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Old 08-26-2015, 11:30 AM   #1
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Default Common courtesy - Slow - Wichita

Wichita is slow. Always has been. There are many things that flourish here, but making money in the hobby has never been high on the list.

I lived here for a year and realized it was very different from the East Coast. Geographically speaking, I get contacted in Wichita more than other place by folks that never follow through. Why contact a lady if you are never going to see her? I've had appointments set up and been overwhelmed with NCNS's. Even in the last two days, I over compromised to help someone out so they could see me only for me to contact them 20 minutes after we were supposed to meet and was told they were very sorry but they had dinner with friends, had too much to drink and had mixed alcohol with medication. I'm at a total loss here. That is sheer stupidity to me. Why would they drink that much after they contacted me and knew we were supposed to meet???

A little common sense goes a long way. A little respect wouldn't hurt either. You never know someones situation so be kind to them.

Add slow business with unreliable clients that don't follow through......Never a good result.
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Old 08-26-2015, 11:48 AM   #2
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Default Sorry HBG

I take forever to make up my mind to see someone, lots of research before I commit. But once I do, I'm in. I have an opposite but similar problem. I'll see a couple ads and then research who I think I'll have the most fun with, check activities, read posts to check their general attitude about things, then when I call I get no response, or they tell me they aren't working that day or THEY had something come up. Then why do you have an ad or a posting? I don't have as much money or free time as I did before both kids got in college so I really want to try to make sure both of us are going to have a great time and get everything we want in a session. I pass on girls that I couldn't find enough research on and I know better than to try to ask too much on the phone. By the time I've SET a meeting, I've put several hours into getting my facts straight and the last thing I'm going to do is back out on a verified and highly respected provider. I do hope things get better for you!
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Old 08-26-2015, 12:29 PM   #3
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Very thoughtful. Thank you. It is a frustrating problem. You and I agree that once BOTH parties agree on a date/time, there should be no backing out unless there's a genuine emergency or need.
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Old 08-26-2015, 02:16 PM   #4
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About the orgy...????...LOLOL...
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Old 08-26-2015, 02:58 PM   #5
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About the orgy...????...LOLOL...
You've made me smile twice today!
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Old 08-26-2015, 04:20 PM   #6
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I always show...the providers not so much. So much easier to go to a place open for business and ready to please than to go through 2 hours of trying to set up a one hour appointment. Forget that.

As for the guys dropping you... sorry to hear about that and know it happens. Guess your pics get people horny and they set up an appointment but then something else comes along in their day. Tough decision: keep the sexy pictures and get more calls from horny men who may cancel or go to less sexy pictures in hopes of less calls with a higher show up and play percentage. Good luck!
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Old 08-26-2015, 04:32 PM   #7
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If it wasn't for my regulars, I'd be in debt! LOL. I think after you get yourself settled in one place it can be frustrating at first but as you stick around the area, you do build up clientele. I've also found that running specials occasionally helps substantially.

Sucks to hear of your bad experiences (or lack of). And, you're absolutely right--RESPECT & common courtesy and common fucking sense go such a long ways!
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Old 08-26-2015, 05:32 PM   #8
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I understand perfectly Gemma. The year I lived here, offering the Specials almost killed me. I'm only here temporarily, then will be on my way back to the East Coast. Even if Wichita isn't as busy as everywhere else, there's still a feeling of comfort to come back to a place I once called home.
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Old 08-28-2015, 04:42 PM   #9
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I understand perfectly Gemma. The year I lived here, offering the Specials almost killed me. I'm only here temporarily, then will be on my way back to the East Coast. Even if Wichita isn't as busy as everywhere else, there's still a feeling of comfort to come back to a place I once called home.
(no no, don't post... says the inner voice... lol. But, hey it makes it not so slow)

You started the same thread three months ago.... we all talked out then why it was slow. I think a lot of that still applies, it's summer.

To refresh that discussion:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1374640

Some women don't have a problem. There is a wider selection given the populace, and being on I-35 means lots of girls coming up from Dallas/South, can access the metro here, on their way to Kansas City. we get lots of stopovers. As you can see from the reviews, there is a lot of variety of sampling.

As far as NCNSs go, that's a problem in the profession. I don't know if there is anything beyond anecdotes that say it happens more here.

As far as specials, the cost of living in Wichita is one of the lowest for a major city (top 50) in the nation, meaning that our wages are not as high as on the East Coast, so generally people expect lower prices. It's not the same as the Coast, I travel a lot, and that's pretty true in my experience, again no data... but you know...

In general, I don't understand why providers complain it's slow. Is that supposed to drum up business? Like, you know I was really not going to see a provider, but apparently they need money so....now I'll make an appointment.

It's not a motivator.

Seems like not a good marketing technique. Especially since natives who care about such things might think you were trying to say their home as not a good place for providers. *shrug*

I'm sure there are lots of reasons why particular providers have problems getting lots of business, which aren't particular to the specific market, the variables are many: ECCIE access, provider preference, client funds, client schedules, provider schedules, ease of scheduling, general desire for the provider, marketing ability, timing, communication problems, transportation, situational awareness, out/incall, style, age, pricing, menu, perceived personality, experience, location in the town, recommendations, tradeoffs with other activities, discretion, etc. etc. etc. etc....


Who knows if there are providers NOT on ECCIE advertising somewhere else who get more than enough clients in Wichita, and the girls here are just in the wrong place for the wrong effort.

I've also asked why the Wichita section had such a slow traffic slow, compared to the social media experience that was the KC forum. I suspect there are lots of reasons.

Now to bring it back to another, better comment....

Where is the discussion of that orgy?



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By no means am I trying to drum up business. Geeesh, I wasn't being negative. It was just an observation. Enjoy your weekend. No harm intended or taken.
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I've been at this five years now and I can tell you that I will do just about anything for a
classy provider. The GFE thing is hard to find because it means you have to get really intimate with the client and I understand that there are guys who do not respect that by showing up with poor hygiene. Trust me, I'll do what it takes to get a date with a beautiful person like Gemma or HBG but I know it takes time. I apologize to Gemma for hounding her for a date. I appreciate what you classy ladies do for us guys who can't get laid at home.
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