Grandview and IHOP

[JS42]

Actually further "back in the day" it was originally a Ramada Inn and a pretty nice one. It's right on the border of Grandview and KC, very close to where the old Crest/71 Drive In use to be. That whole area, including Grandview has deteriorated pretty bad in the last 20 years. It's a shame because it use to be my old stomping grounds in my youth.

[Bubba]

JS42....I agree about Grandview. I played softball and indoor soccer in Grandview for many years. The hotel in question was a decent place. I stayed there as part of a New Year' Eve celebration many, many years ago.

Grandview has indeed gone downhill.....waaaaay downhill. Now the IHOP Church is buying up a lot of the commercial property and from what I understand, a lot of the houses. That could make Grandview's future even more suspect because as I understand it, they don't have to pay taxes!!

Grandview....not a place to be anymore!

Leilani.....Sorry to hear about your friend. Hopefully she will get off easy and learn a very valuable lesson as well.

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by Bubba

JS42....I agree about Grandview. I played softball and indoor soccer in Grandview for many years. The hotel in question was a decent place. I stayed there as part of a New Year' Eve celebration many, many years ago.

Grandview has indeed gone downhill.....waaaaay downhill. Now the IHOP Church is buying up a lot of the commercial property and from what I understand, a lot of the houses. That could make Grandview's future even more suspect because as I understand it, they don't have to pay taxes!!

Grandview....not a place to be anymore!

Leilani.....Sorry to hear about your friend. Hopefully she will get off easy and learn a very valuable lesson as well.

The city has made a conceious choice to let it decline. Truman corners has declined to the point that it has not reached blite status. To this end the City has been rewarded with 30 million in Tiff and grant money from the Federal Government. They will be tearing Truman corners down and rebuilding it. Because of this warchest they are not concerned with tax base revenue. I suspect they will in the future when the tiff money runs out. I hop has also been purchasing businesses and keeping the buisness open under their original name to keep the true ownership from the public eye. The city is going to be fucked when IHOP crumbles to the gound which all cults do eventually. Then 3/4 of Grandview businesses will be empty.

[CryptKicker]

Pancakes are a powerful thing! LOL

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by CryptKicker

Pancakes are a powerful thing! LOL

IHOP in grandview is not a pancake house it is a cult church Internaltional House of Prayer. When you become a member you have to sign your assets over to the church. They then provide you with living quarters, food and entertainment stipens.

[CryptKicker]

I'm aware of that sir...

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by dirty dog

IHOP in grandview is not a pancake house it is a cult church Internaltional House of Prayer. When you become a member you have to sign your assets over to the church. They then provide you with living quarters, food and entertainment stipens.

Thank you for expanding on who/what IHOP is. All I could think of was the pancake house and I was scratching my head thinking.....WTF??

Wow, sounds like a creepy cult alright.

Leilani hope your friend is OK!

[JS42]

Yeah, IHOP has a heavy presence in Grandview now. They have bought up alot of real estate there, including a whole strip shopping center located at Highgrove and 71 hwy. It's really sad if the reports of Truman Corners being torn down is true. Alot of history and memories for me clear back to when I was a toddler. I grew up in the Ruskin/Grandview area, and although Ruskin has always been alittle rough, it was never really dangerous like it is now. Grandview was a nice, clean, quiet, safe little town except for us highschoolers raising alittle hell and partying.

They tore down Bannister Mall a few years ago, and crime had alot to do with that. When people see the downward spiral of a whole community and nearby neighborhoods, "white flight" usually happens. Which is exactly what happened here. Those who choose to stay in the general area of KC moved to the suburbs on the outskirts of the city, like Blue Springs, Lees Summit, the Belton/Raymore area, and Peculiar. So mucho tax dollars has left this area without much of it being replaced.

The younger crowd may be surprised to hear that Grandview was a real nice place to live and it wasn't that long ago either. Hell, I'm really not that old (40s) the place just went downhill pretty fast.

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

Thank you for expanding on who/what IHOP is. All I could think of was the pancake house and I was scratching my head thinking.....WTF??

Wow, sounds like a creepy cult alright.

Leilani hope your friend is OK!

Your more than welcome

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by JS42

Yeah, IHOP has a heavy presence in Grandview now. They have bought up alot of real estate there, including a whole strip shopping center located at Highgrove and 71 hwy. It's really sad if the reports of Truman Corners being torn down is true. Alot of history and memories for me clear back to when I was a toddler. I grew up in the Ruskin/Grandview area, and although Ruskin has always been alittle rough, it was never really dangerous like it is now. Grandview was a nice, clean, quiet, safe little town except for us highschoolers raising alittle hell and partying.

They tore down Bannister Mall a few years ago, and crime had alot to do with that. When people see the downward spiral of a whole community and nearby neighborhoods, "white flight" usually happens. Which is exactly what happened here. Those who choose to stay in the general area of KC moved to the suburbs on the outskirts of the city, like Blue Springs, Lees Summit, the Belton/Raymore area, and Peculiar. So mucho tax dollars has left this area without much of it being replaced.

The younger crowd may be surprised to hear that Grandview was a real nice place to live and it wasn't that long ago either. Hell, I'm really not that old (40s) the place just went downhill pretty fast.

They also bought the patch of land along 71 hywy between Harry Truman drive and Blue Ridge there going to build their international headquarters there. JS did you graduate from Ruskin or Grandview.

[JS42]

I moved back and forth between Ruskin and Grandview quite a bit growing up. I graduated in Grandview, but know alot of Ruskin people from my era, especially those who went to Smith Hale.

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

Thank you for expanding on who/what IHOP is. All I could think of was the pancake house and I was scratching my head thinking.....WTF??

Wow, sounds like a creepy cult alright.

Leilani hope your friend is OK!

IHOP - The pancake people have the term "IHOP" registered as a trademark; they filed a lawsuit against the use of IHOP by the International house of prayer: and won. The church people can not use IHOP. The recent news story in the KC Star used the term IHOP to tell of the troubles of a murder plan by the cult. The reporters on the KC Star need to check the background of the terms they use. I wondered at the time if IHOP, the pancake people would sue the KC Star.

JR

[royamcr]

Would be better if there was an International House of Pussy. I'd join that.

[NoahScape]

Originally Posted by JS42

Yeah, IHOP has a heavy presence in Grandview now. They have bought up alot of real estate there, including a whole strip shopping center located at Highgrove and 71 hwy. It's really sad if the reports of Truman Corners being torn down is true. Alot of history and memories for me clear back to when I was a toddler. I grew up in the Ruskin/Grandview area, and although Ruskin has always been alittle rough, it was never really dangerous like it is now. Grandview was a nice, clean, quiet, safe little town except for us highschoolers raising alittle hell and partying.

They tore down Bannister Mall a few years ago, and crime had alot to do with that. When people see the downward spiral of a whole community and nearby neighborhoods, "white flight" usually happens. Which is exactly what happened here. Those who choose to stay in the general area of KC moved to the suburbs on the outskirts of the city, like Blue Springs, Lees Summit, the Belton/Raymore area, and Peculiar. So mucho tax dollars has left this area without much of it being replaced.

The younger crowd may be surprised to hear that Grandview was a real nice place to live and it wasn't that long ago either. Hell, I'm really not that old (40s) the place just went downhill pretty fast.

Yep.

Grandview/Belton/Ruskin Heights was never actively supported by the powers that be.

Back in the day, there were thousands of working-class people employed at the Bendix plant on Bannister and at Richards-Gebauer. And they lived in Grandview/Belton/Ruskin Heights.

When things changed, Grandview, et al was left out in the cold, and there was still no support from the powers that be. Now it's Section 8 housing and that I HOP outfit, and that's a shame. I think the only winner from the Richards-Gebauer closing was Hugh Zimmer.

Anyone here remember the Ruskin Heights Tornado? That was 1957, maybe 1958. F5 tornado that killed about 50 people, if I remember correctly.

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by NoahScape

Anyone here remember the Ruskin Heights Tornado? That was 1957, maybe 1958. F5 tornado that killed about 50 people, if I remember correctly.

I was too young to remember it...but my folks have detailed how it leveled the house we were living in at the time...

Thankfully we were visiting relatives elsewhere when it hit or this SHMB would most certainly be deprived..