leading question that has little to do with the overall debate. The question is "why is the theory for AGW so strong" and you tried to get me to answer something different.
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Aren't you at all curious to evaluate the data for yourself? Or is that beyond your capabilities?
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I have, thank you. However, I am smart enough to realize that I am not an expert on the issue and will defer to the experts in the field. Just like I don't examine the designs of every plane I get into before deciding whether or not they are worthy of flight, I trust the experts who have designed, tested and evaluated the designs that they are safe.
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04-08-2016, 11:58 AM
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Do you have something to contribute to this topic or are you just here to hurl insults, ethnic slurs and juvenile taunts?
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Excellent question, oinkboy. Of course you've heard it many times before. People have been asking YOU that very question for 28,258 posts. You're an embarrassment to eccie, the Diaspora and every intelligent discussion ever attempted. And a disgrace to pigs everywhere.
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04-08-2016, 12:12 PM
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...that pic is of a par 3 at Pete Dye. You can drive your cart through a coal shaft you fucking stupid pig.
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I don't think the pig gets it. Oinkboy is only interested in letting the Bulgarian Cocksucker drive his 8-inch shaft through his backdoor.
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04-08-2016, 12:28 PM
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Poor EDdie the Limpdick Lardass.
Needs a WK on the cumback! Unfortunately all he could get was IBJunior, who's STILL struggling for relevance.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
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