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View Poll Results: Should wealthy Americans be allowed to collect Social Security?
Yes, wealthy Americans should be allowed to collect Social Security 32 76.19%
No, wealthy Americans should not be allowed to collect Social Security 10 23.81%
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Old 08-12-2015, 10:00 PM   #1
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should wealthy Americans be allowed to collect Social Security?
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should wealthy Americans be allowed to collect Social Security?
How do you define wealthy?

Isn't wealth relative?

Wealthy as opposed to who, what, when, where?
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How do you define wealthy?

Isn't wealth relative?

Wealthy as opposed to who, what, when, where?
Isn't wealth relative? to whom? you, me or Bill Gates?

anyone with a net worth in excess of 5 Million dollars. that's calculated correctly of course.

by that standard i'm actually setting the bar low. on purpose. anyone worth a real net worth of 5 million or more should not need Social Security.

they still pay in obviously.
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If they paid into it they should receive it.
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If they paid into it they should receive it.
well now that an idiot has voted, let's get some real voters here. does not surprise me you would say that. but then again you aren't wealthy so go ahead and get your government cheese chimp.

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How do you define wealthy?

Isn't wealth relative?

Wealthy as opposed to who, what, when, where?
Should the millionaire winner of a lottery, be allowed to collect his winnings... "as opposed to who, what, when, where?"?

Are you Relative?




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Should the millionaire winner of a lottery, be allowed to collect his winnings... "as opposed to who, what, when, where?"?

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absolutely. and if they net greater than 5 M after taxes, they lose SS benefits.
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How do you define wealthy?

Isn't wealth relative?

Wealthy as opposed to who, what, when, where?
That would be my question.

I started paying into SS at an early age, I was working after school. I have never went one week of my life without paying in, including the two years I spent in the Army.

For the past 15+ years I have paid in the maximum. Every year the Government raises the cap. Periodically they raise the rate. I have always paid.

I will be 69 next year, so I will probably star drawing mine, even though I have no intention retiring, I will continue to work and pay into the system just as I always have.

My total tax bill last year was well into 6 figures. From what I gather, I am not sure that I would be denied SS, because as BigTex asked, who is considered "rich"?
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well now that an idiot has voted, let's get some real voters here. does not surprise me you would say that. but then again you aren't wealthy so go ahead and get your government cheese chimp.

OMG the fucking idiot has posted his mother's picture again, is there no end to his stupidity? I could buy and sell your welfare ass twice, and not miss the money.
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Pyramid schemes don't work out too good for the early schmucks , like us... Oh Well! Ozombies DESERVE IT... Just ask them...
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That would be my question.

I started paying into SS at an early age, I was working after school. I have never went one week of my life without paying in, including the two years I spent in the Army.

For the past 15+ years I have paid in the maximum. Every year the Government raises the cap. Periodically they raise the rate. I have always paid.

i've been capped out for years myself. i also spent 4 years in the Navy, they took out then too. evey day i work for the next 10 years i'm paying for someone else's social security.

I will be 69 next year, so I will probably star drawing mine, even though I have no intention retiring, I will continue to work and pay into the system just as I always have.

and even if you did, it would limit what you get from Social Security. i'm sure you know that.


My total tax bill last year was well into 6 figures. From what I gather, I am not sure that I would be denied SS, because as BigTex asked, who is considered "rich"?
Jackie, if you had a TAX bill is well into 6 figures, you would have to be earning several million a year. at the least. you don't a "lousy" 2,500 a month to get by.
that's about the max cap anyone regardless of income can get. Even Bill Gates won't get anymore than i will.

right now, 10 years before i could draw at 62 the earliest which would be stupid of course, i'd have to live to 135 to get back what i've already paid in.
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Are you Relative?
Yes, I am "relative".

Are you a fuk'n Idiot?

If you had to ask the "relative" question, it is obvious that COG's "Sweet Ass" IIFFY is a fuk'n looney tunes.

As for the answer to "are you a fuk'n Idiot" question!

Not yes but HELL YES!
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i have never said i liked the concept of social security. i'd be far better off giving the 150,000 i've already paid in to my stock broker. i fully expect to retire a millionaire. i'm on track for it. if i work to 68, just after my ideal of 67 i expect to have 1.5 million to live on. and that does not include 1 dime from Social Security.

if you add employer's contributions it's probably closer to 325K put in, in total.
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That would be socialism waKKKo. Doesn't that make you piss your pants?
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That would be socialism waKKKo. Doesn't that make you piss your pants?

you damn right it does. as i said i'd be far better off giving that money to my broker. he could do way more with it that the GOV. your FAVORITE entity.

today, it's part of many american's retirement. it's FDR's fault, that effete socialist Big GOV asshole. one of worst presidents EVER. and the BEST, only because he knew he was not a General or an Admiral so he mostly let the people who were trained to win a war win it, unlike Hitler, who thought being a lousy corporal in WWI somehow qualified him to be a supreme Field Marshall.

maybe this poll "should have been" do away with social security.
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