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Old 10-16-2014, 03:33 PM   #16
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"computer model"????

You mean like ....."001000100100000111100001 01010101000001010"

There are (or were) members of the administration providing testimony about the realities and the preparedness (or lack there of is better).

Didn't the Department of Health and Human Services run a "computer model" on the "Affordable Health Care Act"?
Care to make a prediction on how many in this country will be dead in six months from Ebola? That was the question.

Or do you just want to talk shit and turn this into a political blame game?

I agreed with boardman and think one needs to educate yourself on the subject matter.

After doing just a little bit it wasn't hard for me to make a prediction. Are you to Chickenshit to do so?

Oh and while we are at it, let me do a typical LL shift AIDS happened on Reagan's shift....How fast was your Hero to act on AIDS?
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Old 10-16-2014, 03:35 PM   #17
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But you said it with a question mark, which leads me to believe you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Typo...

I knew enough to understand the thread topic. Are you to Chickenshit to make a prediction?


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Old 10-16-2014, 04:42 PM   #18
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As for these numbers being thrown out, they are from the same people that said Ebola would not come here, that you could keep your health insurance, that the website would work, and that there shovel ready jobs. I'll wait and watch. Anyone know how the family of Duncan is doing?
After the US spent $500,000 in medical care for him, his family is complaining that the non-US citizen who lied to get into the country did not get faster care because he is black and did not have health insurance.

Of course, he didn't have health insurance in Liberia either, but why quibble?
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Old 10-16-2014, 04:46 PM   #19
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As for these numbers being thrown out, they are from the same people that said Ebola would not come here, that you could keep your health insurance, that the website would work, and that there shovel ready jobs. I'll wait and watch. Anyone know how the family of Duncan is doing?
Uh, are you already face down in the gutter, JDIdiot?

Do you really give a frog's fat ass about the family of Duncan? Or are you afraid they'll open a vein and bleed into your favorite brewery's water supply?

What a fucking phony!

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Care to make a prediction on how many in this country will be dead in six months from Ebola? That was the question.

Or do you just want to talk shit and turn this into a political blame game?

I agreed with boardman and think one needs to educate yourself on the subject matter.

After doing just a little bit it wasn't hard for me to make a prediction. Are you to Chickenshit to do so?
You're being obnoxious.

What is the basis for saying 10 or 12? Did you pick that up from a source that is using Michael Duncan as the index patient? Did they extrapolate a worst case of 12 based on how many people came in contact with Duncan and the two nurses?

Neither you nor they have any idea how many more infected people will come into the country in the next 6 months.

Even if no one beyond the two nurses gets sick from Micheal Duncan, we could easily get 15 or 20 more who arrive here already carrying Ebola in the next 6 months. Do they count as US cases or not?

Ebola virus is in all bodily fluids, including semen. If some sick guy gets a HJ in an Asian massage parlor, what then? They aren't the most sanitary places to begin with. Once the girls start coughing on each other and the customers, what then? Those are instanced where the girls won't be quick to seek medical attention (no money) and contacts will be difficult to trace (for obvious reasons).

Then we could see many dozens of cases.

Or, if it doesn't happen, then zero.

But, I can see the TV reports now:

"The police have asked that any clients who visited the Asian Sun "health spa" in the last three weeks seek medical help immediately. All screening is free and all client names will be kept confidential.

But, just in case, bring your wife in with you."

Do they have that scenario built into their computer models?

The thing is, there are too many unknowns that can wildly affect the outcome. Right now, it is baseless speculation.

But if a bad case like that occurs in Korea town, I can predict that the administration and health authorities will say it was an outlier - a fluke situation that should never have occurred and really shouldn't be counted.

If Ebola gets loose in the underworld, there will be a lot more cases than anticipated, because those are the types of people who don't exactly follow protocols and are hesitant to deal with the authorities.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:11 PM   #21
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You're being obnoxious.

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I'm asking for a prediction. I do not care how you come about it. You can base your prediction on what you know or what you may not know
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:13 PM   #22
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After the US spent $500,000 in medical care for him, his family is complaining that the non-US citizen who lied to get into the country did not get faster care because he is black and did not have health insurance.

Of course, he didn't have health insurance in Liberia either, but why quibble?
Somebody with some authority needs to tell this "Familly" to go fuck themselves.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:21 PM   #23
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You're being obnoxious.

What is the basis for saying 10 or 12? Did you pick that up from a source that is using Michael Duncan as the index patient? Did they extrapolate a worst case of 12 based on how many people came in contact with Duncan and the two nurses?

Neither you nor they have any idea how many more infected people will come into the country in the next 6 months.

Even if no one beyond the two nurses gets sick from Micheal Duncan, we could easily get 15 or 20 more who arrive here already carrying Ebola in the next 6 months. Do they count as US cases or not?

Ebola virus is in all bodily fluids, including semen. If some sick guy gets a HJ in an Asian massage parlor, what then? They aren't the most sanitary places to begin with. Once the girls start coughing on each other and the customers, what then? Those are instanced where the girls won't be quick to seek medical attention (no money) and contacts will be difficult to trace (for obvious reasons).

Then we could see many dozens of cases.

Or, if it doesn't happen, then zero.

But, I can see the TV reports now:

"The police have asked that any clients who visited the Asian Sun "health spa" in the last three weeks seek medical help immediately. All screening is free and all client names will be kept confidential.

But, just in case, bring your wife in with you."

Do they have that scenario built into their computer models?

The thing is, there are too many unknowns that can wildly affect the outcome. Right now, it is baseless speculation.

But if a bad case like that occurs in Korea town, I can predict that the administration and health authorities will say it was an outlier - a fluke situation that should never have occurred and really shouldn't be counted.

If Ebola gets loose in the underworld, there will be a lot more cases than anticipated, because those are the types of people who don't exactly follow protocols and are hesitant to deal with the authorities.
He's not "being obnoxious" ... He IS OBNOXIOUS. And IGNORANT.

Everything you mentioned, "distorts" the "value" of a "computer model."

And everything you mentioned is a reasonably probable event.

It's now 3 nurses, and the CDC Director today said they are "monitoring" 50 more persons .... under oath before Congressional subcommittee ...

as the "ripple" effect expands the circles of exposed persons the numbers will "geometrically" increase. No one needs a "computer" ... all it takes is someone with personal knowledge of public schools during flu season.

It's fucking common sense. Which people "being obnoxious" lack.

Since the obnoxious one brought up AIDS ... the early reports were that it was "sexually transmitted" .... during that time a lady-friend of mine, who was an emergency room nurse, informed me that every Friday they were getting tested for AIDS, even though they wore "protective" gear/shields when working with patients .... since she was fucking the patients ... it seemed rather apparent that someone was bullshitting ... just like they started out on this SOCIALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE.

The liberals had the same "agenda" then, but with a different minority group.
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I checked Vegas, they don't have a line on this yet.
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Since the obnoxious one brought up AIDS ... the early reports were that it was "sexually transmitted" .... during that time a lady-friend of mine, who was an emergency room nurse, informed me that every Friday they were getting tested for AIDS, even though they wore "protective" gear/shields when working with patients .... since she was fucking the patients ... it seemed rather apparent that someone was bullshitting ... just like they started out on this SOCIALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE.

The liberals had the same "agenda" then, but with a different minority group.
A lady-friend nurse of your was fucking AIDS patients....hmmmm next you'll say you never were a nurse!


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It's fucking common sense. Which people "being obnoxious" lack.

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Common sense tells us that is a fucking lie.... "being obnoxious" has no correlation with lacking in common sense.

Why do you lie so much?
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This is a video of an African Hospital that is overwhelmed with Ebola. You'll notice how primitive it is and it's lack of sanitation. There is few scenes I find unusual especially towards the end. I want to see if anyone else catches what I saw.


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http://youtu.be/xUBpoyKxArU?list=PL4...rMMETAx3BslA4X
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:18 PM   #28
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The OP has not read John Donne (look it up) but he does demonstrate the difference between a conservative and a liberal. To us each death is a tragedy because each person is an individual. To the liberal we are all part of a great collective and ten, a hundred, a thousand deaths is all part of the process towards a great universal left wing government.

As for these numbers being thrown out, they are from the same people that said Ebola would not come here, that you could keep your health insurance, that the website would work, and that there shovel ready jobs. I'll wait and watch. Anyone know how the family of Duncan is doing?
"Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." I love Donne!
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It's now 3 nurses...
it is? Where did they find the third nurse, LLIdiot?
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No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
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