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Old 11-10-2015, 10:58 AM   #1
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Default Federal Appeals Court Rules Against Obama's Immigration Plan

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/imm...n-plan-n460331

This means in all likely hood that this is headed for the SCOTUS.

It's difficult to say what they will do. But it all might be a moot point, since a future President Trump will simply nullify President Obama's Executive Order.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:58 AM   #2
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What? The King's Shit Stinks?
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Old 11-10-2015, 02:23 PM   #3
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Sooner or later a court had to determine that there is no emperor.
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Old 11-10-2015, 02:27 PM   #4
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President Obama likes to say, "I am not a king".

Then here is a suggestion. Stop acting like one.
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I would say the Fifth Circuit knows something or other about "immigration." And "Kings"!
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President Obama likes to say, "I am not a king".

Then here is a suggestion. Stop acting like one.
Up to this point, both Reagan and Bush 1 AND 2 have acted more like 'kings' than Obama, going by the numbers. The problem is you don't care how many executive orders are issued as long as you agree with the order and the president is of your party. The shoe always sucks when it's on the other foot...

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/e...-in-one-chart/
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I do not like UNLAWFUL executive orders regardless of the origin.
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I do not like UNLAWFUL executive orders regardless of the origin.
It's not a question of whether it's lawful or not. It's a question of constitutionality.

"Constitution grants exclusive power over immigration law to the federal government"


One could argue that the president is within his power to do so.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:10 PM   #9
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It's not a question of whether it's lawful or not. It's a question of constitutionality.

"Constitution grants exclusive power over immigration law to the federal government"


One could argue that the president is within his power to do so.
The courts have ruled that the president doesn't have the power to contravene standing immigration laws, you 2015 DOTY and "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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The courts have ruled that the president doesn't have the power to contravene standing immigration laws, you 2015 DOTY and "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
We'll see about that. The lower courts ruled that. SCOTUS is the only one that matters.
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This ruling will hurt the GOP presidential hopeful in 2016 imho.


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Up to this point, both Reagan and Bush 1 AND 2 have acted more like 'kings' than Obama, going by the numbers. The problem is you don't care how many executive orders are issued as long as you agree with the order and the president is of your party. The shoe always sucks when it's on the other foot...

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/e...-in-one-chart/

so your argument here is that since Obama signed less overall EO's than Reagan and Bush 1 and 2 he's less imperial? hmm. interesting point of view. but not surprising from someone who has his head up his ass.

it's not how many EO's you fool it's what those EO's mean and attempt to do.

and who by the way signed by far the most EO's?

why .. FDR of course that effete socialist big government snob that he was.

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Old 11-10-2015, 07:13 PM   #13
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You can look up those executive orders. You'll find that Bush and some others made a lot of EOs about pardoning turkeys, calling attention to some special person, or something else that was benign. Obama doesn't do that. Remember, he is changing the fabric of the nation or that was he promise.
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We'll see about that. The lower courts ruled that. SCOTUS is the only one that matters.
In similar cases, the SC has ruled that the president doesn't have the power to contravene standing laws, you 2015 DOTY and "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.



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Up to this point, both Reagan and Bush 1 AND 2 have acted more like 'kings' than Obama, going by the numbers. The problem is you don't care how many executive orders are issued as long as you agree with the order and the president is of your party. The shoe always sucks when it's on the other foot...

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/e...-in-one-chart/
Wrong again, you 2015 DOTY and "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas:

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Odumbo issues 'executive orders by another name'
December 17, 2014

WASHINGTON — President Odumbo has issued a form of executive action known as the presidential memorandum more often than any other president in history — using it to take unilateral action even as he has signed fewer executive orders.

When these two forms of directives are taken together, Odumo is on track to take more high-level executive actions than any president since Harry Truman.

(USA Today)
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Truth hurts. Facts is facts.

Did dubya pardon you, JDrunk? Turkey!
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