DEMOCRATS TREASONOUS PAST.......

[tulsatiger]

Like, for instance, getting no deal with Iran, which enables the hardliners to oust the moderates, then they try to make a bomb, then Israel strikes, then there is a MAJOR war in the mideast...

Yeah, I'm certain the GOP senators acted solely to educate the poor dumb Iranians for altruistic reasons, and would NEVER have done so for domestic political advantage. Obama summed it up pretty well when he said it appears that the GOP is aligned with the Iranian hardliners, which I would consider giving aid and comfort to people who called us "The Great Satan" and chanted "Death to America."

No, that couldn't possibly be treason, could it?

[timpage]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

What law did they break?

Maybe this one asshat.....

Consider 18 U.S. Code, Section 953, “Private Correspondence with Foreign Governments,” also known as the Logan Act. It reads in its entirety:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by timpage

Exactly correct. The letter, which is pretty much amateur hour, has nothing to do with advancing the ball or finding a solution to the Iranian nuclear issue.

The letter offers no solutions, no suggestions, nothing. It makes us look like some banana republic to the Iranians and our allies who are trying to get this problem sorted out through negotiation rather than war. As usual, the Republicans have no ideas, no strategy, nothing other than attacking the President of the United States as their political brand. Typical and sad.

Now this is funny

If the letter did address the issues, present "solutions" or what did you type? Advance the ball?

Then you might have something to complain about.

Thankfully, rightly and in fact it didn't interfere

[Whirlaway]

I think you need to re-certify your certification to practice law.....

The "Open" letter from Senators to the Mullah's was published ON LINE for all to see. It wasn't "private correspondence" Asshat !

Why are you such a dumbshit little TimmyTurd?

Originally Posted by timpage

Maybe this one asshat.....

Consider 18 U.S. Code, Section 953, “Private Correspondence with Foreign Governments,” also known as the Logan Act. It reads in its entirety:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

[timpage]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Now this is funny

If the letter did address the issues, present "solutions" or what did you type? Advance the ball?

Then you might have something to complain about.

Thankfully, rightly and in fact it didn't interfere

No, the letter just stated that if President Obama does reach a deal with Iran on the nuclear issues, the republicans will undo it or refuse to honor it in a few years. True statesmanship......in other words, the US does not honor its agreements.

You're an idiot.

[Whirlaway]

Yep....the letter informed the Mullah's about how our constitution works....

And from their response to the letter, it looks like they need to be schooled.....

Iranian Khamenei states ” but American senators officially announced the commitment will be null and void after this government leaves office. Isn’t this the ultimate degree of the collapse of political ethics and the U.S. system’s internal disintegration?”

The Mullah's own words show he is ignorant of our Constitution and needs to go back to school, along with TimmyTurd.

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Now this is funny

If the letter did address the issues, present "solutions" or what did you type? Advance the ball?

Then you might have something to complain about.

Thankfully, rightly and in fact it didn't interfere

[timpage]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I think you need to re-certify your certification to practice law.....

The "Open" letter from Senators to the Mullah's was published ON LINE for all to see. It wasn't "private correspondence" Asshat !

Why are you such a dumbshit little TimmyTurd?

Try reading the statute again dumbass. Here, I'll help.....

"directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign"

[timpage]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Yep....the letter informed the Mullah's about how our constitution works....

And from their response to the letter, it looks like they need to be schooled.....

Iranian Khamenei states ” but American senators officially announced the commitment will be null and void after this government leaves office. Isn’t this the ultimate degree of the collapse of political ethics and the U.S. system’s internal disintegration?”

The Mullah's own words show he is ignorant of our Constitution and needs to go back to school, along with TimmyTurd.

He states exactly what your senators' letter implies. And, he's right about how your political party is responsible for the eventual disintegration of our system of government if you and yours have your way. Unbelievable that you are too dense to see the effect of something like this....and even more unbelievable that you take the position without the slightest thought of an alternative or any sort of coherent policy in relation to the issue at all. It's about attacking Obama....nothing else. You're sad and stupid.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by timpage

You're an idiot.

on the one hand you complain about the letter being interference, calling it treason

and on the other hand you complain about the letter not suggesting solutions

who is the idiot?

[UnderConstruction]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

I asked this question already but didn't get an answer, how do you define treason? This letter provided no aid and no comfort to the enemy and that is the definition of treason. Perhaps you should invest in a dictionary before voicing stupid opinions about things you don't know about.

It provided no aid? It muddied the waters on negotiations. What if they back away from the table, continue to develop a bomb and we can point to this letter as the turning point. Still say it provided no aid? Perhaps YOU should think before you voice opinions that people smarter than you can read and reply to.

[Jackie S]

I for one feel a little uneasy about having a smarmy little Demagogue and his cadre of naive, stupid Lackeys negotiate something as important as a Nuclear Arms Deal with a bunch of Religous Thugs who have taken over a Country.

[UnderConstruction]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

I for one feel a little uneasy about having a smarmy little Demagogue and his cadre of naive, stupid Lackeys negotiate something as important as a Nuclear Arms Deal with a bunch of Religous Thugs who have taken over a Country.

Your ignorance is blinding. Germany, UK, France and Russia are all part of the negotiations.

I feel uneasy that people like you get to vote. I got over it.

[Whirlaway]

Try reading the title............"PRIVATE" correspondence....

By your lame standard any citizen who writes a similar letter to the Mullahs for publishing in the local Mayberry Gazette is a traitor!

You are the royal idiot.

Originally Posted by timpage

Try reading the statute again dumbass. Here, I'll help.....

"directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign"

[Whirlaway]

Your reply is too funny.............coming from the "Pen and A Phone" crowd.

Like Obama says,,,,,,,,Elections have consequences. If Obama wants a treaty with Iran, then he needs to get congressional approval. Otherwise, his "agreement" with Iran isn't binding on future presidents or Congress.

FACT JACK !

Originally Posted by timpage

He states exactly what your senators' letter implies. And, he's right about how your political party is responsible for the eventual disintegration of our system of government if you and yours have your way. Unbelievable that you are too dense to see the effect of something like this....and even more unbelievable that you take the position without the slightest thought of an alternative or any sort of coherent policy in relation to the issue at all. It's about attacking Obama....nothing else. You're sad and stupid.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by timpage

Maybe this one asshat.....

Consider 18 U.S. Code, Section 953, “Private Correspondence with Foreign Governments,” also known as the Logan Act. It reads in its entirety:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

The Logan Act goes back about 215 years. Are you ready to condemn democrats, living or dead, for their violations?
Check what you wrote but never really read:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

1. Women must be exempt.
2. Whose authority? Check the history, context is crucial.
3. Show me the intent to influence.
4. The United States includes the US Senate which is in the Constitution (advice and consent)

To conclude, you have neither a leg to stand on and a muriad number of democrats who have indeed violated the Logan Act over the years. People like Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, David Bonior, Jim McDermott, Charlie Wilson, Michael Thompson, Ron Dellums, and Ted Kennedy.