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Old 05-08-2014, 08:59 PM   #1
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Exclamation Are You Ready For Some Football...er...Soccer? World Cup/Copa Mundial 2014!

So The World Cup is almost upon us, a little over a month to go(actually 34 Days, 4 Hours and 12 Minutes as of this post) and the big news yesterday was Luiz Felipe Scolari(Big Phil) announced his Brasil world cup 23. A few notable players were left off, namely Kaka, Robinho, Ronaldinho, and surprisingly Miranda. Although to be honest, not really surprised by some of this decision when you consider some of these guys are in their thirties(at least that's what they admit to) and the fact that his side gelled and regained that joga bonito form during the last Confederations Cup eventually winning and spanking the kings of the world España 3 - nil).

The Seleção look like they can do some real damage on their home turf and possibly get a sixth having won 13 of the last 14, although I don't know, it seems unlikely. Spain is still Spain after all and there's Germany and Argentina to get through as well, but you have to trust Big Phil's instincts, he's been here before, remember the flack he got for leaving Romário and the potential Ro-Ro attack(Romário - Ronaldo)off the team in 2002 and his instincts proved correct then.

But enough about Brasil.

Here in the US we may not be as psyched as the rest of the planet in gearing up for the month-long plunge in global worker productivity that comes with world cup time.

This time it turns out that Team USA are kinda buggered with the draw they have. The dreaded Group G, Grupo de la Muerte, the Group Of Death (G.O.D...as in only GOD can help 'em clear the group stage).

GROUP G
Germany
Portugal
Ghana
USA

Germany's the strongest side in this group, and they SHOULD advance( although I thought the same of Italy last time, but nevermind, the Germans SHOULD). The other from this group has me in a bit of a quandary and is REALLY difficult to call.

Portugal is Portugal and has one of, if not the best player on the planet right now, and have been accused of being a one man team. But when the man in question is Cristiano Ronaldo, who's next to impossible to neutralise (ask Barca, although the last Copa del Ray was really the Gareth Bale show), I like their chances.

The Black Stars have been in disarray during qualifying over pay, and I feel have taken a step backward since the last WC, they had a disappointing Africa's Cup of Nation's and Nations Championship's, losing to Libya 3 - 4 on penalties in the Final. They beat the Americans in the round of 16 last go round, and I feel are a real threat to the Americans advancing from group this time again. Anyway, that's what I think, Germany and Portugal from this group, so I'll concur with Nate Silver but I'll hedge and say it's gonna be a tough call. Anything could happen.

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Old 05-11-2014, 02:50 PM   #3
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I'm ready for it dvr is ready also
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:39 AM   #4
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Outstanding Champions League clash today...for those who DVR'd like me and assiduously avoided any results, I'll only say the team from Madrid won.

http://www.socceramerica.com/

In US football/soccer news:

Jurgen Klinsmann released his final 23 man squad for Team America(F*ck Yeah!!!). I have to say I'm a little disappointed that Landon Donovan didn't make the cut. For all his contribution to US football/soccer he may have deserved a spot on the roster, especially as Klinsmann well knows that this squad no matter who he puts on the pitch ain't making it out of group. Would have been a classy and deserving send off. But Klinsmann and Donovan have not seen eye to eye on his role on the squad. and Donovan's a little older and heavier, but he's a wizard in the midfield and Klinsmann may have had designs on him playing forward. Either way, it's a shame.

U.S. ROSTER:

GOALKEEPERS (3): Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Tim Howard (Everton), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake)

DEFENDERS (8): DaMarcus Beasley (Puebla), Matt Besler (Sporting KC), John Brooks (Hertha Berlin), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Timmy Chandler (Nuremberg), Omar Gonzalez (LA Galaxy), Fabian Johnson (Borussia Moenchengladbach), DeAndre Yedlin (Seattle Sounders)

MIDFIELDERS (8): Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Alejandro Bedoya (Nantes), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Brad Davis (Houston Dynamo) , Mix Diskerud (Rosenborg), Julian Green (Bayern Munich), Jermaine Jones (Besiktas), Graham Zusi (Sporting KC)

FORWARDS (4): Jozy Altidore (Sunderland), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders FC), Aron Johannsson (AZ), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes).
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Brazil has to much pride to go easy on their own turf. They have a great team too! Brazil will make final 4 if not all!!!
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Brazil has to much pride to go easy on their own turf. They have a great team too! Brazil will make final 4 if not all!!!
Glad you feel so strongly BA, but play them through using the brackets above. I think they'll finish top of their group, probably meet The Netherlands(is my best guess)in the round of 16.

But their path takes them on a collision course with Spain in the final, my best guess, whom they've actually beaten recently, but not on this big a stage, when it really counts.

Although there is something to be said for home pitch advantage(think France in 1998), and while I abhor Spain, they're still solid and tough to beat.


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i doubt Brazil wins ...they couldnt even beat Mexico in London in the Olympics
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:05 PM   #8
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i doubt Brazil wins ...they couldnt even beat Mexico in London in the Olympics
Michael Cox from The Guardian WC Blog makes some good points. They could do it.

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Cool Another Argument For The Hosts...

Nate Silver makes a pretty compelling case for the hosts here (a bit diffuse, but worth the read) and here. But the game is played on the pitch not by algorithm. I'd be overjoyed if it plays out this way though!

1 Day, 4 Hours & 15 Minutes

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COME ON ENGLAND!!!!!!!

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Carry on...
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Cool It's ON!!! Brasil 3 Croatia 1

Not a GREAT start for the hosts, but they did score 4 goals...LOL

A suspect penalty from a dive in the box, an own goal and shoddy defence were the low points.

I hope they get better as this thing goes on and today was a one off because of nerves.

But, they got the three points, but if they keep playing like this they won't make it too far beyond group.

Sorry Daft...this lot better enjoy the time away from the wags and enjoy the hookers in Brasil, cuz they won't be playing for long.


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Not a GREAT start for the hosts, but they did score 4 goals...LOL

A suspect penalty from a dive in the box, an own goal and shoddy defence were the low points.

I hope they get better as this thing goes on and today was a one off because of nerves.

But, they got the three points, but if they keep playing like this they won't make it too far beyond group.

Sorry Daft...this lot better enjoy the time away from the wags and enjoy the hookers in Brasil, cuz they won't be playing for long.









England could well be rubbish...

But, we also have the skill on the day to beat anyone in this cup. As Jose' said on the Beeb that's the BBC for you yanks...England could go out with no points or win the whole fucking thing. Who knows! I'll tell you this I'm bloody footy mad! Plus, what a good excuse for rampant binge drinking. Brilliant!
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England could well be rubbish...

But, we also have the skill on the day to beat anyone in this cup. As Jose' said on the Beeb that's the BBC for you yanks...England could go out with no points or win the whole fucking thing. Who knows! I'll tell you this I'm bloody footy mad! Plus, what a good excuse for rampant binge drinking. Brilliant!
Italy 2 England 1

Your boys did impress me in defeat though, Daniel Sturridge and my young itren from the Caribbean Raheem Sterling are a class act. And who knows Costa Rica and certainly Uruguay look beatable, so this team may make it past group, but unfortunately not much further.


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For now we're still in it. For me Rooney disappointed. I should've known better really...he played like shit all season for us at United. We need to let Sterling & Sturridge command the attack. I also say give Ross Barkley a go. He played brilliantly at Everton this year. I still remember England 5 Germany 1 in Munich. Been a longtime since we played like that. Mores the pity...


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Your boys did impress me in defeat though, Daniel Sturridge and my young itren from the Caribbean Raheem Sterling are a class act. And who knows Costa Rica and certainly Uruguay look beatable, so this team may make it past group, but unfortunately not much further.


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