president veto

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WTF

...until the GOP gets serious about cutting Defense spending, so called Budget hawks will never achieve their goal.

Originally Posted by WTF

....Without the balls to rein in the Defense Budget, you will never be able to rein in the federal Deficit.

Hmmm... let's see... we're currently spending 6 out of every 7 federal dollars on NON-DEFENSE items - yet you think the defense budget is driving the deficit?

Riiighttt!!!

Can you read graphs, fagboy? More importantly, can you comprehend them? DoD spending is now down to 3.1% of GDP and 14.3% of total federal outlays. Better look elsewhere for your budget-busting bugaboo.





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[WombRaider]

So is 3.1% the magic number? Who set that number as the one? You?

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

No need to google it. We already noticed the endorsement posted on your gloryhole website by one of your loyal customers:

"Woomby, the failed writer and freelance faggot from Arkansas, needs no chiding before he gobbles down your cock and eagerly swallows every drop!"
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Care to post a link to it? Since you started an entire thread about a gay bar, it shouldn't be difficult.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Yes, the NDAA originally WAS a bipartisan bill. Both sides in Congress plus the executive branch agreed on the amount of defense spending as well as the reform provisions it contained. And yet Odumbo vetoed it anyway! For reasons that have nothing to do with the bill, something no previous president has ever done. The responsibility for ANY Presidential veto resides squarely in the Oval Office. Why can't you get that through your thick blame-shifting partisan skull?

I also blame the nincompoop for not knowing how to budget. If you want more for defense, then you allocate less for non-defense. That's the real world. Instead, Odumbo says I want more for defense - therefore I am entitled to more for non-defense. That's completely upside down. It's the Alice-in-Wonderland world. No wonder the community organizer hasn't passed a single budget since taking office in 2009.
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Perhaps you need to return to Civics 101. The President doesn't pass a budget, dumbass, Congress does. The President submits a budget request, which Congress works off of. Obama has submitted a budget request each year he's been in office.

You also lie when it comes to his allocation for more defense bullshit. Saying you want more for defense and wanting more for non-defense doesn't mean the two things are mutually exclusive. Of course there will be cuts in other areas.

He vetoed it. Get over it. It's his prerogative to do so.

[CuteOldGuy]

The Defense budget is out of control. It is rife with useless weapon systems, unwanted and unneeded hardware, inflated pricing in purchases, waste, corruption and fraud. If they were forced to use common business practices to manage their money, we could have a stronger, more effective defense on one-third to one-half of what we are spending now.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

So is 3.1% the magic number? Who set that number as the one? You?

Try to say something intelligent, sewer rat. Did anyone say something about a "magic number"? Nope. Try to understand the graph, moron.

As a percent of GDP, we are now spending on defense roughly 1/4 of what we did during the Korean War, 1/3 of what we did during Vietnam, and 1/2 of what we spent under the Reagan build-up (which won the Cold War before Odumbo started pissing it away).

The numbers speak for themselves, sewer rat. If you can't say anything intelligent about them, just STFU.
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[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

Perhaps you need to return to Civics 101. The President doesn't pass a budget, dumbass, Congress does. The President submits a budget request, which Congress works off.

Allow me to rephrase:

"No wonder the community organizer in the WH has been so woefully incompetent and unable to get a budget through Congress since taking office in 2009."

Is that better? Until Odumbo arrived, Congress always managed to pass a federal budget.
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[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

Saying you want more for defense and wanting more for non-defense doesn't mean the two things are mutually exclusive.

Yes it does, unless you live in a world of unlimited resources. Here's how you put together a budget in the real world - you start with an estimate of your available revenues, then you propose how they should be spent. If you want to spend more on x, you need to budget less for y. Unless you are a community organizer or a libtard sewer rat who thinks like Alice in Wonderland.
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[lustylad]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

The Defense budget is out of control. It is rife with useless weapon systems, unwanted and unneeded hardware, inflated pricing in purchases, waste, corruption and fraud. If they were forced to use common business practices to manage their money, we could have a stronger, more effective defense on one-third to one-half of what we are spending now.

I might agree with you in part if you drop the hyperbole, COG. We can certainly save money in the defense budget (as we can in every federal spending category), but it's nonsense to suggest we could cut it in half from its already shrunken level without gravely jeopardizing our security. What "common business practices" are you talking about?

Here are the DoD numbers under Obama. Do they look "out of control"? They are in nominal dollars which means spending has declined even more dramatically in real (inflation-adjusted) terms.

FY 2010 - $691 billion
FY 2011 - $687 billion
FY 2012 - $645 billion
FY 2013 - $578 billion
FY 2014 - $581 billion
FY 2015 - $560 billion
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[Yssup Rider]

DooDoo economics...

What does this have to do with Obama's religious beliefs?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by lustylad

I might agree with you in part if you drop the hyperbole, COG. We can certainly save money in the defense budget (as we can in every federal spending category), but it's nonsense to suggest we could cut it in half from its already shrunken level without gravely jeopardizing our security. What "common business practices" are you talking about?

Here are the DoD numbers under Obama. Do they look "out of control"? They are in nominal dollars which means spending has declined even more dramatically in real (inflation-adjusted) terms.

FY 2010 - $691 billion
FY 2011 - $687 billion
FY 2012 - $645 billion
FY 2013 - $578 billion
FY 2014 - $581 billion
FY 2015 - $560 billion
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Your numbers are used to paint a roses picture. How about these numbers?


https://www.warresisters.org/resourc...ey-really-goes

"Current military” includes Dept. of Defense ($586 billion) and the military portion from other departments as noted in current military box above($196 billion). “Past military” represents veterans’ benefits plus 80% of the interest on the debt.*

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

The Defense budget is out of control. It is rife with useless weapon systems, unwanted and unneeded hardware, inflated pricing in purchases, waste, corruption and fraud. If they were forced to use common business practices to manage their money, we could have a stronger, more effective defense on one-third to one-half of what we are spending now.

Agreed

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Yes it does, unless you live in a world of unlimited resources. Here's how you put together a budget in the real world - you start with an estimate of your available revenues, then you propose how they should be spent. If you want to spend more on x, you need to budget less for y. Unless you are a community organizer or a libtard sewer rat who thinks like Alice in Wonderland.
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You make cuts in other areas, idiot.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

I might agree with you in part if you drop the hyperbole, COG. We can certainly save money in the defense budget (as we can in every federal spending category), but it's nonsense to suggest we could cut it in half from its already shrunken level without gravely jeopardizing our security. What "common business practices" are you talking about?

Here are the DoD numbers under Obama. Do they look "out of control"? They are in nominal dollars which means spending has declined even more dramatically in real (inflation-adjusted) terms.

FY 2010 - $691 billion
FY 2011 - $687 billion
FY 2012 - $645 billion
FY 2013 - $578 billion
FY 2014 - $581 billion
FY 2015 - $560 billion
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Common business practices means if they were forced to operate like a an actual business. Like most republitards, you see a reduction in spending and start screaming about national security. Why don't you ever concentrate on efficiency?

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Allow me to rephrase:

"No wonder the community organizer in the WH has been so woefully incompetent and unable to get a budget through Congress since taking office in 2009."

Is that better? Until Odumbo arrived, Congress always managed to pass a federal budget.
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So you fucked up. Better get gay rey.