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08-05-2013, 07:29 PM
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You're all whores...call yourselves whatever synonym you want to...
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08-05-2013, 07:30 PM
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Just don't think that calling yourself something different makes you ACTUALLY different from any other whore on the planet...
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08-06-2013, 05:41 AM
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The courtesans of the 19th century actually had a great deal of money. Many of them lived more comfortable than the bourgoisie.
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For a while, yes. Many of them died dirt poor, though ... Specially when all they had was their courtesan money .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtesan
"A courtesan was originally a courtier, which means a person who attends the court of a monarch or other powerful person. The modern use of the term for a prostitute or mistress of a man of rank belies a much more complex heritage [...] Today, the term courtesan has become a euphemism to designate an escort or a prostitute, especially one who attracts wealthy clients."
I like to use original meanings of word for activities as they are meant to be. I don`t think nowadays courtesans do exist. For the simple reason that there are not many monarchs out there anymore . I think the overuse of words for activities that are out of the original meaning make the definition watery and useless. Maybe I am too strict ? So I tend to agree with Wakeup, although I would use different expression than he does..
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08-06-2013, 10:36 AM
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08-07-2013, 01:00 AM
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08-11-2013, 11:20 PM
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If the definition of cortesan is builder a deeper relationship with your friends and being selective, than I am right to describe myself as such.
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08-11-2013, 11:42 PM
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I think you get get only so far with the overall definitions and after that, it will have to down down to the people involved... I may call you an intimate partner, a sex therapist, a girlfriend, friend with benefits, a courtesan... it would depend on how our particular interactions went and our chemistry over time
Doubtful I'd ever call you a whore unless you told me to and it helped you have an orgasm ijs..
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08-12-2013, 09:16 AM
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Your post are always well written and insightful. I believe I have a few traits of all three types. If I had to include myself in just one category I think it would be GFE escort...
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08-12-2013, 01:00 PM
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08-12-2013, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NinaBrooke
I like to use original meanings of word for activities as they are meant to be. I don`t think nowadays courtesans do exist. For the simple reason that there are not many monarchs out there anymore . I think the overuse of words for activities that are out of the original meaning make the definition watery and useless. Maybe I am too strict ? So I tend to agree with Wakeup, although I would use different expression than he does..
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I agree with you. That age has come and gone. The word is highly overused, and the title is highly overrated.
All I'm saying is that charging more doesn't MAKE you a courtesan. Today, there are women that get paid top dollar for being JUST an hourly escort. All holes open, never leave the room, and you're out 2K.
Then there are women like myself who have an average price structure, but haven't done a 1-hour appointment in almost two years. Most of my second appointments are dinner dates or day-long excursions.
You can charge what you want and call yourself what you want. In such modern times, you'd think we would take more stock in being ourselves, and letting our presentation speak for itself.
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08-13-2013, 09:24 AM
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I would consider myself "Courtesan Like" I am very very selective about whom I see.... I will not see someone that I am not compatible with.... just doesnt make sense.... but everyone does what they need to make it... however... I agree with most of the people that has responded to this... it is just a name.... pick your attitude about it.... and how you run your business.... notice how I said YOUR business....
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09-08-2013, 08:25 AM
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I don't mean any disrespect, but all this talk about courtesans and high end girls seems a little like a load of bs. Sarafina's first post is well written, even if it contains mistakes, but its all opinion. I am new to the business, so I am still finding my feet. But whether I put a high class tag on myself on my website or ads, I know that its my personality that defines what a client perceives me as.
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09-08-2013, 09:42 AM
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I don't mean any disrespect, but all this talk about courtesans and high end girls seems a little like a load of bs. Sarafina's first post is well written, even if it contains mistakes, but its all opinion. I am new to the business, so I am still finding my feet. But whether I put a high class tag on myself on my website or ads, I know that its my personality that defines what a client perceives me as.
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In my eyes you´re absolutely right. I think that nowaydays there are not so many differences anymore. The differences lie in the marketing and advertising. In some areas - alternative lifestyle areas - it´s hip and political correct to call yourself a "slut" with a political agenda, and in others you´re a "whore" with negative connotations, while in others you`re a "sexworker" or whatever. I like the german expression "Freudenmädchen" for a sexworker. Freude means "joy" and "mädchen" means "girl, madame" . It‘s a female that brings joy to you. Is there a similar expression in english?
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09-08-2013, 10:51 AM
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I think so...
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In my eyes you´re absolutely right. I think that nowaydays there are not so many differences anymore.... Freude means "joy" and "mädchen" means "girl, madame" . It‘s a female that brings joy to you. Is there a similar expression in english?
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09-09-2013, 03:19 PM
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I am heavily disappointed in many of the responses to the OP. After all it is only a word to describe a certain type of experience. Personally I enjoy the word and agree with her assessment. The only difference in opinion would be that escorts could have alternative motives aside from money. There is the psychological overlay for a few cases. After all what would make you feel more beautiful or loved than a line of gentlemen (and I use this term loosely) ready to offer compliments and a donation?
If we were to assume, those that naysay, are correct, then we can generally sum up all people to be prostitutes. What is it you do to have monetary gain? You work. You are selling one part of your body or another. Be it your brain, hands, legs, or a combination of the above, you are selling yourself. Now that would put everyone in the same category and, logically, assimilate the assumptions above.
As I have said before I very much respect individuals choices, thoughts and beliefs. If you choose to believe a courtesan is a prostitute, a courtier, a slut, or a experience that is between GFE and Sugarbaby by all means. When I break down the definitions for my own personal use, I came up with this..........
Street walker- lowest class prostitute
General escort - higher caliber, usually more sexually aggressive. Tend to be high volume. More cost effective, yet more expensive than the street walker. Sexually they are amazing. They can ruin you for later girlfriends. The best part is, no commitment is desired on either side. You can return to her or move on to another with no hard feelings.
casino/hotel workers- risqué and the price can be painful and yet more available. Generally, they can range from completely new in the business to seasoned. (I have very little information in regards to these workers so if I left something out please bare with me)
PSE- These girls will work harder to put on a show for you than anyone else. Generally pricey and yet often said to be very worth it. However your are paying to be part of the show. They tend to be high volume.
GFE - Definition ranges but generally you will feel like she is yours and yours alone for the length of time you purchased. She may give you more of herself or perhaps put on a show of doing so. Her menu tends to be more open. Depending on the skill of the girl in question this is the most fickle and complicated of all definitions.
Courtesan- This is where I feel I fall. A courtesan will be up on politics. They inspire to entertain more than your body. You will not find them watching the clock. They do not pop out of bed and run when you are done. (generally neither does PSE but that is a different subject) A courtesan inspires respect and return respects you. They are often graceful, articulate, intelligent. I agree with the fact that they pursue a low volume lifestyle. Yes low volume is hard to describe. I could see the same suitor three times in a week for instance. Yet you will never see a rotation of different men like that at my door either. They pursue a select handful and maintain these relationships. Even when they are not with the gentlemen, they are likely to call and ask how he is doing.
Sugar baby - This would a bit more of a relationship. The woman in question does NOT sell her time. In fact she is often given a monthly allowance. You could see her for the whole weekend every weekend of the month. Perhaps more depending on the woman, perhaps less. The monetary assistance usually does not encompass the dates, gifts, shopping and travel that may occur. It is much like having a girlfriend without having to marry her or be monogamous to her. Most SB's are monogamous to her benefactor. Though not all.
Lastly The trophy wife - Yes she was purchased as well. The good news is you have a wife others would kill to sleep with. She maintains herself well (usually on your credit card) She can be socially capable or not depending on your selection. These girls are the sorts that have the benefit of never touching the depths of the sex industry. However they can be known to cheat on you.
These are the sum of my opinions. Obviously I left out a mass of detail to avoid a lengthy soliloquy instead of a simple return post. I do not judge those that feel courtesans, escorts and sugar baby's are all the same. It is their right to believe such. However, I do respect and admire Zabrina's definition, articulacy and intelligence on the subject.
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