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Old 02-08-2015, 01:48 PM   #1
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Default Climate change ?

I just saw on TWC that up to two more feet of that white stuff "climate change" can be expected this week for Up-state NY and the rest of New England.
I feel bad for those poor souls out fighting off "climate disruption" and shoveling "global warming" by the foot, just to get to their vehichles.

I am glad that the global temperature only increased two/hundreths of a degree this past decade. Can you imagine the level of snowfall if had gone up one whole degree ???
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Old 02-08-2015, 01:57 PM   #2
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More than 97% of the world's climate scientists agree that you're "ignorantly wrong," to mimick your self-admitted hero, Cornholio.

Climate patterns are changing. That's a scientific fact.

You don't even understand what the debate's about, do you?

Comes as no surprise, you're just spewing misinformation out your BUNGHOLE!

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Old 02-08-2015, 02:09 PM   #3
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Do you have a link to a source stating that 99.9% of all scientists agree that global warming is occurring, AssupLiar? Or are you just blowing out your bunghole?

To quote your favorite butt-buddy, "WHERE'S THE FRIGGIN' LINK?"
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Old 02-08-2015, 02:20 PM   #4
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I just saw on TWC that up to two more feet of that white stuff "climate change" can be expected this week for Up-state NY and the rest of New England.
I feel bad for those poor souls out fighting off "climate disruption" and shoveling "global warming" by the foot, just to get to their vehichles.

I am glad that the global temperature only increased two/hundreths of a degree this past decade. Can you imagine the level of snowfall if had gone up one whole degree ???
Winter+spring+summer+fall= climate change deal with it.
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Old 02-08-2015, 02:22 PM   #5
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No I was wrong. The real number is "more than 97%." I have edited the post on the subject. So sorry for the exaggeration. I was off by a couple of points.

You should have no problem corroborating that number, even with some of your favorite RWW publications.

But here are a few links for you to dispute, as I'm sure you will. But your new "sweet ass" Cornholio won't.

Any other nits to pick, Glory Hole?

http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...termediate.htm

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-percent-figu/

BTW -- It's over 80 degrees today here in the ATX, and record highs were recorded during January, FWIW.
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[QUOTE=Yssup Rider;1056360525]More than 97% of the world's climate scientists agree....

Tired of reading and hearing that BS more than 97%...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...consensus-not/

Since 1998, more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” Included are atmospheric physicists, botanists, geologists, oceanographers, and meteorologists.

Contact these scientists.

I don't have a carbon exchange... I don't have a carbon footprint equal to 100 people... that's Al Gore, not me. So if you think this is a problem and the climate should always be stable contact Al Gore who thinks purchasing carbon credits is a cure. And remember the Sun plays no role... Geoengineering will save us all!
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:05 PM   #7
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And I think the rest of the world is tired of hearing nuts like you deny what's in your faces, SEE.

This is one of the most ridiculous debates in recent history.
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:08 PM   #8
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First the earth was flat, wait, no it isn't. Then gravity was bullshit. Nope, fucked that one up too. Then evolution was a myth. 0 for 3. What's with all this snow, climate change can't be real. Science will always win in the end.
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:34 PM   #9
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I just saw on TWC that up to two more feet of that white stuff "climate change" can be expected this week for Up-state NY and the rest of New England.I feel bad for those poor souls out fighting off "climate disruption" and shoveling "global warming" by the foot, just to get to their vehichles.I am glad that the global temperature only increased two/hundreths of a degree this past decade. Can you imagine the level of snowfall if had gone up one whole degree ???
I do not get caught up to any great degree in the global warming debate. Hell, with the exception of 4 years in the military, I've lived in Texas for most of my entire life.

Texas and heat (especially in the summer months) go together like ice and tea!

However, I must admit that the facts seem to strongly indicate that the earth is (at the very least) in a gradual warming trend.

With that said, I find it comical when after a heavy snowfall (somewhere in the world), some Wannabee Einstein concludes that winter weather cannot be occurring if the earth is indeed in a warming trend.
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Old 02-08-2015, 06:42 PM   #10
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Of course the climate is changing. It has been doing this for some 6 billion years, or how ever old the Earth is.
The big argument is whether mankind can do anything about it. And, is the cost to our way of life even worth the effort, since one large volcano eruption spews more " bad stuff" into the atmosphere in a day than mankind has since the invention of the automobile.

What has given the proponents of " climate change" such a bad name is it has turned into a redistribution of wealth scheme. Just another way to tax people out of their earnings.

It's like socialism, or even communism. I am all for either, as long as I can have The Dacha on the Volga, and you are digging potatoes in Siberia.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:16 PM   #11
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More than 97% of the world's climate scientists agree that you're "ignorantly wrong," to mimick your self-admitted hero, Cornholio.

Climate patterns are changing. That's a scientific fact.

You don't even understand what the debate's about, do you?

Comes as no surprise, you're just spewing misinformation out your BUNGHOLE!

You are so angry little man !
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Science will always win in the end.
And "Science" is defined as following the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. To wit.. 1) Develop a Hypothesis. 2) Predict what will happen if the hypothesis is correct. 3) Develop a TEST to determine if the predictions hold up.

So... For Global Warming/Climate Change, 1) Hypothesis=Humans are causing the climate to warm.. whoops.. change 2) Prediction: In 20 years, the average temperatures will go up measurably/significantly. 3) Data shows the temperatures DID NOT GO UP AS PREDICTED.

Normally, following the SCIENTIFIC METHOD, a new or adjusted hypothesis would be proposed. What we got was .. a bunch of excuses about "heat sinks in the ocean" and "unexpected solar activities" to "blame" the prediction failure on.

So.. let us know when the Pro-Climate Change folks will actually FOLLOW the Scientific Method, ok?
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:32 PM   #13
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And I think the rest of the world is tired of hearing nuts like you deny what's in your faces, SEE.

This is one of the most ridiculous debates in recent history.

Ok Yssup Liar,
Since the globe you believe is in trouble......
What is your mode of transportation ?
What is your thermostat set on ?
What size is your carbon foot print ?
What are you doing to shrink that foot print ?
How are you going to get rid of all them cattle farts ?
Will you just suck them up like you do all that other liberal swill ?
What is your plan to heal the planet ?
Will you give up eating ?
Everything you consume is brought to your table thru the use of fossil fuels !
Farming, fishing, ranching, clothing and more.
Everything in your home is powered by fossil fuels. Unless you have a solar/battery powered tooth brush. That is about as far as you can go on solar.

So come on big mouth. Let us heart all your answers to solve this global bullshit you swallow.
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And "Science" is defined as following the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. To wit.. 1) Develop a Hypothesis. 2) Predict what will happen if the hypothesis is correct. 3) Develop a TEST to determine if the predictions hold up.

So... For Global Warming/Climate Change, 1) Hypothesis=Humans are causing the climate to warm.. whoops.. change 2) Prediction: In 20 years, the average temperatures will go up measurably/significantly. 3) Data shows the temperatures DID NOT GO UP AS PREDICTED.

Normally, following the SCIENTIFIC METHOD, a new or adjusted hypothesis would be proposed. What we got was .. a bunch of excuses about "heat sinks in the ocean" and "unexpected solar activities" to "blame" the prediction failure on.

So.. let us know when the Pro-Climate Change folks will actually FOLLOW the Scientific Method, ok?
Actually you are not correct. If you were talking about global warming, then you would be more correct. But evidence for climate change is quite abundant. Animal migrations where they weren't because the regional climates ARE changed. The storms simpletons like Rio think are "proof" against climate change are actually strong evidence FOR. A while back I posted several links and data about the significantly increased number of major hurricanes. If Rio and his co-deniers would study a little physics they would see that heat changes do evaporate more moisture, do generate more pressure changes which show up as winds. But unfortunately it is easier for some people to just make silly stupid statements like the OP.

Under C is right--science will win out over simpletons. Science is right up there with demographics as an immutable reality. Jackie S is also right: the real question is how we will adapt and who will prosper, who will lose. The day we decided to rebuild New Orleans we made a stand for stupidity and putting our head in the sand. That will eventually change, but the question is how many dumb political based decisions will we make first.
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Actually you are not correct. If you were talking about global warming, then you would be more correct. But evidence for climate change is quite abundant. Animal migrations where they weren't because the regional climates ARE changed. The storms simpletons like Rio think are "proof" against climate change are actually strong evidence FOR. A while back I posted several links and data about the significantly increased number of major hurricanes. If Rio and his co-deniers would study a little physics they would see that heat changes do evaporate more moisture, do generate more pressure changes which show up as winds. But unfortunately it is easier for some people to just make silly stupid statements like the OP.

Under C is right--science will win out over simpletons. Science is right up there with demographics as an immutable reality. Jackie S is also right: the real question is how we will adapt and who will prosper, who will lose. The day we decided to rebuild New Orleans we made a stand for stupidity and putting our head in the sand. That will eventually change, but the question is how many dumb political based decisions will we make first.
And again we go with the redefining terms. Ok, I was talking about the cultists of the AGW crowd. As for the "evidence of climate change is quite abundant".. the whole point is, the "cultists" take the FACT that the climate changes.. and has ALWAYS changed from hotter to colder to hotter to colder over and over.. and tried to then say.. this time it is due to humans. That last codicil about it being "due to humans" is the sticking point.
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