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Old 10-17-2013, 06:33 PM   #31
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Just like I thought. You have no problem with anybody in the Obama administration ever being not held accountable. You are the comsummate Obamatron!
NG, I hate to be picky, but CBJ7 is an ObamaTON. The ObamaTRON is the big machine in Chicago that transmits what he is supposed to think. Ijs.

Oh, and the website contract was let to a Canadian company on a no-bid basis. How's that working for you, you "Buy American" jingoists?

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Old 10-17-2013, 07:03 PM   #32
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It is like when the Defense. Department contracts with any number of contractors and the initial product is not up to snuff. Maybe the Military could run the program. Nobody would talk shit about their fuck ups after they droned the first few who did!
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:47 PM   #33
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NG, I hate to be picky, but CBJ7 is an ObamaTON. The ObamaTRON is the big machine in Chicago that transmits what he is supposed to think. Ijs.

Oh, and the website contract was let to a Canadian company on a no-bid basis. How's that working for you, you "Buy American" jingoists?



First contract came from the Bush admin to this company. They have set up sites for some states that have worked ok . They just fucked the government. But about everyone does that.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:06 PM   #34
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Default Obama Inc. Gave Failed Obamacare Website Co a Sweetheart Deal

Obama Inc. Gave Failed ObamaCare Website Company a Sweetheart Deal

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Questions were raised before why Obama Inc. suddenly began throwing so much money toward a Canadian company with a poor track record.
CGI Federal is a subsidiary of Montreal-based CGI Group. With offices in Fairfax, Va., the subsidiary has been a darling of the Obama administration, which since 2009 has bestowed it with $1.4 billion in federal contracts, according to USAspending.gov.
In comparison, in 2008, under President George W. Bush, CGI contracts totaled only $16.5 million for all federal departments and agencies.
It’s not like CGI Federal could be confused with a good company. There were plenty of warnings throughout the whole process that the whole thing was not going to work.
When Canadian officials in Ontario ran into the same problem with CGI… they fired it.
Canadian provincial health officials last year fired the parent company of CGI Federal, the prime contractor for the problem-plagued Obamacare health exchange websites, the Washington Examiner has learned.
CGI Federal’s parent company, Montreal-based CGI Group, was officially terminated in September 2012 by an Ontario government health agency after the firm missed three years of deadlines and failed to deliver the province’s flagship online medical registry.
Obama just kept throwing more taxpayer money at CGI. And the entire ObamaCare setup was reserved for only one company.
Federal officials considered only one firm to design the Obamacare health insurance exchange website that has performed abysmally since its Oct. 1 debut.

Rather than open the contracting process to a competitive public solicitation with multiple bidders, officials in the Department of Health and Human Services’ Centers for Medicare and Medicaid accepted a sole bidder, CGI Federal, the U.S. subsidiary of a Canadian company with an uneven record of IT pricing and contract performance.
CMS officials are tight-lipped about why CGI was chosen or how it happened. They also refuse to say if other firms competed with CGI, or if there was ever a public solicitation for building Healthcare.gov, the backbone of Obamacare’s problem-plagued web portal.
Instead, it appears they used what amounts to a federal procurement system loophole to award the work to the Canadian firm.

CGI was a much smaller vendor when it was approved by HHS in 2007. With the approval, CGI became eligible for multiple awards without public notice and in circumvention of the normal competitive bidding procurement process.

There is no evidence CMS issued any public solicitation for the Obamacare website contract.
This smells bad. No, it outright stinks. And it merits a serious investigation. Why did Obama Inc. suddenly begin tossing a ton of work to CGI and practically reserve ObamaCare for them?
General Accountability Office acting counsel Linda H. Gibson noted that at the time CMS officials had only rated some of CGI’s previous services as “fair.”
But it sounds like their insider Obama contacts were more than unfair.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenf...eetheart-deal/

CBJ7 said, "Why would anyone in the Obama administration suffer because of the consequences of a government contract"? CBJ7 is more concerned about protecting the Obama administration than he is about protecting the American taxpayers from being fleeced.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:01 PM   #35
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You mean Sebelius hired incompetent consultants and wasted hundreds of millions of tax dollars ?

No surprise ! And their incompetence won't stop.......
Kind of like haliburton, only they've fleeced us for 100s of billions.There was recently a cost over run of 1 billion dollars on navy ships, WHERE"S THE OUTRAGE?
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:23 PM   #36
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Obama Inc. Gave Failed ObamaCare Website Company a Sweetheart Deal

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Questions were raised before why Obama Inc. suddenly began throwing so much money toward a Canadian company with a poor track record.
CGI Federal is a subsidiary of Montreal-based CGI Group. With offices in Fairfax, Va., the subsidiary has been a darling of the Obama administration, which since 2009 has bestowed it with $1.4 billion in federal contracts, according to USAspending.gov.
In comparison, in 2008, under President George W. Bush, CGI contracts totaled only $16.5 million for all federal departments and agencies.
It’s not like CGI Federal could be confused with a good company. There were plenty of warnings throughout the whole process that the whole thing was not going to work.
When Canadian officials in Ontario ran into the same problem with CGI… they fired it.
Canadian provincial health officials last year fired the parent company of CGI Federal, the prime contractor for the problem-plagued Obamacare health exchange websites, the Washington Examiner has learned.
CGI Federal’s parent company, Montreal-based CGI Group, was officially terminated in September 2012 by an Ontario government health agency after the firm missed three years of deadlines and failed to deliver the province’s flagship online medical registry.
Obama just kept throwing more taxpayer money at CGI. And the entire ObamaCare setup was reserved for only one company.
Federal officials considered only one firm to design the Obamacare health insurance exchange website that has performed abysmally since its Oct. 1 debut.

Rather than open the contracting process to a competitive public solicitation with multiple bidders, officials in the Department of Health and Human Services’ Centers for Medicare and Medicaid accepted a sole bidder, CGI Federal, the U.S. subsidiary of a Canadian company with an uneven record of IT pricing and contract performance.
CMS officials are tight-lipped about why CGI was chosen or how it happened. They also refuse to say if other firms competed with CGI, or if there was ever a public solicitation for building Healthcare.gov, the backbone of Obamacare’s problem-plagued web portal.
Instead, it appears they used what amounts to a federal procurement system loophole to award the work to the Canadian firm.

CGI was a much smaller vendor when it was approved by HHS in 2007. With the approval, CGI became eligible for multiple awards without public notice and in circumvention of the normal competitive bidding procurement process.

There is no evidence CMS issued any public solicitation for the Obamacare website contract.
This smells bad. No, it outright stinks. And it merits a serious investigation. Why did Obama Inc. suddenly begin tossing a ton of work to CGI and practically reserve ObamaCare for them?
General Accountability Office acting counsel Linda H. Gibson noted that at the time CMS officials had only rated some of CGI’s previous services as “fair.”
But it sounds like their insider Obama contacts were more than unfair.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenf...eetheart-deal/

CBJ7 said, "Why would anyone in the Obama administration suffer because of the consequences of a government contract"? CBJ7 is more concerned about protecting the Obama administration than he is about protecting the American taxpayers from being fleeced.
Helluva job, Barry!
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:27 PM   #37
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So, DrLug, your point is that since Halliburton ripped off the government, we must now sit quietly while other companies do the same. Makes sense in some universe, I guess.

And I wouldn't hire Halliburton for anything. Their leaders should be in jail, and Dick Cheney should be tried for war crimes.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:22 PM   #38
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To be more correct, Microsoft's failure and errors in products have spawned far more technology companies than they ever "beat" . . . damn little pesky facts.
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If a private company tried to market a product that didn't function correctly, a competitor would step in and offer a product that did work, and the first company would fail. Competition also encourages effeciancy and modernization; whereas, government bureaucracies encourage "status quo" stability.
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Thanks for proving that point, MoonHowler.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:53 AM   #39
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But isn't it good to know that it's the same government that now controls your health care, Stand Duped?
The insurance companies are in control. No more than 20% of the USA population will be using the Obamacare exchanges. The other 80% will get their health insurance where they work. A new rule for the health insurance companies is that they can't deny someone health insurance due to a pre-existing condition. This is something they use to do in the individual market. The insurance companies will be insuring more high risk people and the premium in the individual market can go up to take on the increased risk. No insurance company can survive by just insureing high risk people. Group rates are generally lower because the insurance provider is getting a large group of people to insure(like + 25,000) at one time. Most of these people are low risk. If you work at a large company you don't have to take any tests to get your insurance. With the individual market, you have to take a tests, they want to make sure you are not already sick. The government is not controlling everyone's health care. Instead it is allowing the uninsured to become insured. If a family of 4 makes less than $20,000 that family will be on their states Medicaid program. People in this earnings range don't make enough to get an Obamacare policy at the government exchanges.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:58 AM   #40
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The insurance companies are in control. No more than 20% of the USA population will be using the Obamacare exchanges. The other 80% will get their health insurance where they work. A new rule for the health insurance companies is that they can't deny someone health insurance due to a pre-existing condition. This is something they use to do in the individual market. The insurance companies will be insuring more high risk people and the premium in the individual market can go up to take on the increased risk. No insurance company can survive by just insureing high risk people. Group rates are generally lower because the insurance provider is getting a large group of people to insure(like + 25,000) at one time. Most of these people are low risk. If you work at a large company you don't have to take any tests to get your insurance. With the individual market, you have to take a tests, they want to make sure you are not already sick. The government is not controlling everyone's health care. Instead it is allowing the uninsured to become insured. If a family of 4 makes less than $20,000 that family will be on their states Medicaid program. People in this earnings range don't make enough to get an Obamacare policy at the government exchanges.
That's not even close to being true. Everybody is in Obamacare: read the law -- the plan is to have every, single citizen either subsidizing or being subsidized. BTW, when did IRS agents quit working for the government?
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