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Old 03-10-2015, 01:06 PM   #91
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The DOJ report is statistically flawed; it doesn't take into account the overwhelming black populations of the neighboring communities, whose residents travel thru Ferguson daily and subject to search.

For example, neighboring Berkeley, MO is 81% black compared to Ferguson which is 65% black....A credible statistical analysis of searches has to take this into account, if traffic stops are the measurement.

The DOJ report is a statistical sham; intended to show the results that Holder wanted.
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:20 PM   #92
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The DOJ report is a statistical sham; intended to show the results that Holder wanted.

it was cover for holder and obama and their innate racism

leaping at lies

sending white house representatives to the funeral

having the full force of the American government descend on a policeman
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:53 AM   #93
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The DOJ report is a statistical sham; intended to show the results that Holder wanted.

This explains why.


Ferguson, Lies and Statistics

Here’s a story for the media: a community in which honest people are afraid to tell the truth.



By Bret Stephens
Updated March 9, 2015 7:44 p.m. ET

Darren Wilson has been exonerated, again, in last August’s shooting death of Michael Brown, and that ought to be as much a vindication for the onetime Ferguson, Mo., police officer as it is a teachable moment for the rest of America.

It won’t be. The story line has failed, so the statistics have been put to work.

That the claims made against Mr. Wilson were doubtful should have been clear within days of Brown’s death, and again in November after a grand jury, having heard from some 60 witnesses, declined to indict the officer—an outcome one outraged commentator denounced as having “openly and shamelessly mocked our criminal justice system and laid bare the inequality of our criminal jurisprudence.”

Yet if anyone was openly and shamelessly mocking the criminal-justice system, it was so much of the media itself, credulously accepting or sanctimoniously promoting the double fable of Ferguson: that a “gentle giant” had been capriciously slain by a trigger-happy cop; and that a racist justice system stood behind that cop.

At least half that fable was put to rest last week by an exhaustive Justice Department report. It demolishes the lie that Brown was shot in the back, along with the lie that he was surrendering to Mr. Wilson, hands in the air, when he was shot. It confirms that Brown physically assaulted the officer, who had good grounds to fear for his life.

And it confirms that eyewitnesses either lied to investigators or refused to be interviewed out of fear of local vigilantes.

“Witness 109 claimed to have witnessed the shooting, stated that it was justified, and repeatedly refused to give formal statements to law enforcement for fear of reprisal should the Canfield Drive neighborhood find out that his account corroborated Wilson.”

Witness 113 “gave an account that generally corroborated Wilson, but only after she was confronted with statements she initially made in an effort to avoid neighborhood backlash. . . . She explained to the FBI that ‘You’ve gotta live the life to know it,’ and stated that she feared offering an account contrary to the narrative reported by the media that Brown held his hands up in surrender.”

Now there’s a story for the media: A community in which honest people can’t tell the truth for fear of running afoul local thugs enforcing “the narrative reported by the media.” Or is that more of a story about the media?

But let’s move to the other Ferguson fable, which is the Justice Department’s allegation, in an unfortunate second report, of systemic racism in the Ferguson police department.

For a flavor of this claim, it’s worth noting an incident recounted in the report, in which a Ferguson man was killed “after he had an ECW [Taser] deployed against him three times for allegedly running toward an officer swinging his fist.” The man “had been running naked through the streets and pounding on cars that morning while yelling ‘I am Jesus.’ ”

According to the Justice Department, this incident is an example of “overreliance on force when interacting with more vulnerable populations.”

This isn’t to say that the report doesn’t uncover more serious problems, including a number of racist emails in the department, policing that seems needlessly obnoxious or aggressive, and a municipal government desperate to prosecute every minor violation of the law in order to maximize city revenues—in effect, using cops as taxmen.

But this only demonstrates the journalistic truism that you can always find the “story” you’re looking for. Using ticket revenue and other fines to raise revenues is one of the oldest municipal tricks in the book, so much so that the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis even published a paper about it in 2006. “As local tax bases have been exhausted and public opposition to increases in local tax rates have increased over time, local governments face increased pressure to find alternative sources of revenue,” noted economists Thomas Garrett and Gary Wagner.

That turns out to be as true in Milwaukee, Nashville and Washington, D.C., as it is in Ferguson. So are we talking about institutional racism or just the usual government bloodsucking?

Then there’s the report’s abuse of statistics, notably of the fact that African-Americans are 67% of Ferguson’s population but are disproportionately arrested for crime.

Is this racism? The Missouri Statistical Analysis Center notes that in 2012 African-Americans, about 12% of the state’s population, constituted 65% of murder arrests and 62% of murder victims. To suggest that the glaring statistical disproportion between relative population size and murder rate is somehow a function of race would be erroneous and offensive. Yet tarring a police force as racist for far smaller statistical discrepancies is now one of the privileged “truths” of 21st century America.

The lesson of Darren Wilson is that there is no truth in narrative. And the lesson of Ferguson is that there is no truth in statistics. There is truth in fact. There is truth in reason. There is truth in truthfulness. Nothing less.

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Old 03-11-2015, 02:14 AM   #94
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holder puts forth the fallacy of disparate impact... applying the disparate impact theory to law enforcement is a recipe for anarchy...

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Is disparate your word of the day?

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Complete and utter bullshit... you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Racism did this.

Lookee here! Undercunt reveals how ignorant and utterly unqualified he is to opine on the subject. The guy isn't even remotely familiar with the specious legal theory of disparate impact used by Holder's DOJ to "prove" racism without having to show intent. He thinks NGIAT is making it up. Undercunt is so stupid he doesn't know what he doesn't know. So like a true cocksucking libtard, he accuses the OTHER guy of not knowing what he's talking about!

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Old 03-11-2015, 02:55 AM   #95
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Undercunt is so stupid he doesn't know what he doesn't know. So like a true cocksucking libtard, he accuses the OTHER guy of not knowing what he's talking about!
Or he's so dishonest, he does know and attempts to avoid the consequences of the truth by his tactic of ...

...accusing "the OTHER guy of not knowing what he's talking about!"

.. accusing the OTHER guy of not being able to read!"

...or just calling the OTHER guy names to imply a lack of mental capacity.

In the final analysis the "infection will out"!

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Complete and utter bullshit... you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Racism did this.
UC "believes" Wilson is a "racist" so he believes the shooting was racially motivated even though the entire weight of the Federal Government was on Wilson's head and the Federal Government concluded otherwise. Sounds like UC is the "racist" .... anti-White.
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:10 AM   #96
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And it was all predicated on increasing revenue. Sad.
Who do you want to pay for law enforcement and the criminal justice system?

Here's the reality flaw in your "logic" given the current plight of Black people under the "caring" and "sympathetic" gazes of YOUR MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE:

.. since Black people have the highest unemployment and the highest poverty level, and therefore unable to pay fines and court costs, it does NOT COLLECT ANY REVENUES to ARREST BLACK MEN and put them in jail where they cannot bond out, have to sit out their fines and court costs on a per diem basis, and during that time in jail remain an expense and financial burden on Government. That is one primary reason there are more Black people in jails and prisons ... they can't afford to get out. ... and they are less likely to be able to raise the funds within their families who don't give two shits about them and can't afford to anyway.

So, using your "logic," just exactly how does that raise money?

Remember: You are claiming the alleged racism is generating revenues.
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Old 03-11-2015, 07:53 AM   #97
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:36 AM   #98
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Lookee here! Undercunt reveals how ignorant and utterly unqualified he is to opine on the subject. The guy isn't even remotely familiar with the specious legal theory of disparate impact used by Holder's DOJ to "prove" racism without having to show intent. He thinks NGIAT is making it up. Undercunt is so stupid he doesn't know what he doesn't know. So like a true cocksucking libtard, he accuses the OTHER guy of not knowing what he's talking about!

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I've forgotten more than you know, my little friend. Keep living in a dreamworld, dumbass. You're one of the saddest fucks on here. And I pity you. So if you don't intend to be racist, it doesn't count? Brilliant. We're back to a lie isn't a lie of you believed it at the time.
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:28 PM   #99
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So if you don't intend to be racist, it doesn't count? Brilliant.
Quit now, you stupid fool. Take pity on yourself. When you are in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. Do your fucking homework. Look up disparate impact. Read and learn.
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