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Old 10-04-2015, 04:31 PM   #61
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"The California DOJ reported 931,000 guns sold last year— three times the number sold in 2004 and the second highest annual number since the department began keeping sales records in 1991."

This is just more bullshit from Admiral Turd Cutter. Gun sales are alive and well in California.

Could you please tell the greatest gun salesman in history, thanks


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Old 10-04-2015, 07:26 PM   #62
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"The California DOJ reported 931,000 guns sold last year— three times the number sold in 2004 and the second highest annual number since the department began keeping sales records in 1991."

This is just more bullshit from Admiral Turd Cutter. Gun sales are alive and well in California.
Oh! You think this is about gun sales. A kind of stupid take on the issue but pretty much what we expect. Do you know that they minted gold coins in the 1920s and 30s? Right up to the point that the federal government under FDR confiscated them. Imagine a time when it was ILLEGAL to own gold. It was there. So when some moron talks about gun sales and tries to compare it with repeated attempts by the left to ban or otherwise confiscate guns think about that. Not saying that they're going to be successful but they do keep trying to trim around the corners.

Like this latest college shooting incident. Obviously this was about mental illness and not guns. Have we heard anyone on the left talk about that? Not a single person. They only have one arrow in their quiver and it is gun control. Another analogy, the repairman that only has a hammer for a tool. All problems start to look like a nail. We are never going to get a handle on this as long as the left refuses to look beyond their pet project.
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:33 PM   #63
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Oh! You think this is about gun sales. A kind of stupid take on the issue but pretty much what we expect. Do you know that they minted gold coins in the 1920s and 30s? Right up to the point that the federal government under FDR confiscated them. Imagine a time when it was ILLEGAL to own gold. It was there. So when some moron talks about gun sales and tries to compare it with repeated attempts by the left to ban or otherwise confiscate guns think about that. Not saying that they're going to be successful but they do keep trying to trim around the corners.

Like this latest college shooting incident. Obviously this was about mental illness and not guns. Have we heard anyone on the left talk about that? Not a single person. They only have one arrow in their quiver and it is gun control. Another analogy, the repairman that only has a hammer for a tool. All problems start to look like a nail. We are never going to get a handle on this as long as the left refuses to look beyond their pet project.
So let me get this straight... they are eventually going to confiscate guns, but in the meantime, they are hoping more of them get sold? Read that back without fucking spitting out your drink, if you can. What a fucking imagination you have.

As for the Gold Reserve Act, that had as much to with the Depression as it did with anything else. You trying to cast it as some nefarious event doesn't make it so. It was more about getting foreigners to export gold to the US, which eventually lowered interest rates.
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Old 10-05-2015, 01:34 AM   #64
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Once again, gun sales has nothing to do with left's goal of a ban.
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Once again, gun sales has nothing to do with left's goal of a ban.
But your contention was that they were trying to do away with guns in california. The truth is that more guns are being sold in california than have been since they started keeping records. You simply aren't telling the truth OR making any sense. San Francisco isn't California as a whole. Just as Harvey isn't Chicago. You seem to have some strange geographical problem in your brain.
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Obviously this was about mental illness and not guns. Have we heard anyone on the left talk about that? Not a single person. They only have one arrow in their quiver and it is gun control..
I skimmed through the posts in this thread and I couldn't find one post in which someone asked for more gun control. Unlike you, I am not perfect and may have missed it. Please point out a post asking for more gun control.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:28 AM   #67
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Once again, gun sales has nothing to do with left's goal of a ban.
Again, how many times do we have to go through this? Name one significant politician who has proposed a national gun ban?
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:42 AM   #68
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Another brilliant thread by JDrunk, replete with nonsensical assumptions and misrepresentations of what others have posted.

Not only is he a sloppy lush, but also a fucking liar.

Is anybody having fun here, besides of course those who are starved for any kind of attention at all ... And we all know who they are?
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I skimmed through the posts in this thread and I couldn't find one post in which someone asked for more gun control. Unlike you, I am not perfect and may have missed it. Please point out a post asking for more gun control.

I not only linked to Obama's remarks (you've heard of him?) but I copied them. Obama said that we have to consider the same kind of laws that England and Australia have for this country. What England and Australia have is a ban and a confiscation. So that is what Obama is advocating.

Don't make us go through this again where we go and find quotes from Pelosi, Boxer, and othes proving out point. You'll deny the quotes and say that they're out of context but we know otherwise. A gun ban is the ultimate goal of the left. Ask some Olympians who've left California because of bans on their particular weapon.
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Odumbo is a jackass. Every time this shit happens, lib-retards like Odumbo, Hildabeast and the talking heads in the MSM want to stupidly pretend that there hasn't already "been a discussion" and that they never passed any fuckin' gun laws: there are mountains of gun laws already on the books. Get a fuckin' clue!

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I not only linked to Obama's remarks (you've heard of him?) but I copied them. Obama said that we have to consider the same kind of laws that England and Australia have for this country. What England and Australia have is a ban and a confiscation. So that is what Obama is advocating.

A gun ban is the ultimate goal of the left.
Your last statement is total BS. To say that the goal of the left is to ban guns is the same as saying the goal of the right is to do away with all gun control laws. Neither is correct. I am a little left of center and I do not support a gun ban.

You are right on Obama pushing for stronger gun control laws. You are wrong in your statements about England and Australia:

I usually don't quote Wikipedia and I'll be happy to cite different sources if you like.

"A common misconception is that firearms are illegal in Australia and that no individual may possess them. Although it is true that Australia has restrictive firearms laws, rifles and shotguns (both of which include semi-automatics), as well as handguns, are all legal within a narrow set of criteria.


As of 2015 about 815,000 people had a gun licence in Australia and there were around 3.5 to 5.5 million Registered Firearms in Australia.


In England:

Shotgun possession and use is controlled, and even low-power air rifles and pistols, while permitted, are controlled to some extent. A Firearm Certificate issued by the police is required for all weapons and ammunition except air weapons of modest power (of muzzle energy not over 12 ft·lbf (16 J) for rifles, and 6 ft·lbf (8.1 J) for pistols). Shotguns with a capacity of three rounds or less (up to guns with a magazine holding no more than two rounds, in addition to one in the chamber) are subject to less stringent licensing requirements than other firearms and require a shotgun certificate; shotguns with higher capacity require a Firearm Certificate.

And from https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-peopl...he-UK-own-guns

"You cannot own fully automatic firearms, semi-automatic firearms of calibre greater than .22, or handguns. But this still leaves a significant amount of legal weapons. It's actually fairly easy to get a shotgun licence, because you don't have to provide a reason to own one, rather the assumption is that you can unless the police have good reason to prevent it. A firearms licence for a rifle, however, is harder to get because you have to have a good reason to have one. Self or home defence does not count as a good reason."
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I not only linked to Obama's remarks (you've heard of him?) but I copied them. Obama said that we have to consider the same kind of laws that England and Australia have for this country. What England and Australia have is a ban and a confiscation. So that is what Obama is advocating.

Don't make us go through this again where we go and find quotes from Pelosi, Boxer, and othes proving out point. You'll deny the quotes and say that they're out of context but we know otherwise. A gun ban is the ultimate goal of the left. Ask some Olympians who've left California because of bans on their particular weapon.
Australia had a gun buyback program. Not a confiscation. I'd like to actually hear your plan. And don't say more guns.
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Australia had a gun buyback program. Not a confiscation. I'd like to actually hear your plan. And don't say more guns.



It wasn't "voluntary", you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, and when the government mandates that one sell one's guns at its "asking price" -- and not at the market or seller's price, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, it's confiscation.
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It wasn't "voluntary", you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, and when the government mandates that one sell one's guns at its "asking price" -- and not at the market or seller's price, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, it's confiscation.
They only bought back certain types of firearms, dumbass. It was a gun buyback program.
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They only bought back certain types of firearms, dumbass. It was a gun buyback program.
"Certain types" were mandated to be surrendered, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas; it was confiscation.


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