Upselling And The New Business Model

[Chung Tran]

I just want a fixed price for a fixed time, and a session to my liking.. this other stuff makes my head hurt. I don't want to hear upcharging, nor do I want to pull out my grocery rewards card..

[Laura Lynn]

Originally Posted by NorthDallas30

Upselling by indies sounds more like a Backpage thing. (And I've never seen a Backpage girl.) I guess if the lady is here on eccie, I would ASSUME she's more buttoned up and profession. But it sounds like there are some downers out there.

What I do like—and some ladies may not want to take time to type all this in their ad—are the options available for sessions. For example, maybe there's a higher level one (with FS and bells and whistles) and a lower level one offered (rub and L2). Just because I like different things at different times.

I agree. Sounds like a bp thing or something the younger new girls might try.

There is no need to negotiate. I think upselling is tasteless and lacks class, just like haggling.

I offer body rubs in addition to gfe sessions. I guess if a guy arranged a massage, but then decided he wanted the full menu, that might be considered upselling? Honestly, I'd probably decline the change because that would make me feel awkward and cheapen the experience.

[APerfectCircle]

I won't do haggling or negotiating, it makes me feel uncomfortable. I have upgraded to a greek session in the middle of a session a couple of times and agreed to the upcharge when there was one, and I don't find that annoying if there are a couple of menu items that are an upcharge, but those should be listed up front and frankly, MSOG should not be one of them.

I like to go into a session, know what the boundaries are, and have a good time without having to worry about the logistical stuff.

[doug_dfw]

I feel this Nation is undergoing a downhill slide. In all aspects except Wall Street, Drug peddlers, politicians, who control the Fed.

I am still old school. I see an ad. I see a price. I look if there are specials. I am Scots. But no fleas!. No. Not prepared to go forward. Click. Pass. Onto the next.

If dickering is becoming the norm in this industry, I am out. Lowering the price within an economic environment means safety is down the drain. Go south; its cheapest but come home with clap; if you are lucky.

[Iam45]

Cheap ass punks. That is all I have to say to those who want to haggle or change the terms midstream.

[Iam45]

Originally Posted by groovyguy

I guess I'm old but from the hobbyist side of the deal, I find negotiating on-site to be a total mood killer. In a negotiation, someone loses–at least a little bit–and that to me is not a great way to start a session. Worse yet, negotiating MID-SESSION. Ugh.

Nothing to do with old and new. I know 80 year olds who will haggle the shit before, during and even at payment time. It is just in the "genes".

[milfy2002]

Mid session negotiating?

Oh hell no.

This is certainly not normal to me, gives me the hebejeebies!

Set the donation down on the counter and forget about it, I'm all inclusive.

If you realize mid session that you didn't book enough time, you may try something classy like asking me if I've got plans directly after the session and if my answer is no then silently add to the donation, but please don't start talking about it or asking me what you can get for more!

[DarkeyKong]

Let me get an understanding of this, because I have been guilty of doing this in the past myself. I get into a good hhr session and I am really enjoying myself. I ask the provider if she has the time and ability to upgrade to an hour session and offer her the hour rate. If she accepts we go forward. Is it impolite to ask for a session upgrade? Or are you referring to those who try to negotiate discounts?

[milfy2002]

Originally Posted by DarkeyKong

Let me get an understanding of this, because I have been guilty of doing this in the past myself. I get into a good hhr session and I am really enjoying myself. I ask the provider if she has the time and ability to upgrade to an hour session and offer her the hour rate. If she accepts we go forward. Is it impolite to ask for a session upgrade? Or are you referring to those who try to negotiate discounts?

No, I believe that scenario should be ok with most if handled delicately...

It's more like when you book a non-fs session and then mid session start offering the lady certain amounts of cash for more acronyms.

For a GFE girl it would be trying to negotiate for Greek, domination, or some other more expensive session type mid session.

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by barryMcCockInner

...Never discussed the up charge, but it's clearly on her ads and I paid her that rate. Other changes have been increasing time from 1 hour to 2, and I've paid the stated rate, usually +tip. ...

exactly!
best case - agreeing to an appt of a specific time [not services ]
and, if things are going well, then asking for and agreeing upon add-ons to an in progress agreed upon appt.

fees for add-ons should be what is stated in her profile, showcase, ads, etc. and, unless you have consulted w/ her quite a bit (and maybe not even then), it's not cool to discuss the fee - you should have it available and just lay it down w/ the original fee.


on the way less deliteful side is agreeing to an appt of a specific time, then having the provider asking for more money for specific activities DURING the session is UPSELLING ["oh, ya wanna kiss my nipples? 25 more." "oh, wanna lick my clit? 50 more." etc.]
and in my book, that is NOT at all stimulating or deliteful to me. :^(

Originally Posted by DarkeyKong

Let me get an understanding of this, because I have been guilty of doing this in the past myself. I get into a good hhr session and I am really enjoying myself. I ask the provider if she has the time and ability to upgrade to an hour session and offer her the hour rate. If she accepts we go forward. Is it impolite to ask for a session upgrade? Or are you referring to those who try to negotiate discounts?

Originally Posted by milfy2002

No, I believe that scenario should be ok with most if handled delicately...
===>pmd: that's my thought as well

It's more like when you book a non-fs session and then mid session start offering the lady certain amounts of cash for more acronyms.

For a GFE girl it would be trying to negotiate for Greek, domination, or some other more expensive session type mid session.

there's asking for add-ons at the stated fee and there's negotiating a fee for add-ons.

changing the kind of consulting session mid-stream is dicey. some will allow it, some wont.
find out before hand, not when the need arises!


very rarely have i asked for add-ons or changed session kind w/ someone i've never consulted w/ before.
and, btw, i rarely do this w/ any provider.
i just book for sufficient time to enjoy all the delites i'm interested in and that i know she is cool w/ providing. [remember, "providers" are selling "services" ]
if i would like more time, i might ask for it.

[BLM69]

You guys and gals are overreacting, If you want to upgrade on time or services just ask, She's either going to say yes or no. The downgrading should be the issue not the upgrade.

[milfy2002]

Originally Posted by biglatinmale

You guys and gals are overreacting, If you want to upgrade on time or services just ask, She's either going to say yes or no. The downgrading should be the issue not the upgrade.

Fluffy, your posts make me want to fuck you silly... ;-)

You are correct, but it's the "after she politely declines and he doesn't take no for an answer part" that spoils the session.

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by milfy2002

Fluffy, your posts make me want to fuck you silly... ;-)

You are correct, but it's the "after she politely declines and he doesn't take no for an answer part" that spoils the session.

My lil guy is always ready for wet pussy, I can assist with my fat tounge to make the wetness happen if needed 😜

If the client doesn't understand NO, that's another issue but asking should not be a problem.

[icansmile]

It does not help when a providers ad looks like the menu from Texas Roadhouse. Guys are kinda simple, and it would help to keep it that way.

[DarkeyKong]

Originally Posted by biglatinmale

If the client doesn't understand NO, that's another issue but asking should not be a problem.

Agreed.