Escorts, GFE ...and the Courtesan experience

[stimulatethemind]

Originally Posted by Bigh1955

To a point, but there are elements to the "courtesan experience" that are generally missing in even "high-end" hobby related activities. Perhaps the most salient element is the seduction process. The time, effort, and impact of this is what often causes these types of relationships to last decades. While most hobbyists seek to avoid emotional entanglements, the courtesan experience may very well begin with this element, and it may be weeks before sex becomes a part of the relationship. The second element is refinement. This element extends to every facet of the relationship - and by relationship I mean far more than a one hour appointment, or even an overnight. A relationship with a courtesan is perhaps eighty percent social and twenty percent sexual - I don't know, but I think Pareto was onto something. Again, this aspect of the relationship would not be a good fit for most hobbyists. Refinement begins with communication, specifically how you speak, what you talk about, and your openness to various points of view. Most hobby encounters are too short for this level of connection to take place - given the primary focus is on the twenty percent topic. Selectivity is another major difference. I believe it's due to the more social nature of the relationship in the courtesan experience, but both parties, the prospective client and courtesan, are seeking someone they can truly enjoy relating to on levels besides sexually - not to diminish the sexual aspect, but it is only a small part of the relationship. The financial aspects are normally handled far differently in a relationship with a courtesan - there are generally no envelops or stacks of 50's left in the bathroom or on a nightstand. All IMH experience.

Most hobby engagements are bit like hooking up with someone you meet at a club on Saturday night. The sex is what it is - and please don't stay for breakfast. A courtesan experience involves someone who is engaged to become a confidant, perhaps a dear friend - with benefits.

Finally, someone gets it. With a true (modern day) courtesan, it's not just about the sexual component; it's also about the friendship, the companionship, the pure enjoyment of each others company and the real, true caring for each other. As I've said in previous postings, the lady I see and I typically spend 6-7 hours together and only an hour or so is BCD time. Neither of us really care what we do on our dates, it's primarily about just spending time together. We share many more intimacies than just in the bedroom. I have met members of her family and I have accompanied her to Dr. and dentist appointments, because she asked me to and I wanted to. Yes, the physical part of our relationship is wonderful, but it is so incredibly enhanced by the mutual caring and respect we share.

I am fully aware that my experience is not typical, and that I am indeed fortunate to have met this amazing woman and have her become a part of my life. She is intelligent, articulate, kind, caring and (added bonus) stunningly beautiful. Most of us are very lucky to have a few TRUE friends; those who stick with us through thick and thin and who genuinely care about us in spite of our faults. She is among a very select few that I count among mine.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a pure sexual relationship; it can be fantastic. However, if you are ever fortunate enough to meet a woman like the lady I see, cherish her.

[PhantomofTheOpera]

It's easy to put all people, places and things into a single classification as it requires no intelligence, ability or aptitude. The difficult part comes in understanding the differences, and how those differences fit into the tapestry called reality.

In regards to the relevant discussion, Courtesan is an outdated term that has morphed into a different sense of classification. The dated nature of the term does not mean it has no relevance, or is inappropriate, in its use. Rather, its use requires those using it to be of an ability to understand the past while applying the current, to a term that is meant to show that the object of the term is of highest quality, just like Olivia’s allusion.

I have met more than my fair share of whores whom I would never associate with outside of the transaction, and that is all it was. There have been only a few that rose to the top, like cream, whom I have genuinely enjoyed the non-BCD interaction. Of those very few, only one ever rose to know me in the real world, and I her. To this day, she and I are true friends even if she has been retired from hooking for years, and she is still a Courtesan in every sense of the word.

[heinz5710]

Originally Posted by Bigh1955

To a point, but there are elements to the "courtesan experience" that are generally missing in even "high-end" hobby related activities. Perhaps the most salient element is the seduction process. The time, effort, and impact of this is what often causes these types of relationships to last decades. While most hobbyists seek to avoid emotional entanglements, the courtesan experience may very well begin with this element, and it may be weeks before sex becomes a part of the relationship. The second element is refinement. This element extends to every facet of the relationship - and by relationship I mean far more than a one hour appointment, or even an overnight. A relationship with a courtesan is perhaps eighty percent social and twenty percent sexual - I don't know, but I think Pareto was onto something. Again, this aspect of the relationship would not be a good fit for most hobbyists. Refinement begins with communication, specifically how you speak, what you talk about, and your openness to various points of view. Most hobby encounters are too short for this level of connection to take place - given the primary focus is on the twenty percent topic. Selectivity is another major difference. I believe it's due to the more social nature of the relationship in the courtesan experience, but both parties, the prospective client and courtesan, are seeking someone they can truly enjoy relating to on levels besides sexually - not to diminish the sexual aspect, but it is only a small part of the relationship. The financial aspects are normally handled far differently in a relationship with a courtesan - there are generally no envelops or stacks of 50's left in the bathroom or on a nightstand. All IMH experience.

Most hobby engagements are bit like hooking up with someone you meet at a club on Saturday night. The sex is what it is - and please don't stay for breakfast. A courtesan experience involves someone who is engaged to become a confidant, perhaps a dear friend - with benefits.

I know you aren't kidding. You describe what some on here are calling the SD\SB relationship. Consider this. How many of the ladies here calling themselves Courtesons will actually meet you for a social relationship for free? I won't say none but indeed there are very few. Regardless of what they are called, the ladies here provide a needed and loved service. It bothers me when someone calls them all whores, uses them and discards them. I have been with ladies only once, but there was something that made me not come back. i.e. she was much older than her pictures, she took me to the bathroom immediately and handed me soap and mouthwash, she had reviews saying BBBJ but for me all was covered. Now the big one. She said,"I hope you had fun because I didn't!" Then there are the ones who upsell you if you want to turn over and do anything but missionary. Yes, I have been with all those ONCE. The two ladies I have been with recently, I plan to visit again. One I gave money to just to help her out (no sex). Imagine that, no sex. On the other side of the coin, I know zero ladies on this board who would PM me asking for an appointment without money or material things changing hands. That excludes me paying for the meal. Therefore, I think your definition of Courteson or Sugar Babe or whatever you want to call it is skewed.

[Wakeup]

Whores are whores...girlfriends are whores...wives are the biggest whores out there...

If you're trying to differentiate between types of whores, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment...

That's why my wife is so awesome. She's not a whore to me, I've never been a client of hers...I don't spend a single cent on her, she actually gets pissed when I try to buy her things. At that point you can start to distinguish what type of woman you have based on your relationship...the second you spend money on them to try and get something for yourself, they're a whore...

[PhantomofTheOpera]

^^ LOL! Keep trying son, eventually you will figure things out.

[PleasantSurprise]

Bigh1955, I like your post and I agree with you, I would literally have to use a fine tooth comb to find any areas that I disagree with you on, and even then, I'm not sure if I would find anything. One part I did have a question about... the part in bold... in your experience, how were the financial aspects held? I really like what you have said, very well put.

Originally Posted by Bigh1955

To a point, but there are elements to the "courtesan experience" that are generally missing in even "high-end" hobby related activities. Perhaps the most salient element is the seduction process. The time, effort, and impact of this is what often causes these types of relationships to last decades. While most hobbyists seek to avoid emotional entanglements, the courtesan experience may very well begin with this element, and it may be weeks before sex becomes a part of the relationship. The second element is refinement. This element extends to every facet of the relationship - and by relationship I mean far more than a one hour appointment, or even an overnight. A relationship with a courtesan is perhaps eighty percent social and twenty percent sexual - I don't know, but I think Pareto was onto something. Again, this aspect of the relationship would not be a good fit for most hobbyists. Refinement begins with communication, specifically how you speak, what you talk about, and your openness to various points of view. Most hobby encounters are too short for this level of connection to take place - given the primary focus is on the twenty percent topic. Selectivity is another major difference. I believe it's due to the more social nature of the relationship in the courtesan experience, but both parties, the prospective client and courtesan, are seeking someone they can truly enjoy relating to on levels besides sexually - not to diminish the sexual aspect, but it is only a small part of the relationship. The financial aspects are normally handled far differently in a relationship with a courtesan - there are generally no envelops or stacks of 50's left in the bathroom or on a nightstand. All IMH experience.

Most hobby engagements are bit like hooking up with someone you meet at a club on Saturday night. The sex is what it is - and please don't stay for breakfast. A courtesan experience involves someone who is engaged to become a confidant, perhaps a dear friend - with benefits.

[heinz5710]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Whores are whores...girlfriends are whores...wives are the biggest whores out there...

If you're trying to differentiate between types of whores, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment...

That's why my wife is so awesome. She's not a whore to me, I've never been a client of hers...I don't spend a single cent on her, she actually gets pissed when I try to buy her things. At that point you can start to distinguish what type of woman you have based on your relationship...the second you spend money on them to try and get something for yourself, they're a whore...

Any lady reading this should refuse to see this person. Obviously he doesn't think much of you. I wonder how long it will take him to discover his wife isn't free either.

[Wakeup]

Heh...guys have said that about me for years...hasn't stopped anything...

It's a very simple formula...pay her, she's a whore...I laugh at all you married guys...

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Whores are whores...girlfriends are whores...wives are the biggest whores out there...

What about wives that earned almost the same for most of the marriage and as and more than their husbands for several years like I did? I'm pretty sure Mr. Howard didn't feel like a kept man.

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

If you're trying to differentiate between types of whores, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment...

You're a disappointed man. It's obvious to all but you.

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

That's why my wife is so awesome. She's not a whore to me, I've never been a client of hers...I don't spend a single cent on her, she actually gets pissed when I try to buy her things.

And when she's in town she pays you rent I presume.

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

At that point you can start to distinguish what type of woman you have based on your relationship...the second you spend money on them to try and get something for yourself, they're a whore...

Here's what you don't get Peaches, everybody, everywhere gives and takes; and more to the point, they don't call the exchange whore's business.

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Heh...guys have said that about me for years...hasn't stopped anything...

It's a very simple formula...pay her, she's a whore...I laugh at all you married guys...

Here's another news flash for you Peaches. You pay because you have to; no one would have you otherwise given your attitudes towards women. I doubt Mr. Heinz is painted with the same miserable brush that you are.

I know, I know you are just trying to be provocative. For some you are. For your betters you are not. We're still waiting to hear whether you know the difference between an engineer that runs a train, is a merchant marine or works in the applied sciences. Answer that and we can begin the debate if you "pay" your "wife". But there's yet another news flash - you do pay her. You just don't think we know the currency.

[Wakeup]

Bitter whores...always fun times...

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Bitter whores...always fun times...

Stop liking your posts Peaches....................So you're going with the avoidance and subject changing verses the dumb blond I-don't-understand-what-you-mean approach. Ok; I can work with bitter.....................

..................No Peaches, you are the bitter one. You're a bitter man because your a disappointed man. Please continue with your one man crusade to being down the hooker world with your angry diatribe of hookers are dumb, mean, stupid, fat, lazy, tax evaders, or whatever else gives you a chuckle when you alone with your fat little fingers and your keyboard. We're amused. Mostly by the "wife" fantasy. Guess you're never going to answer the rent thingie.

[Wakeup]

Rent? And why did you automatically assume I was calling you a bitter whore?

P.S.-I haven't liked a post in...ever...okay, maybe once...

[JayceeRivers]

It seems to me, wakeup's posts are short brief and with little elaboration. I would imagine, taking into account the signature as well, he is more inclined to be interested in attention rather than stated a firm belief. Perhaps his enjoyment comes merely with the debate or riling people to the point of anger.... In gamers speak I believe he is trolling.

Allotting for the chance that he is not desperate for attention or an argument, his views may not have been learned by direct action but rather indirect. Such as observing a father figures views. Alternatively and lastly as you pointed out, Olivia, he may very well be tainted by bad experiences with women in his youth.

Heinz: I believe almost all the ladies who are not out for money only would without a doubt will be disinclined to take a appointment with the gentleman in question.

Stimulatethemind: your constant flattery is going to go to my head and always a beautifully written, articulate thought process.

Bigh: I adored your response. Very astute and articulate. I look forward to reading more of your posts throughout the board.

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Rent? And why did you automatically assume I was calling you a bitter whore?

P.S.-I haven't liked a post in...ever...okay, maybe once...

I don't think that Peaches. I was responding to your avoidance and subject change and speaking further to your inadequacies.

You go around saying you don't pay your wifie, but you do. She entered the Houston market in a way that just enraged you hens. Personally, I like her; I think she's smart. She needed someone to sooth the Houston hobby beasts for her. You and WTF did that for her. Otherwise she wouldn't have started the thread about how handsome WTF is or talked you into (or let you think you got the idea) posting the hand holding thread of the Twenty-First Century to date.


Drinks with WTF
Drinks with You Daddy


The currency you paid her in was giving her an into and parting the water for her. You continue to pay with your shill threADS you run for her and other little things. It's sweet and sappy, but let's face it Fo'Realz, and we are being real here right? You pay. You pay, and you don't even know it, and that's what makes it so fucking sweet .

So to close: A whore is not a whore is not a whore. We know that's not how you feel or you wouldn't shill or "brag" about your wife not being your whore.

P.S, I actually don't believe you about the likie thingie.

[Wakeup]

Jaycee...the pocket psychiatrist thing turns me on...got any other diagnoses there honey?

Yep...OH is making no sense again...just like whores...