As Greece goes, so shall Puerto Rico?

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

So exactly what does a "No" vote mean?

It means the msm will start parading the destitute Greeks around portraying those they owe money to as evil. Which the so-called evil people will eventually cave to the pressure and hand out more money so they can continue not to work.

Similar to what happens in America when time comes to raise the debt ceiling.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

It means the msm will start parading the destitute Greeks around portraying those they owe money to as evil. Which the so-called evil people will eventually cave to the pressure and hand out more money so they can continue not to work.

Similar to what happens in America when time comes to raise the debt ceiling.

The Greeks are doing what Donald Trump might call , "The Art of the Deal"!

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by WTF

The Greeks are doing what Donald Trump might call , "The Art of the Deal"!

Now that I agree with. Even started to talk to Russia about getting help with the Rubles...Just to add a little threat.

The Greeks take their Socialism and unwillingness to work, to heights unseen in the modern world.

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

Now that I agree with. Even started to talk to Russia about getting help with the Rubles...Just to add a little threat.

The Greeks take their Socialism and unwillingness to work, to heights unseen in the modern world.

Good Lord, talking to the Russians about helping out with a debt.

Isn't that about the same as going to "Rocco" down on the docks to help you out with a car payment.

[JD Barleycorn]

A "NO" vote means that the people of Greece don't want anymore belt tightening and that the socialist Prime Minister pulled out a win.

So now what happens? The EU, lead by Germany, pulled Greece's nuts out of the fire a few years ago in return for some austerity measures (delayed retirements, postponed pension payments, requirements that government employees pay for some of their own healthcare and pension programs, etc.). The new government (socialist) came into office five months with promises that the belt tightening was over and everything was going back to normal. So Greece reneged on the previous deal and they're broke again.

Greece has to go forward with some kind of plan to pay off their debts (which they claim they can't) without any help (not likely). Or they have to be bailed out again by the EU and they want a new deal. Seems that many in the EU thinks it's throwing good money after bad but what do they do? Is Greece too big to allow to fail? What happens if they become totally bankrupt? At one point a few years ago, the Greek government raided some of the money from the accounts belonging to their citizens. You know, private money.

So here is where they stand;
1. Greece goes forward without aid and into bankruptcy.
2. Greece takes a deal with the EU and accept the conditions imposed by them.
3. Greece hopes that the EU will give them some credit without a deal.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Good Lord, talking to the Russians about helping out with a debt.

Isn't that about the same as going to "Rocco" down on the docks to help you out with a car payment.

Well, a good deal is something that works for both sides, if Russia would not work for Greece.....then again how much would the EU want threat of Russia in their backyard? Might spur the EU on to concessions!

WWII was started over German austerity! Oh the irony...

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Good Lord, talking to the Russians about helping out with a debt.

Isn't that about the same as going to "Rocco" down on the docks to help you out with a car payment.

Most definitely, but obviously the Greeks don't care about long term financial projections, or consequences. As long as they are happily retired in the now.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

Most definitely, but obviously the Greeks don't care about long term projections or consequences. As long as they are happily retired in the now.

Much like are old retiree's that are for nation building as long as their retirement money is not effected by that very nation building! You know , like the Iraq War...

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WTF

They want Greece to cut government services and RAISE TAXES.

So you now think it a good idea to raise taxes to spur economic growth?

You're as clueless as the freelance faggot from Arkansas. If you were paying attention, you would know that Tsipras wants to raise taxes MORE than the IMF deems prudent instead of cutting pensions and other spending. Greece has always had a bloated public sector suffocating the private sector growth engine.

Originally Posted by nwarounder

Even started to talk to Russia about getting help with the Rubles...Just to add a little threat.

Not a serious threat - Russia isn't about to bail them out and the EU knows it. But some of Tsipras' fellow leftists have hinted Greece might ease up on their border controls (allowing refugees and terrorists to flood the EU) if the debt negotiations don't go their way. Only total scumbags would make such a threat, however veiled.

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[WTF]

Originally Posted by lustylad

You're as clueless as the freelance faggot from Arkansas. If you were paying attention, you would know that Tsipras wants to raise taxes MORE than the IMF deems prudent instead of cutting pensions and other spending. Greece has always had a bloated public sector suffocating the private sector growth engine.

Well , looks to me like the IMF fucked up loaning out that money! ....you Kanas City Faggot.



Does your gay ass not see the irony in Germany crying about Greece's austerity measures or lack there of?

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WTF

Well , looks to me like the IMF fucked up loaning out that money! ....you Kanas City Faggot.

You've lost it completely. I'm not from "Kanas City". You're the one we call fagboy. And the IMF didn't loan all that money - they are involved to give the Greeks a vote of confidence if they implement sound economic policies. IMF loans are symbolic but encourage others to extend credit again.

You need another vacation because you're only making yourself look stupider and stupider with every post and I am rapidly running out of the patience needed to keep correcting you.
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[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

You're as clueless as the freelance faggot from Arkansas. If you were paying attention, you would know that Tsipras wants to raise taxes MORE than the IMF deems prudent instead of cutting pensions and other spending. Greece has always had a bloated public sector suffocating the private sector growth engine.




Not a serious threat - Russia isn't about to bail them out and the EU knows it. But some of Tsipras' fellow leftists have hinted Greece might ease up on their border controls (allowing refugees and terrorists to flood the EU) if the debt negotiations don't go their way. Only total scumbags would make such a threat, howwever veiled.

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You're the original freelance cum guzzler from Kansas via Chicago, Lusty Tard the Thai LadyBoy lover. And you speak of total scumbags. tsk tsk.

Russia isn't bailing out anybody. Long story short, they don't have the money. They've got financial problems of their own. They might cut a deal for some discount natural gas or some such bullshit, but the idea of them satisfying Greece's debt is not going to happen. And one could argue that the Russians like to stir up shit wherever they can, and that's true, but in this case they can't afford to. An EU that is in trouble does nothing to benefit Russia economically.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

You've lost it. I'm not from "Kanas City". You're the poster we call fagboy. And the IMF didn't loan all that money - they are involved to give the Greeks a vote of confidence if they implement sound economic policies. IMF loans are symbolic but encourage others to extend credit again.

You need another vacation because you're only making yourself look stupider with every post and I am rapidly running out of patience to correct you.

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Ruh-roh. He's running out of patience. Looks like it's time for... the ENFORCER!. Where's rey, you old butt-buddy. Stand up! Oh, shit, you're in a wheelchair.

He's the old cum guzzler from Pittsburgh via Chicago Way. He says Steel town has better ladyboys. Bigger ding dongs and stronger hands

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by WTF

Well , looks to me like the IMF fucked up loaning out that money!

They certainly did! And it's the exact same thing we do every time we vote to raise the debt ceiling so we can keep borrowing money to give to the people who refuse to work.
If things ever get too bad over here we will start having to ask the same hard question that the EU is asking about the Greeks who will not work.

Do we think these people will eventually start working, contributing, and help paying off the debt, or should we write them off and kick them from the community?

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

Russia isn't bailing out anybody. Long story short, they don't have the money...

Hey moron, I just said that! Do you have an original point to make or did you just crawl out of the Little Rock sewers to parrot what I said?