Tell your clients to rate you on HoneyPot, the first APP for escort reviews

[Ninamarie]

Will do !

[DFW_Ladies_Man]

any plans for a windows phone version? (or apple ios)

[MaxiMilyen]

That's awesome for the ladies who will see any and every Joe Blow, but what kinda discretion do you have for gents who prefer a more discreet, low volume, and safer provider? I, and many others, do not provide a phone number until screening takes place, because We hobby and are kinda safe that way. Not saying the way others provide is not right, just saying.....be safe. If it's convenient for one and no screening is used, what are ya really getting yourself into when ya use and encourage others to use this type of thing? Best of luck and I know it'll be great for all those who have no need/desire for safe screening and ladies who do not mind taking on anyone and everyone.

Question, if ya do get our numbers and info, do ya plan on using them for your app without our permission? Cause we already know that lots of sites do that in order to build a base of ladies the gents can choose from. Just wanna know if I need to go ahead and change my number now...lol. Cause if I wanted everyone calling, I'd list it myself. Are ya able to decipher which ladies prefer one way or another? Do ya even check? Sorry, I always am curious.

[mjsw]

Originally Posted by Solitaire

Is this related to Project Honeypot?

Nope, the app is an independent initiative.

Originally Posted by SmokingHotLatina

Do you have any banners or something to help promote the app?

Yes! We just bought a banner ad here on Eccie. It's the yellow one on top of the forum
Do you like it?

Originally Posted by txboi817

any plans for a windows phone version? (or apple ios)

Currently we are not planning to make it compatible with Windows. We are busy releasing a newer version of HoneyPot which allows clients to search providers by their email address.

[oesman]

Have you considered not calling it HoneyPot?

In computer terminology, a honeypot is a trap set to detect, deflect, or, in some manner, counteract attempts at unauthorized use of information systems. Generally, a honeypot consists of a computer, data, or a network site that appears to be part of a network, but is actually isolated and monitored, and which seems to contain information or a resource of value to attackers. This is similar to the police baiting a criminal and then conducting undercover surveillance.

Not sure I'd install software called honeypot on my phone from someone that just registered here.

Also you claimed this was an app you found in this thread:

http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1055653408&postcount=29

Now you're saying it's your app. What's up with that? Wanted to do a little astroturfing earlier?

Originally Posted by mjsw

Today I've invested 20 minutes of my time searching for an app but the only thing I could find is this one: apphoneypot.com. Doesn't seem very popular though.

Why aren't nerds developing apps for this hobby?!

[mjsw]

Originally Posted by oesman

Have you considered not calling it HoneyPot?

Not sure I'd install software called honeypot on my phone from someone that just registered here.

Also you claimed this was an app you found in this thread:

http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1055653408&postcount=29

Now you're saying it's your app. What's up with that? Wanted to do a little astroturfing earlier?

HoneyPot is just a very nice way of calling a woman's vagina, that's it.

Busted! we didn't mean to do some astroturfing though. In that period we were still beta-testing HoneyPot, therefore we needed some real users to interact with the app. The response we had resulted in the release of the complete and final version of HoneyPot.
In addition, we wanted to test people's response towards this kind of app.

[oesman]

Originally Posted by mjsw

HoneyPot is just a very nice way of calling a woman's vagina, that's it.

Busted! we didn't mean to do some astroturfing though. In that period we were still beta-testing HoneyPot, therefore we needed some real users to interact with the app. The response we had resulted in the release of the complete and final version of HoneyPot.
In addition, we wanted to test people's response towards this kind of app.

Clearly you're a very reputable and trustworthy person... I'm sure it's a great idea to install software you're writing.

[mjsw]

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

That's awesome for the ladies who will see any and every Joe Blow, but what kinda discretion do you have for gents who prefer a more discreet, low volume, and safer provider? I, and many others, do not provide a phone number until screening takes place, because We hobby and are kinda safe that way. Not saying the way others provide is not right, just saying.....be safe. If it's convenient for one and no screening is used, what are ya really getting yourself into when ya use and encourage others to use this type of thing? Best of luck and I know it'll be great for all those who have no need/desire for safe screening and ladies who do not mind taking on anyone and everyone.

Only clients who already have your phone number at hand can search it on HoneyPot. If you provide your phone number only after the screening takes place, that's when a client can look for your reviews on HoneyPot. The same happens for writing a review; you need to have the phone number, you cannot simply browse random phone numbers.

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

Question, if ya do get our numbers and info, do ya plan on using them for your app without our permission? Cause we already know that lots of sites do that in order to build a base of ladies the gents can choose from. Just wanna know if I need to go ahead and change my number now...lol. Cause if I wanted everyone calling, I'd list it myself. Are ya able to decipher which ladies prefer one way or another? Do ya even check? Sorry, I always am curious.

We do not harvest phone numbers or reviews from other websites.
You don't need to worry, your phone number will appear on HoneyPot only if one your client chooses to review you on the app. Plus, in case you find that your number has been reviewed on HoneyPot, you can simply contact us through the contact form and request your number to be removed from our database.

Hope I clarified all your doubts

[JennaKae]

hmm....or , you can just google a providers phone#/email and find reviews. Granted you will have to visit multiple sites to see all the reviews (Eccie/NaughtyReviews/TER ect), but you will not have to install an app on you phone called HoneyPot. I would image that installing an app on ones phone will not work well for the 90 + % of my clients that are married and/or in a serious relationship.
Anyho....good luck.
peace...J

[oesman]

Originally Posted by JennaKae

hmm....or , you can just google a providers phone#/email and find reviews. Granted you will have to visit multiple sites to see all the reviews (Eccie/NaughtyReviews/TER ect), but you will not have to install an app on you phone called HoneyPot. I would image that installing an app on ones phone will not work well for the 90 + % of my clients that are married and/or in a serious relationship.
Anyho....good luck.
peace...J

Honestly the whole thing is bizzare. First this guy registers on this forum last year in order to do market research. He makes a thread complaining about how he can't find a good provider, because he can't find reviews, and basically saying his infomercial version of "there must be a better way?!"

Everyone tells him to just use a review board, he says he doesn't know one, people tell him he's on one right now... Most people basically explain to him that review sites and boards are perfectly fine to find quality providers. There is a wealth of information out there. At this point his market research should have revealed "hey no one really thinks finding reviews is so hard... and they're telling me to find a new hobby".

Instead he then posts a links to an app (this app...) he claims he "found" to see if people think that's a better idea than a review board. Everyone is like "meh", and then 4 months later he comes back to the site to start promoting that same app which he now claims was actually his app the whole time.

At the moment making apps has become somewhat a modern gold rush so people are making apps for all kinds of shit; You don't need an app for everything, but that's not stopping people from slapping together a bunch of shitty apps anyway. Maybe I'm wrong and it's a great idea, but I don't get the point. Like you said you can just google, or visit any of the sites/boards. I don't think you can replace the context around any given review on a board with a simple review app. Furthermore why should anyone install software written by some guy that likes to lie to us considering the legal status of our hobby?

[mjsw]

Originally Posted by JennaKae

hmm....or , you can just google a providers phone#/email and find reviews. Granted you will have to visit multiple sites to see all the reviews (Eccie/NaughtyReviews/TER ect), but you will not have to install an app on you phone called HoneyPot. I would image that installing an app on ones phone will not work well for the 90 + % of my clients that are married and/or in a serious relationship.
Anyho....good luck.
peace...J

When coming up with a name and logo, we took that scenario into serious consideration. That's why the icon and name of the app are ambiguous

[mjsw]

Originally Posted by oesman

Honestly the whole thing is bizzare. First this guy registers on this forum last year in order to do market research. He makes a thread complaining about how he can't find a good provider, because he can't find reviews, and basically saying his infomercial version of "there must be a better way?!"

Everyone tells him to just use a review board, he says he doesn't know one, people tell him he's on one right now... Most people basically explain to him that review sites and boards are perfectly fine to find quality providers. There is a wealth of information out there. At this point his market research should have revealed "hey no one really thinks finding reviews is so hard... and they're telling me to find a new hobby".

Instead he then posts a links to an app (this app...) he claims he "found" to see if people think that's a better idea than a review board. Everyone is like "meh", and then 4 months later he comes back to the site to start promoting that same app which he now claims was actually his app the whole time.

At the moment making apps has become somewhat a modern gold rush so people are making apps for all kinds of shit; You don't need an app for everything, but that's not stopping people from slapping together a bunch of shitty apps anyway. Maybe I'm wrong and it's a great idea, but I don't get the point. Like you said you can just google, or visit any of the sites/boards. I don't think you can replace the context around any given review on a board with a simple review app. Furthermore why should anyone install software written by some guy that likes to lie to us considering the legal status of our hobby?

Oesman I understand your concerns, but trust me we are a very reputable company. Three years ago we launched a website-based escorts review board. It is a successful website, thus we know what we are talking about when developing something for clients/escorts. We wanted to test the market sentiment towards apps while getting a real life feedback from users. The thread was meant to be provoking.

To understand the added value of HoneyPot, you simply need to read the "WHY IS IT DIFFERENT?" section on http://apphoneypot.com/

If you still don't think we are a serious organization I can email you our contacts, so that we can talk personally

[oesman]

Originally Posted by mjsw

To understand the added value of HoneyPot, you simply need to read the "WHY IS IT DIFFERENT?" section on http://apphoneypot.com/

Let's dissect that section:

most websites do not provide clients with enough feedback and information about the escorts they want to book

Existing boards like this site allow for context around a review, such as clarification, reputation of reviewer, other's reaction to the review, information about safety of parts of town/locations, etc... It's not just a star rating and review text. So in fact it's much more feedback and information.

The only common denominator among the different platforms in which escorts are advertised is the phone number.

Some well established providers do not give out their phone number to people they haven't met/screened. So they would be missing from your platform, despite being popular in the hobby. Phone numbers of others are already easily googled if you want to find other reviews on other sites.

Furthermore handles are actually more important than phone numbers. Reviews are generally tied to handles while phone numbers are disposable. A well established escort will have plenty of reviews, so she's not going to ditch her handle and start over. I'm sure you've heard of burner phones/prepaid plans, you know the ones you get with cash at a corner store? Lots of providers and hobbyists use those, because there are stalkers, LE, or sometimes too many people have your number. I've seen providers change phone numbers much more often than aliases, though both happen.

So all in all there are major flaws in your idea:

- You don't seem to quite understand this business.
- You think phone numbers are more important than handles, but this is a black market business and it's not true, phones are disposable.
- Other sources of information that are well established, reputable and more detailed exist.
- You're going to have to convince people as to the legitimacy of your reviews considering there's no other context to establish the validity of reviewers.
- Not everyone wants a hooker app on their primary phone, even single guys, in case someone borrows the phone. If they have a hidden second phone, then they'd have to dig it up and possibly explain it to their SO every time they want to do research.

[mjsw]

Beside the "major flaws" paragraph, your analysis is thorough and accurate and I agree with it. What you don't seem to understand is our target audience, we are not trying to disrupt the way this hobby works. HoneyPot is just meant to be a complementary tool for clients to search for reviews based on the escort's phone number. For reviews based on handles you can still use existing review boards, we are not jealous

I'll give a real life example, so that you can better understand what HoneyPot aims to solve compared to online review boards:
You find an escorts phone number on a personal website/print advertisement/escort directory in which reviews are not listed, take your smartphone out, enter the phone number and read reviews for free, that's it.
Without HoneyPot you would either risk it or try to Google the phone number, browsing each and every website hoping for a review (which are rarely free to read).

For the sake of this discussion - it's simple to take a sentence out of context and construct an argument out of it. It feels as if you are a competitor trying to ridicule our work. You are bringing the discussion off-topic, if you wish to do so we can exchange opinions privately or you can open a new thread. We do appreciate your feedback though.

HoneyPot is a well received app and works fine for our target audience, simply read the comments left by other Eccie users on this thread. We are simply trying to improve HoneyPot by listening to user suggestions.

[MaxiMilyen]

I have mentioned on several occasions that reviews are not the most trustworthy thing when choosing a lady. I can see the activities listed on mine. I was there, and I should know what happened, what I offer, and what I don't. I'll try to contact the gent after the fact, but alas, no response....imagine that? It's happened more than once, so don't be upset at ladies or even wonder why one would choose not to allow reviews at all.

Once again I'm gonna state, that reviews are not the most reliable piece of info that the gents can rely on. I understand why some gents go for services I don't provide as evidenced simply by the activities listed. smh

So, keep us in the dark, but note that truth comes to light, one way or another, whether intentional or not. Go ahead and try what the other fella said he did, and find yourself not welcomed back for round two.

Gents place too much emphasis on the reviews and activities than they do on the actual lady and the experience of spending time with her. Some gents may write accurate reviews, but you'll never know unless the ladies can see the whole thing to begin with. All of my reviews state yes, but not for the reasons you believe. If ya want some honesty, rather than fiction, ask a lady. I am not really YMMV as those here mean it. I am YMMV, because I will never respond to two different people the same. I'm no robot, and neither are the other ladies.

Now, having stated as I did, just know, ROS is all fine and dandy for some, and lotsa folks are creative and enjoy sharing their prowess and exploits. However, my personal stance is that intimate and personal is just that. If it were my decision, I'd do away with ROS, because there's enough info with out mentioning rolling and spinning and humping and groaning in order for intelligent men to make decisions. But hey, I realize my opinion matters very little on a male opinion dominated, back slapping, atta boy site.

A new app for gents to seek reviews is laughable to me. We need an app where the ladies can clear up some of these fairytales and misconceptions. LOL. ijs. Cause thanks to the way it is now, I also have to ask every guy who contacts me, if he believes certain activities might occur, and set him straight on the misconceptions I have no way to clear up without calling a gent out or embarrassing him or me.

Carry on with your fairytales and beliefs that reviews are ALL that, reliable and totally accurate. They aren't and that's the truth as it really is. I appreciate the site for many other reasons, but reviews have done less than I can do myself, to attract the gents I prefer to provide for. They only tend to muck things up now and again. If I wanted that, I'd do it myself.

At the very least, this site (ECCIE) might consider giving the ladies the opportunity to offer a list of services, much as P411 allows for. That way, the gents can see for themselves without depending on another gent's word, and as evidenced by what a lady states she actually offers. And the ladies who rather not discuss rates and services have no reason to be approached with those. I hardly feel comfortable asking gents to refer to reviews, because it's obvious to me just how inaccurate some might be, and I don't have access to ROS. Imagine what a rant I'd be on if I did? LOL

When they say reviews are fiction! You better believe! Just from the view I have, I know that can be true! I'd be willing to bet if it's happened more than once to me in 55 reviews, it's happened to almost every lady here. Don't shoot the messenger, just be grateful the message is out there. I can only give as accurate info as I can, when I can. And while grateful to be a woman in a man's world, I realize, yes, it's still a man's world. Let's just keep it a little more honest for those joining and for the ladies being tolerated, and even sometimes appreciated, as participants.