Time to speak my mind.

[Kshunter]

Originally Posted by Kay2Day

Kshunter awwww how nice of you to come to kaylen defense...

White knights are ADORABLE . Like cute little lap dogs you just want to cuddle with ... Good for you sir most guys would be offended at the notion of being a HOOKTARD'S lap dog but thats so awesome you are so comfortable with it

Too bad i have a pm from her dated just a few days ago WHY SHE DIDN'T PROVIDE references to me... and text msgs from a gent saying she provided references just NOT TO ME..

Call me what you want, Kay.Lap dog? Hardly, and I suppose that if you were intelligent enough to do a bit of research, look at my past reviews and so forth, you'd probably figure that out. I am a loyal friend, which I've always thought was an admirable characteristic. " Hooktard" indeed. I truly don't give a shit.....but let's see.....are you saying that you'd like the entirety of that PM chain made public?

Interesting....I've been in various businesses for 25 years, and I've noticed that nobody ever bitches about those who are LESS successful than they are.

[Guest110923]

Awww dont get your panties in a twist... i for one think WhiteKnights are ADORABLE. I REALLY MEAN THAT.... REALLY
See thats u and your little pony n big old sword looking all cute and adorable. How can a girl be mad at that ---->

I would have no issue with that pm chain being made public whatsoever... bc it would PROVE EVERYTHING I stated as a FACT. If it wasnt against the rules of the board to post private messages... it would've already been posted BELIEVE THAT.

But if you really want to involve yourself in Hooktard drama ... feel free to email me directly and ill show you myself
And apparently U DO give a shit or you wouldn't have chosen to involve yourself to fight someone else battles.... but hey thats okay.... i personally dont need anyone to defend me bc what Im saying is actually true and the truth itself will ALWAYS stand on its OWN TWO FEET. NO WHITE KNIGHTING NEEDED

[Wizard of Ahhhhs]

Ha! Nice post, Kay!

Originally Posted by Kay2Day

Kshunter awwww how nice of you to come to kaylen defense... White knights are ADORABLE . Like cute little lap dogs...

Originally Posted by Kshunter

I am a loyal friend...

Sorry, Kshunter, but with this girl in question, it's pretty apparent that it's about the same thing. Sorry, dude.

NOTE: A scolding "you don't even know me! smdh" PM coming in 5... 4... 3...

[Guest110923]

Originally Posted by Wizard of Ahhhhs

Ha! Nice post, Kay! Sorry, Kshunter, but with this girl in question, it's pretty apparent that it's about the same thing. Sorry, dude.

NOTE: A scolding "you don't even know me! smdh" PM coming in 5... 4... 3...

Yeah and check out his join date kshunter

LOL Couldnt resist the set up was way too easy LMAO
Have a wonderful week Everyone

[bigryan2222]

Originally Posted by Kshunter

I know for a fact that at least one provider in this thread is lying and it ain't Kaylen.

I can only judge Kaylen on my own interactions with her. She's provided references to other providers for me before and she's been nothing but good to me. Oh, and Bigryan, wanna compare join dates with ME?

sure I can compare join dates with you. You got me by a few weeks on this site. I don't remember what my join date was on aspd and I waited to join this site due to the issues that ended it.

If you want a couple clues to how it can be so check my first post on this board and look up the user name I referenced. I guess it looks like your ideas about my history are as accurate as your ideas of Kaylens history.

[Savannah Moon]

Perhaps, because Kimmy, myself and others who have been around for SEVERAL yrs have NEVER had issues AT ALL with her...PERHAPS it is possible that she has feelings & when she is treated like shit, that's what she passes back... who knows. What I do know is that when there is an issue coming from a certain group / clique then the whole slew of you tend to gang bang that person like your s*** doesn't stink... f****** pathetic

[Guest090620-1]

Maybe six months ago Kaylen asked me for a reference, thru text message. I told her that yes I'd seen him and he was alright just a little goofy and weird... and that's when shit hit the fan! She started texting me like crazy saying that I thought her safety was a joke and she was going to get on ECCIE and talk bad about me ... I'm like hold on wait a minute.. I gave you what you asked for!! You said was he cool and I gave you an HONEST ANSWER!! I tried to explain that he was just socially akward , not a bad guy just a little weird.. now if I'd told her oh yeah he's great and she met him and he acted like a total weirdo then she would've been mad and said I gave a bad reference!!! Since then I've heard from SEVERAL different clients that she tells them not to see me, that I have a "Pimp" that I'm not trustworthy, she has told people I work with the police, she likes to refer to me and Lariyah as "Kansas City`s most Pimped Bitches".(( I'm not dumb enough to give MY hard earned money to ANYONE let alone Low life leach "Pimp" and I would NEVER help a fucking pig)) I've never met Kaylen before she has no idea who I am but because she asked for a reference and didn't like my HONEST OPINION of the client in question, she's decided to try to ruin my name. I've heard from SEVERAL clients that she offers "freebies" for trade, never follows thru...lies and harasses clients for money. I can't say I KNOW that's the truth because I'm obviously not a client but I DO know how she's treated me since I came on the scene. Maybe a week ago some random guy calls me and asks me " So how do you post on backpage now?" I'm like huh? Who are you? He says he's Kaylens fiance and she asked him to call me and ask for advice..... it's one thing for a fellow provider to ask another for advice but it's another thing to have some guy call me FOR YOU but you supposedly dislike me Sooo much?? I told him if she wanted to speak to me, she needed to call me herself.. she did finally call, two hours later, and asked how am I getting my ads to stay online because her ads keep disappearing shortly after she posts them. Because I'm a mature respectable ADULT I tried again to give her the advice she asked for. I told her that my friend , Alexus Cruise has had the same exact issue. Almost every time Alexus tries to post, it's only visible online for like thirty min and then it disappears .. If she logs into her account it says the ad is live and online, even tho it's not.. But for whatever reason, mine seem to stay up, for the most part anyways... I told her the ONLY THING I could think of is maybe the fact that I've had 20+ ads saved in my account for months, I just rotate the ads I post I'm not posting new ads each time... Maybe with backpage no longer accepting payments and the crazy amount of overposting lately, their servers just can't keep up? Or they're not putting in the man power to make sure every single ad shows online because they're not getting paid for it??? Idk?? I said I honestly don't what it is.. and with the nastiest attitude she says "Well apparently you do because your ads are staying up!! I guess you just won't help me then!!"" AGAIN I gave her what SHE ASKED FOR, and yet she's mad at me?? I just don't understand. How can someone who's so "highly reviewed" can be such an ugly person. Now ME on the other hand I'm a total sweetheart thru and thru nine times out of ten I couldn't be a Bitch if I TRIED and I get maybe one review a month while she gets one or two a week... Maybe I should turn my crazy up a notch and then you folks would like me better??? Just my two cents..

[JS42]

Welcome to the WK kingdom...glass houses and all that shit. See how that works?

[Guest013121]

Originally Posted by Kshunter

Interesting....I've been in various businesses for 25 years, and I've noticed that nobody ever bitches about those who are LESS successful than they are.

Depends on what you consider to be successful. I would say a girl that still lives out of $39.89 rooms after 500 reviews is unfuckingsuccessful.

Originally Posted by Savannah Moon

Perhaps, because Kimmy, myself and others who have been around for SEVERAL yrs have NEVER had issues AT ALL with her...PERHAPS it is possible that she has feelings & when she is treated like shit, that's what she passes back... who knows. What I do know is that when there is an issue coming from a certain group / clique then the whole slew of you tend to gang bang that person like your s*** doesn't stink... f****** pathetic

So what you and Kimmy haven't had problems with her. Doesn't mean the rest of us seasoned hobbyists are lying. It only means that she doesn't consider you competition. It's one thing to feel bad for the underdog--it's another to question the word of and verbally attack SEVERAL REPUTABLE SEASONED hobbyists. You are pretty fucking backwards here. I bet Kaylen is sending you several crybaby messages and putting on one helluva show for your ass! I won't try to convince you what I experienced from that girl, I don't need to. You'll see. And I'll remember the slew of names you indirectly threw out on this thread...

[Guest013121]

Originally Posted by Wizard of Ahhhhs

NOTE: A scolding "you don't even know me! smdh" PM coming in 5... 4... 3...

[Guest110923]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Depends on what you consider to be successful. I would say a girl that still lives out of $39.89 rooms after 500 reviews is unfuckingsuccessful.



Hold up--I'm reputable and seasoned, been around almost 11 years--and because I've personally had problems with her I must be lying and part of a clique, according you you??...ppffttt! It's one thing to feel bad for the underdog--it's another to question the word of and verbally attack SEVERAL REPUTABLE SEASONED hobbyists. You are pretty fucking backwards here. I bet Kaylen is sending you several crybaby messages and putting on one helluva show for your ass! I won't try to convince you what I experienced from that girl, I don't need to. You'll see. And I'll remember the slew of names you indirectly threw out on this thread...

This is why its good to see u back Gemma lol..

And Savannah... its not a conspiracy AGAINST kaylen. Its people FINALLY BEING HONEST about there interactions will her. Im not 'cliqued up' with ANY provider in KC... Have never even met any of the lovely kc ladies other than asking and providing references...
i could careless about her specials her reviews people that love her or the people that hate her...
Honestly if i didnt have the FUCKED-UP-AND- UNCALLED-FOR-OUT-OF-THE-BLUE interaction with her early last week ... I never would have even wasted my time replying to this crazy thread.
Im glad to know you interaction with her was awesome... i just wish all of US Could say the same.

If I want drama Ill watch TNT. If I want a reference for safety purposes I expect from someone as well known and reviewed to act like a PROFESSIONAL and not turn it in to a clusterfuck drama.
I REALLY DONT THINK THATS ASKING TOO MUCH...
I didnt personally attack her ABOUT ANYTHING...I shared my interaction with her and stated my opinion .AND Did so within ECCIE guidelines... and i KNOW i did bc a MOD actually pmed and said my replies were F'IN AWESOME LMAO.

As far as im concerned... its your business you run it WHATEVER way you see fit... the only 2 things that i think should be universal with all of us... You provide good service and treat the gents with respect..... and if youre going to pretend to be a part of the safety of the community you treat your fellow provider with RESPECT.

dont start shit with people then when the shit hits the fan and like a COWARD and like 'you did nothing wrong. Youre SOOO innocent and people are just ganging up on you FOR NO REASON'
THATS BULLSHIT AND I DONT RESPECT IT.
If you want to act like that FINE more power to u BUT stand by those actions and stop being TWO FACED about it and act like you did nothing wrong.

Other than that... its goingto be an AWESOME week... Hope you lovely KC ladies have a wonderful week and get out and enjoy some beautiful weather
XoXoX

[Grizzly]

I have stayed silent on this matter until now, I have had my own issues with said provider, some of my own making, some not so much. I was one of the suckers that tried to help her out but in the end I could not put up with her brand of crazy and got tired of being told she would either pay me back or give in trade, I have never seen the trade or money back. The only freebie i got from her was after my public meltdown with a certain provider that is no longer around thank god, that I got way to involved in with.

Gemma can vouch for me (i think) considering she got brought into a few of my run ins with Kaylen etc. A side not I apologize Gemma and hope you will forgive and let me make it up to you one day.

[Savannah Moon]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

Depends on what you consider to be successful. I would say a girl that still lives out of $39.89 rooms after 500 reviews is unfuckingsuccessful.



So what you and Kimmy haven't had problems with her. Doesn't mean the rest of us seasoned hobbyists are lying. It only means that she doesn't consider you competition. It's one thing to feel bad for the underdog--it's another to question the word of and verbally attack SEVERAL REPUTABLE SEASONED hobbyists. You are pretty fucking backwards here. I bet Kaylen is sending you several crybaby messages and putting on one helluva show for your ass! I won't try to convince you what I experienced from that girl, I don't need to. You'll see. And I'll remember the slew of names you indirectly threw out on this thread...

The SLEW I am referring to... they know WTF (W = who lol) they are. You've been gone for awhile...read up. I am NOT a QS Provider. . Therefore, I may rarely come across some of the same clientele, but LIKE I SAID I NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH HER. AND ( caps mean I'm serious ) the slew I am referring to... they KNOW I don't give a fuck what they think about me . I have a LARGE space on my ASS they can ..kiss, bite, whatever! HA!
MUAH Miss G..
Be safe everyone
have beautiful day, I'm going to a badass Waterpark and if I survive ( my mind tells me I am still a lil tomboy) we can sling more shit later... LOVE YA..

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by bigryan2222

Man, all I can say is that your join date clearly shows in this case...

...Also, don't say you are not taking sides when you clearly are. I really am fine with white knighting for the most part, but it has a tendancy to show either ignorance or lack of knowledge.

So there is a "date" in which I will lose my ability to think freely & form my own opinions? A date in which the omnipotent "eecie brain" will take over and control my perspective?

Lemme get this straight, a bunch of strangers whom I've never met tells me someone is bad & I MUST, accept & agree with them when I myself have not experienced these things with the person in question? You do know that your logic, based on your comment is the quentissential definition of being a drone?

No provider on this board has done this to me. And despite a group of strangers, whom I've never met, telling me that someone is guilty of this, will make me simply agree with their perspective. I may however look more closely at their warnings, but ultimately, I must decide for myself.

Now back on topic & removing all names from this crap. I do agree with many of the posts made. Particularly "sins" whom I have met many years ago. She says there is no room in this hobby for this type of behavior due to safety. I respect, understand, & appreciate her perspective. But I know that in the real world, these things happen & we must deal with them.

Bottom line in my opinion(being I have not yet reached the "join date" when the eccie brain replaces my own), we are all individuals & must live according to our own conciousness. If any of us is doing in something unscrupulous, we must accept those deeds as a reflection of part of our character & understand that there will be fallout for us as a result. But to mindlessly go along with the crowd when we have not exercised our own due diligence is the equivalent of the "Salem Witch Hunts" which history has shown to be one of our more aggregious atrocities.

[BigDeal]

Originally Posted by Cleo

No provider on this board has done this to me.

Your still new to the board.... stick around a little longer it will get more interesting